sokeenoppa.5384 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Any1 tested grieving stats on reaper?Could it Be better than Viper Gear?Im thinking about Power/hybrid reaper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyel.1843 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Why don't you just try it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sokeenoppa.5384 Posted September 24, 2017 Author Share Posted September 24, 2017 Oh sorry for that, im thinking a pve fights, and i dont own griever Set :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onerios.4962 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 For pve condition scourge, you need mostly vipers gear in order to get sufficient condition duration, reaper has a bit more flexibility since it can run krait runes to cap duration. For the slots where you don't need vipers grieving is a possibility, however it is having to compete with sinister pieces, and as far as I'm aware with the condition/physical split of the standard reaper rotation the extra condi damage from sinister (and more bleed procs from the extra crit chance) outweighs the extra power and ferocity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drarnor Kunoram.5180 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 I can see Grieving being very good for hybrid Reaper. Maybe something like a standard Reaper Power build, but with Dhuumfire instead of Death Perception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sokeenoppa.5384 Posted September 24, 2017 Author Share Posted September 24, 2017 Yes. That is something i have been thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobias.8632 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Griever is only good if you can cap condi duration without expertiese. Try it with krait runes and sigil of agony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oslaf Beinir.5842 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 This person made a vid recently. worth a sub imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEGATRON.2904 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 @Onerios.4962 said:For pve condition scourge, you need mostly vipers gear in order to get sufficient condition duration, reaper has a bit more flexibility since it can run krait runes to cap duration. For the slots where you don't need vipers grieving is a possibility, however it is having to compete with sinister pieces, and as far as I'm aware with the condition/physical split of the standard reaper rotation the extra condi damage from sinister (and more bleed procs from the extra crit chance) outweighs the extra power and ferocity.Crit chance won't matter with a reaper, they cap 100% crit chance easily with the vulnerability stacks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aetatis.5418 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 lets put it simple. you lose 25% total damage. and you triple your condition-damage. which is about 5% of total dmg with full zerker stats.so net loss = 10% dmgnot accurate numbers, but give you an expression how grievers performs like.this is for pve-perfomrance thoedit: after watching the yt-link, i havent been considering using septer-dagger. i just used the normal axe/horn - GS build with as many condition traits that fit into the most effective power build.i am impressed, that the numbers are actually absolutely equal on reaper ... on holo this doesnt work unfortunately (it is like i described it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egrimm Van Horstmann.7921 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Grieving may work for support Necro in raids where the healing and barrier will really shine, as for regular roaming Viper is just better. You don't need a lot of healing, and Condi Damage is just downright mean. For higher survivability and damage Trailblazer will turn you into an unstoppable killing machine. There's a reason black diamond's are over one gold a piece, they increased by more than double in value since pre PoF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aetatis.5418 Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 @Egrimm Van Horstmann.7921 said:Grieving may work for support Necro in raids where the healing and barrier will really shine, as for regular roaming Viper is just better. You don't need a lot of healing, and Condi Damage is just downright mean. For higher survivability and damage Trailblazer will turn you into an unstoppable killing machine. There's a reason black diamond's are over one gold a piece, they increased by more than double in value since pre PoF.dont get me wrong dude, but i assume you think about the rong stats here. grieving is power, precision, ferocity, condition damage.no healing involved :)cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egrimm Van Horstmann.7921 Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 Yea your right I was thinking Marshal's initially, will say that Ferocity isn't as beneficial as expertise when you're talking condi since expertise is overall condi damage increase vs extra damage on a crit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEGATRON.2904 Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 @Egrimm Van Horstmann.7921 said:Yea your right I was thinking Marshal's initially, will say that Ferocity isn't as beneficial as expertise when you're talking condi since expertise is overall condi damage increase vs extra damage on a crit.Yes, however there are other options to make up the lost expertise...krait runes, agony sigil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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