Please add more ways to obtain Black Lion Statuettes.

Scratchpaw.1069 · October 22, 2020

@Ayrilana.1396 said:
@Ototo.3214 said:
@Ayrilana.1396 said:
@Ototo.3214 said:
@kharmin.7683 said:What's in it for Anet to make this change? Sure, we all want easier access to things in GW2, but the current model earns the company profit. How would this change benefit Anet?

Adding an item for sale in a region where you can't buy keys means more people buying an item that didn't previously exist for people in that region.

And then people in the other regions that are able to buy keys will then request that item to be made buyable in their regions as well.

Not if it's roughly the same price as a key. You technically can already buy statuettes by simply buying keys. You are guaranteed 1 statuette per key. Why is that so hard to understand?

So you’re saying that those who want the option to buy statuettes would accept buying them at the cost of a key?

If you think that is fair. Remember tho of an argument I made earlier that anti-lootbox region only gets the statuette, not the 3 chances of rng items compared to buying a key. So it would be rather logical to offer statuettes at a slightly lower price compared to keys. Quite frankly, I don't really care of their pricing point, I just want to be able to get statuettes... Seems to be a very hard point to understand for some.

Ayrilana.1396 · October 22, 2020

So if statuettes are added at the same cost as keys for those regions, they have zero rights to complain about the costs to acquire the items with the statuettes then. They cannot request a lower cost for statuettes nor can they request items to require less statuettes.

Ototo.3214 · October 22, 2020

@Scratchpaw.1069 said:
@Ayrilana.1396 said:
@Ototo.3214 said:
@Ayrilana.1396 said:
@Ototo.3214 said:
@kharmin.7683 said:What's in it for Anet to make this change? Sure, we all want easier access to things in GW2, but the current model earns the company profit. How would this change benefit Anet?

Adding an item for sale in a region where you can't buy keys means more people buying an item that didn't previously exist for people in that region.

And then people in the other regions that are able to buy keys will then request that item to be made buyable in their regions as well.

Not if it's roughly the same price as a key. You technically can already buy statuettes by simply buying keys. You are guaranteed 1 statuette per key. Why is that so hard to understand?

So you’re saying that those who want the option to buy statuettes would accept buying them at the cost of a key?

If you think that is fair. Remember tho of an argument I made earlier that anti-lootbox region only gets the statuette, not the 3 chances of rng items compared to buying a key. So it would be rather logical to offer statuettes at a slightly lower price compared to keys. Quite frankly, I don't really care of their pricing point, I just want to be able to get statuettes... Seems to be a very hard point to understand for some.

Maybe it could come with the seasonal item too. Technically there are only 2 rng spots of the 4 guaranteed items out of the chest, with a chance at a bonus slot. Maybe make it come with the statuette + the seasonal material bag or whatever it is at the time.

Ototo.3214 · October 22, 2020

@Ayrilana.1396 said:So if statuettes are added at the same cost as keys for those regions, they have zero rights to complain about the costs to acquire the items with the statuettes then. They cannot request a lower cost for statuettes nor can they request items to require less statuettes.

Unless they also made statuettes purchasable in all regions for cheaper than a key, than sure I guess.

Ayrilana.1396 · October 22, 2020

@Ototo.3214 said:
@Ayrilana.1396 said:So if statuettes are added at the same cost as keys for those regions, they have zero rights to complain about the costs to acquire the items with the statuettes then. They cannot request a lower cost for statuettes nor can they request items to require less statuettes.

Unless they also made statuettes purchasable in all regions for cheaper than a key, than sure I guess.

Which would devalue keys. It may also cause Anet to earn less as well.

Ototo.3214 · October 22, 2020

@Ayrilana.1396 said:
@Ototo.3214 said:
@Ayrilana.1396 said:So if statuettes are added at the same cost as keys for those regions, they have zero rights to complain about the costs to acquire the items with the statuettes then. They cannot request a lower cost for statuettes nor can they request items to require less statuettes.

Unless they also made statuettes purchasable in all regions for cheaper than a key, than sure I guess.

Which would devalue keys.

Kind of. Any time I've bought keys, it wasn't really for the statuettes. And what I said was more meant to point out that they could only be cheaper if that happened.

Scratchpaw.1069 · October 22, 2020

@Ayrilana.1396 said:
@Ototo.3214 said:
@Ayrilana.1396 said:So if statuettes are added at the same cost as keys for those regions, they have zero rights to complain about the costs to acquire the items with the statuettes then. They cannot request a lower cost for statuettes nor can they request items to require less statuettes.

Unless they also made statuettes purchasable in all regions for cheaper than a key, than sure I guess.

Which would devalue keys. It may also cause Anet to earn less as well.

This discussion really is going in circles. Ample arguments have been made against this. I suggest you to reread through earlier comments as this has already been discussed.

kharmin.7683 · October 22, 2020

@Ayrilana.1396 said:
@Ototo.3214 said:
@Ayrilana.1396 said:So if statuettes are added at the same cost as keys for those regions, they have zero rights to complain about the costs to acquire the items with the statuettes then. They cannot request a lower cost for statuettes nor can they request items to require less statuettes.

Unless they also made statuettes purchasable in all regions for cheaper than a key, than sure I guess.

Which would devalue keys. It may also cause Anet to earn less as well.

Been trying to make that point, but perhaps you're more succinct than I.

Ayrilana.1396 · October 22, 2020

@Scratchpaw.1069 said:
@Ayrilana.1396 said:
@Ototo.3214 said:
@Ayrilana.1396 said:So if statuettes are added at the same cost as keys for those regions, they have zero rights to complain about the costs to acquire the items with the statuettes then. They cannot request a lower cost for statuettes nor can they request items to require less statuettes.

Unless they also made statuettes purchasable in all regions for cheaper than a key, than sure I guess.

Which would devalue keys. It may also cause Anet to earn less as well.

This discussion really is going in circles. Ample arguments have been made against this. I suggest you to reread through earlier comments as this has already been discussed.

And ample arguments have been made against your assertion. Yes, I have read earlier comments and disagree with them.

Scratchpaw.1069 · October 22, 2020

@Ayrilana.1396 said:
@Scratchpaw.1069 said:
@Ayrilana.1396 said:
@Ototo.3214 said:
@Ayrilana.1396 said:So if statuettes are added at the same cost as keys for those regions, they have zero rights to complain about the costs to acquire the items with the statuettes then. They cannot request a lower cost for statuettes nor can they request items to require less statuettes.

Unless they also made statuettes purchasable in all regions for cheaper than a key, than sure I guess.

Which would devalue keys. It may also cause Anet to earn less as well.

This discussion really is going in circles. Ample arguments have been made against this. I suggest you to reread through earlier comments as this has already been discussed.

And ample arguments have been made against your assertion. Yes, I have read earlier comments and disagree with them.

And you may disagree with it all that you want. Doesn't change the fact that in the CURRENT situation players in anti-lootbox regions, who want items from a Black Lion Merchant bought with statuettes, are at a huge disadvantage.

Ayrilana.1396 · October 22, 2020

@Scratchpaw.1069 said:
@Ayrilana.1396 said:
@Scratchpaw.1069 said:
@Ayrilana.1396 said:
@Ototo.3214 said:
@Ayrilana.1396 said:So if statuettes are added at the same cost as keys for those regions, they have zero rights to complain about the costs to acquire the items with the statuettes then. They cannot request a lower cost for statuettes nor can they request items to require less statuettes.

Unless they also made statuettes purchasable in all regions for cheaper than a key, than sure I guess.

Which would devalue keys. It may also cause Anet to earn less as well.

This discussion really is going in circles. Ample arguments have been made against this. I suggest you to reread through earlier comments as this has already been discussed.

And ample arguments have been made against your assertion. Yes, I have read earlier comments and disagree with them.

And you may disagree with it all that you want. Doesn't change the fact that in the CURRENT situation players in anti-lootbox regions, who want items from a Black Lion Merchant bought with statuettes, are at a huge disadvantage.

VPN or appeal to your government about it. Unless the statuettes are sold at the same price as keys, there will be issues.

Scratchpaw.1069 · October 22, 2020

@Ayrilana.1396 said:
@Scratchpaw.1069 said:
@Ayrilana.1396 said:
@Scratchpaw.1069 said:
@Ayrilana.1396 said:
@Ototo.3214 said:
@Ayrilana.1396 said:So if statuettes are added at the same cost as keys for those regions, they have zero rights to complain about the costs to acquire the items with the statuettes then. They cannot request a lower cost for statuettes nor can they request items to require less statuettes.

Unless they also made statuettes purchasable in all regions for cheaper than a key, than sure I guess.

Which would devalue keys. It may also cause Anet to earn less as well.

This discussion really is going in circles. Ample arguments have been made against this. I suggest you to reread through earlier comments as this has already been discussed.

And ample arguments have been made against your assertion. Yes, I have read earlier comments and disagree with them.

And you may disagree with it all that you want. Doesn't change the fact that in the CURRENT situation players in anti-lootbox regions, who want items from a Black Lion Merchant bought with statuettes, are at a huge disadvantage.

VPN or appeal to your government about it. Unless the statuettes are sold at the same price as keys, there will be issues.

You don't know that for certain. And I find most arguments for to outweigh the arguments against that opinion.

kharmin.7683 · October 22, 2020

What "disadvantage"? Items are purely cosmetic.

Scratchpaw.1069 · October 22, 2020

@"kharmin.7683" said:What "disadvantage"? Items are purely cosmetic.

For one, I find this question trying to take the whole discussion off-topic and away from the essence why I started this thread. But to answer your question; that merchant also sells revive orbs in exchange for statuettes, which can be considered a very advantageous item.

Ayrilana.1396 · October 22, 2020

@Scratchpaw.1069 said:
@Ayrilana.1396 said:
@Scratchpaw.1069 said:
@Ayrilana.1396 said:
@Scratchpaw.1069 said:
@Ayrilana.1396 said:
@Ototo.3214 said:
@Ayrilana.1396 said:So if statuettes are added at the same cost as keys for those regions, they have zero rights to complain about the costs to acquire the items with the statuettes then. They cannot request a lower cost for statuettes nor can they request items to require less statuettes.

Unless they also made statuettes purchasable in all regions for cheaper than a key, than sure I guess.

Which would devalue keys. It may also cause Anet to earn less as well.

This discussion really is going in circles. Ample arguments have been made against this. I suggest you to reread through earlier comments as this has already been discussed.

And ample arguments have been made against your assertion. Yes, I have read earlier comments and disagree with them.

And you may disagree with it all that you want. Doesn't change the fact that in the CURRENT situation players in anti-lootbox regions, who want items from a Black Lion Merchant bought with statuettes, are at a huge disadvantage.

VPN or appeal to your government about it. Unless the statuettes are sold at the same price as keys, there will be issues.

You don't know that for certain. And I find most arguments for to outweigh the arguments against that opinion.

I’m 95% certain. The second those regions are able to buy statuettes directly at a lower cost, there will be complaints on the forums and reddit from all the other regions about wanting that option as well.

Scratchpaw.1069 · October 22, 2020

@Ayrilana.1396 said:
@Scratchpaw.1069 said:
@Ayrilana.1396 said:
@Scratchpaw.1069 said:
@Ayrilana.1396 said:
@Scratchpaw.1069 said:
@Ayrilana.1396 said:
@Ototo.3214 said:
@Ayrilana.1396 said:So if statuettes are added at the same cost as keys for those regions, they have zero rights to complain about the costs to acquire the items with the statuettes then. They cannot request a lower cost for statuettes nor can they request items to require less statuettes.