Deihnyx.6318 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 I mean... it's the second extension. About time it gets a little more complicated right?It's still really easy if you take the time to understand the mechanics.I mean, I don't remember seeing complains like that for gw1 missions, and some of them were challenging as well. Why does everything need to be easy "because it's the story" today? None of you played old school difficult games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gungcho.7382 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Soloed on my Firebrand, had to move a bit, but the stun on axe 2 ( traited) and all the boons ( yes, boons) i had, made it quite easy :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hjorje.9453 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 The life steal is in an area, so use some movement skill to get away from him and he doesn't heal at all since your not in the area. I beat him easily this way and he never healed at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal Spiro.9745 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 So, this is a pain, but all you need is one power that does any CC and recharges fast enough. Don't worry about DPS. Just keep hitting it and as soon as you see the break bar CC. It will never heal itself and you'll win. Easy peasy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chills.6802 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 @Exsul.5803 said:Completed him as a Scourge:No Pets outRun around the bossAs soon as his bar turns blue hit him with Torch 5 skill to stun himDPSAbout the time Torch 5 resets, his bar will turn blue againRepeat stunIf you miss and he starts draining you, double dodge away to reduce how much he drainsTook me several tries to get the timing right and this was not fun. Also, after I finally downed him I DC'd from server so had to do it again.This helped me tremendously. Thank you very much for this. Also thank you for not just saying "git gud", those people need to "git gud" at social skills and empathy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theandil.6045 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 I do not know what people talks here. I end up at boss and under 20sec he was down. After fight I was um, so easy...d/p thief here - Headshot skill for the win ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralBabyPuncher.9058 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 I'm going to have to try this with a different class and see how it goes. My fight lasted maybe 30 seconds on my scourge. I actually thought that there was another boss after that and that was what everyone was talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supa suop.8026 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 I defeated this guy in about 7 mins on thief ,Deadeye spec, and on my first try too. I just used the standing rifle skill 4(death's retreat) to kite him and just kept on moving making sure I kept my distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta II.6750 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Being a shortbow/double dagger ranger I found it essentially impossible to beat him in a "fair" fight... No CC skills, couldn't change my weapons. Such a shame because I wanted it to be as entertaining as the earlier Balthazar fight, lots of dodging and stuff.All I could do is get him "stuck" around the cage (he wasn't stuck, just "confused"), quickly run to the other side of it, and let my pet attack him. Weirdly enough he wouldn't run to me, just stood there. Took less than 10 minutes. I just wish every class and every build was able to solo that boss... this isn't challenging, this is too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merendel.7128 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Condi rev here. He killed me once because I didnt recognize the tell on something nasty the first time I saw it. After that he more or less melted. Didnt let him hit me with that jump attack on round 2 and the piles of torment and burning I apply fried him in fairly short order. I may have lucked out and broke his breakbear useing darkrazor's daring on him on CD as I never even noticed the drain. That said agressiveness seems to be the key. I'm noticing alot of people complaining about the fight that say they are runing vit and toughness. That isnt the way to attrition a regenerating fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AricanaRainbow.7145 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Summary/TL;DRThe story line is awesome. Loving the story, it's actually pretty darn amazing, the fake mythology is well written, interesting, and intriguing. Over the years, the GW2 back story has gotten me interested, and I congratulate the story people at ANet for doing this up really well. Kudos. Boss fights are meh for low DPS.The fighting is too sloggy for PCs that don't have high DPS. Definitely not fun. Big turn off is too much hack and slash - this doesn't make story, it's action oriented. In itself, that's not bad, but there's too much for lower DPS PCs (as stated before here and other people).I was starting to figure out the fight mechanics but I'd already dealt with B-dude, and the fight's dodge or die mechanics - which gets tiresome and you just know you won't beat him, it's the 3rd act and the second time you fight him. Why? This part makes no sense to the story. He just appears for no apparent reason. There's clues, but very subtle.Professions like engineer, mesmer, elementalist, i.e., all the low DPS ones, just aren't good enough DPS-wise to get through fights like these to be entertaining, to me. The class skew is just meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valreth.1309 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Mesmer here. Took me a couple hours of messing with builds and such, but I succeeded. I'm a casual player (and not very good), with an ascended armor set with only a couple of runes equipped. Weapons are exotics. At first I was running Mirage with Axe/Torch & Scepter/Pistol. I was doing well, got him to about half health, then I saw he was absorbing /all/ of my clones even when I was doing just fine avoiding the life steal tether. As others have mentioned, absorbing the clones puts the boss back to full health. I still rolled with a condition build so that I was still applying damage even while I was running around and avoiding his attacks. Not once was I in danger of dying either. Hardly had to heal - only did it to top off my health in case I slipped up.Here's what I ended up doing to finally beat it. It took me about 15-20 minutes of widdling him down. Patience is key with this one.Noob Condi MirageAvoid using skills that create clones. (I realize this is easier said than done considering EVERY Mesmer weapon has 1-2 skills that create clones/illusions).Weapons Used: Axe/Pistol & Axe/TorchSkills used: Axe 1&3, Pistol 5, Torch 4Utility Skills: Crystal Sands, Signet of Inspiration (for swiftness as Mirage doesn't have faster movement like Chrono had), Signet of Domination, Jaunt. I used Ether signet for heals, but considering I was avoiding creating clones, a different heal skill is probably better.Traits (Anything that I thought was remotely useful, applied conditions, and didn't risk creating clones)Domination: Confounding Suggestions, Furious Interruption, Power Block. Chaos: Descent Into Madness, Chaotic Dampening, Prismatic UnderstandingMirage: Renewing Oasis, Mirrored Axes, Elusive MindTacticAttack in melee, using skills mentioned above. Use Torch 4 to apply burning DoT, attack with Axe 1&3, and Pistol 5 until he prepares to leap at you for health siphon.*When boss does leap with AOE circle on ground, dodge away twice in a rowWhen boss is still at range and just finishes his larger ground-smash-type AOE, place Crystal Sands in his pathRepeat as necessary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amethyst Lure.5624 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 I thought I'd add to this thread as well as it was really quite frustrating the first 5 or so deaths on my sword/dagger Weaver. However, really all you need to do is have a way to quickly get away from him after he uses his leap, and have no pet or summon near him after the leap. I did not waste time trying to CC anything, instead I saved my dodges for just after his leap, just use them as you move away or use a mobility skill or an invuln skill. Once i realized this I downed him on the first try. Note the skills are not required, dodges work but they make it easier.Likely, using CC can further make it easier, but for weaver, it is pretty difficult to be reactive with CC and also deal a lot of damage at the same time, AND keep your hp up. So I decided to cut the Cc bit out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverstone.4539 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Yip too hard, needs a fix. only way is to cheese him with a long range weapon i found Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asum.4960 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Either this guy got absolutely gutted with nerfs, or the skill discrepancy between players in this game is even more mindblowing than I thought.While I thought story fights in the past like Caudecus or Lazarus were an absolute walk in the park, I at least could see how extremely casual players could have a problem with them (aka they had any form of mechanic). This guy though dropped in about 20 seconds on my first try without cheese, not knowing any of his mechanics and I still don't.One of my big complaints with Story bosses is always that they are so easy, I would have to extremely hold back on purpose just to see their mechanics, meanwhile other players call them "literally unbeatable". Now I'm not saying this with the intent of oh look at me, I'm awesome, I'm genuinely curious how the same fight can be so easy it's underwhelming for some players, and sheer impossible for others, considering you can't mess up characters in GW2 like in some hard core ARPG's, where content becomes unbeatable and there is next to no respec. On the other hand, comments like "This boss can't be beaten with low damage classes like Elementalist", a class which has been the absolute uncontested king of DPS since years, might be telling. Maybe, "I can't beat this boss with this Stat set and quality of gear and this build, how can I improve?" would be a better approach than "This is literally unbeatable, nerf it!". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clark.5839 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Yay! So I read through the comments explaining the mechanics of the fight, and tried the instance again. Killed the Eater of Souls in less than 2 minutes. Maybe he was nerfed (I think he was), but I don't care. Just glad I knew what as going on this time around. Yay! Thanks everyone for your tips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korval.3751 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 @Nissa Shannar.6904 said:Is this a joke ?? I mean this post, I killed him with my thief full berserk @11k hp, without single death in about 15 minutes? I didnt even pay atention, wasnt a challenge at all.Cmon, dont nerf everything coz kids cant play class properly, for god sake :(Congrats. Now play something that will challenge you, like Dark Souls. Clearly, GW2 is too carebears easy for your elitist skills that us mere mortals can never hope to achieve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelzrael.8142 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 I am so furious right now. You spend two hours in this instance to come to a boss you literally cannot even get below 80%. Why is this in the story mode? Is this a raid? Am I a hardcore raider now? Who is this story mode for? The top 1% of players that can beat it? I am ready for a refund. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korval.3751 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 So I can confirm that range DPS with lots of CC and speed boost running around Joko's cage to "hook" the Eater is the easiest way to get this done. Sometimes the Eater just pauses like its AI "Can't Even." Enough time to hit it with a 5-6 freebie shots. Here's a breakdown of my stats for any other Guardians:Berserker set with 6/6 Superior Rune of the ScholarLongbow w/ Superior Sigil of Accuracy and Force2x Accended Earrings (110 power, 56 precision, 18 vitality, 74 ferocity)2x Ascended Rings (126 power, 85 precision, 85 ferocity)Ascended Amulet (157 power, 108 precision, 108 ferocity)Healing: Signet of ResolveUtilities: Retreat, Save Yourselves, Fragments of FaithElite: Feel My WrathHope this helps! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AricanaRainbow.7145 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Summary/TL;DRThe story line is awesome. Loving the story, it's actually pretty darn amazing, the fake mythology is well written, interesting, and intriguing. Over the years, the GW2 back story has gotten me interested, and I congratulate the story people at ANet for doing this up really well. Kudos. Boss fights are meh for low DPS.The fighting is too sloggy for PCs that don't have high DPS. Definitely not fun. Big turn off is too much hack and slash - this doesn't make story, it's action oriented. In itself, that's not bad, but there's too much for lower DPS PCs (as stated before here and other people).I was starting to figure out the fight mechanics but I'd already dealt with B-dude, and the fight's dodge or die mechanics - which gets tiresome and you just know you won't beat him, it's the 3rd act and the second time you fight him. Why? This part makes no sense to the story. He just appears for no apparent reason. There's clues, but very subtle.Professions like engineer, mesmer, elementalist, i.e., all the low DPS ones, just aren't good enough DPS-wise to get through fights like these to be entertaining, to me. The class skew is just meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FXLEACH.9436 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 I killed him in 1min 20 seconds as a glass chrono. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inazuma.2795 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 It's actually quite easy, just walk away so he doesn't heal off of you if you can't stun him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinklin.5724 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 as a necro/reaper I ended up hiding just out of range while my minions killed it. I couldn't get enough cc on him, and not having the ability to switch to staff I had basically zero ranged abilities. I've never thought an encounter was so unfairly designed in any game before this fight. fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameepa.6793 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 I just ran in circles kiting and shooting him, dodging when he did his beam thingie and CC when he started to cast the heal. Repeat for ~10 mins and it's done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedlee.5943 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 I didnt have a lot of trouble as a power herald with sword/axe and staff. Granted, at first I got confused as he kept healing himself to the full health. So I ran away and looked at his description, which said something about boons so I took mallyx, kept boon stripping him and meleeed him to death. Looking at the thread apparent I was very wrong and it was staff CC I did without much tought that prevented his life stealing XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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