ADD CORE ONLY SOLOQ

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it will be nothing but S/D thieves, same warrior build with no FC, hammer guards and FA ele.

i would rather play that

Sorry all this talk of solo q, team q, vanilla q, none of it would work. There is no population for any of this.

i know that they will never do what players are asking. its anet. i am just bored.

@Razor.6392 said:it will be nothing but S/D thieves, same warrior build with no FC, hammer guards and FA ele.

Actually core d/p is pretty fun. I play it atm in plat despite the scourge/fb/mirage/sb plague.I can also see some crazy engi builds in there (have faced some hipsters in the ranked before, they did pretty well).

That would be fun.

Just buy the expansions support the game you f2p players...

@Genesis.5169 said:Just buy the expansions support the game you f2p players...

I have PoF, I want a way to get away from it...

Worst idea ever, you'd get some 30 / 60 min queue per party ...

@Genesis.5169 said:Just buy the expansions support the game you f2p players...

i bought this game 2 weeks after release back in 2012, and yes i am not buying expansions because i think they made pvp worse with overtuned elite specs made for potato players. i have no interest in supporting something i dont like.

Core-only would have sjitty balance issues as well.

It's the beginning of a good idea. We need them to bring back Flux effects where you get bonuses for playing a certain way.

People would just roflstomp you guys even with core. Does it actually matter at this point? You are still going to get the classes that dominant.

Core WarCore ThiefCore Guard

Those are the three you would fight against on every team and you will STILL qq. This will change nothing.

@Genesis.5169 said:Just buy the expansions support the game you f2p players...

I own both expansions .. and HoT on my alt account. I'd much prefer core pvp. Beside that, F2P players can't post here.

@Genesis.5169 said:Just buy the expansions support the game you f2p players...

worse advice u can give any gamer ever.

the expansions ruined a fuckton of things. espically PoF. Hot finnally started going from garbage to ''meh'' and pof completely set us back at beta phase pvp.

@Razor.6392 said:it will be nothing but S/D thieves, same warrior build with no FC, hammer guards and FA ele.

Core-only Whitelist?

Banned Skills

• No elites allowed (leave the skill slot empty).
• No more than one source of stability allowed per build (across traits and skills); multiple instances allowed if one or more of the instances only grants 1 stack of stability for 1s.
• Shelter
• Flamethrower Kit
• Signet of Stone
• Arcane Blast
• Arcane Wave
• "Protect Me!"

Banned Traits

• No procs which can apply burning (exceptions: Evasive Arcana; Elemental Surge)
• No procs which inflict their own packet of damage (exceptions: minor traits)
• No procs which activate when the player is stunned/disabled.
• Soothing Ice
• Fresh Air
• Duelist's Discipline
• Malicious Sorcery
• Maim the Disillusioned
• Confounding Suggestions
• Imagined Burden
• Juggernaut
• HGH
• Self-Regulating Defenses
• Burning Arrows
• Dogged March
• Chill of Death
• Beastly Warden

Banned Amulets

• Celestial
• Mender

Banned Weapons

• Warrior - Shield
• Mesmer - Torch
• Elementalist - Focus

Banned Classes

• Thief
• Revenant

Bam, video games.

@Ithilwen.1529 said:

@Genesis.5169 said:Just buy the expansions support the game you f2p players...

Core PvP will be even more squed than what we currently have. It may have been good pre HoT, but things have changed dramatically since then.

@Swagg.9236 said:

@Razor.6392 said:it will be nothing but S/D thieves, same warrior build with no FC, hammer guards and FA ele.

• No elites allowed (leave the skill slot empty).
• No more than one source of stability allowed per build (across traits and skills); multiple instances allowed if one or more of the instances only grants 1 stack of stability for 1s.
• Shelter
• Flamethrower Kit
• Signet of Stone
• Arcane Blast
• Arcane Wave
• "Protect Me!"

• No procs which can apply burning (exceptions: Evasive Arcana; Elemental Surge)
• No procs which inflict their own packet of damage (exceptions: minor traits)
• No procs which activate when the player is stunned/disabled.
• Soothing Ice
• Fresh Air
• Duelist's Discipline
• Malicious Sorcery
• Maim the Disillusioned
• Confounding Suggestions
• Imagined Burden
• Juggernaut
• HGH
• Self-Regulating Defenses
• Burning Arrows
• Dogged March
• Chill of Death
• Beastly Warden

• Celestial
• Mender

• Warrior - Shield
• Mesmer - Torch
• Elementalist - Focus

• Thief
• Revenant

I hoped to god you are not serious with that. This is probably the worse case of safe box syndrome I've ever seen.

You basically made the most boring PVP in actual existence and put the game on training wheels.

@Lilyanna.9361 said:

@Swagg.9236 said:

@Razor.6392 said:it will be nothing but S/D thieves, same warrior build with no FC, hammer guards and FA ele.

• No elites allowed (leave the skill slot empty).
• No more than one source of stability allowed per build (across traits and skills); multiple instances allowed if one or more of the instances only grants 1 stack of stability for 1s.
• Shelter
• Flamethrower Kit
• Signet of Stone
• Arcane Blast
• Arcane Wave
• "Protect Me!"

• No procs which can apply burning (exceptions: Evasive Arcana; Elemental Surge)
• No procs which inflict their own packet of damage (exceptions: minor traits)
• No procs which activate when the player is stunned/disabled.
• Soothing Ice
• Fresh Air
• Duelist's Discipline
• Malicious Sorcery
• Maim the Disillusioned
• Confounding Suggestions
• Imagined Burden
• Juggernaut
• HGH
• Self-Regulating Defenses
• Burning Arrows
• Dogged March
• Chill of Death
• Beastly Warden

• Celestial
• Mender

• Warrior - Shield
• Mesmer - Torch
• Elementalist - Focus

• Thief
• Revenant

It's kind of startling that people think "safe-box" is a game without passive procs, teleport spam, on-demand invulnerability and un-telegraphed attacks. My dude, plenty of games thrive just fine using damage sources that people can see clearly.

@Swagg.9236 said:

@Lilyanna.9361 said:

@Swagg.9236 said:

@Razor.6392 said:it will be nothing but S/D thieves, same warrior build with no FC, hammer guards and FA ele.

• No elites allowed (leave the skill slot empty).
• No more than one source of stability allowed per build (across traits and skills); multiple instances allowed if one or more of the instances only grants 1 stack of stability for 1s.
• Shelter
• Flamethrower Kit
• Signet of Stone
• Arcane Blast
• Arcane Wave
• "Protect Me!"

• No procs which can apply burning (exceptions: Evasive Arcana; Elemental Surge)
• No procs which inflict their own packet of damage (exceptions: minor traits)
• No procs which activate when the player is stunned/disabled.
• Soothing Ice
• Fresh Air
• Duelist's Discipline
• Malicious Sorcery
• Maim the Disillusioned
• Confounding Suggestions
• Imagined Burden
• Juggernaut
• HGH
• Self-Regulating Defenses
• Burning Arrows
• Dogged March
• Chill of Death
• Beastly Warden

• Celestial
• Mender

• Warrior - Shield
• Mesmer - Torch
• Elementalist - Focus

• Thief
• Revenant

That is literally like taking a fighting game and then cutting out almost half of the characters and expect people to play the game.

Amulet: Getting rid of Menders? Weak Celestial? You already have been discredited by having problems with probably one of the weakest amulets.

Weapons: Funny how you find these weapons to be a problem? Getting rid of focus on Ele? Oh, I see you want to make it pop like a cherry. I see no survivability, very nice.

Banned Classes: Taking content out of the game LOL. Get out, you don't even deserve to make suggestions like this. Every single Dev would laugh at you.

Don't make video games, you'd lose business with one of the most weak PVP scenes.

Edit: No elites. Let me just copy and paste this post on my guild Skype and discord so they can get a roll tonight.

@Swagg.9236 said:

@Razor.6392 said:it will be nothing but S/D thieves, same warrior build with no FC, hammer guards and FA ele.

• No elites allowed (leave the skill slot empty).
• No more than one source of stability allowed per build (across traits and skills); multiple instances allowed if one or more of the instances only grants 1 stack of stability for 1s.
• Shelter
• Flamethrower Kit
• Signet of Stone
• Arcane Blast
• Arcane Wave
• "Protect Me!"

• No procs which can apply burning (exceptions: Evasive Arcana; Elemental Surge)
• No procs which inflict their own packet of damage (exceptions: minor traits)
• No procs which activate when the player is stunned/disabled.
• Soothing Ice
• Fresh Air
• Duelist's Discipline
• Malicious Sorcery
• Maim the Disillusioned
• Confounding Suggestions
• Imagined Burden
• Juggernaut
• HGH
• Self-Regulating Defenses
• Burning Arrows
• Dogged March
• Chill of Death
• Beastly Warden

• Celestial
• Mender

• Warrior - Shield
• Mesmer - Torch
• Elementalist - Focus

• Thief
• Revenant

Necro main asking to remove thief. Thanks for good laugh.

Pvp was super fun up until early summer 2015 and went downhill onwards. I actually took a long break after HoT was released and decided to return with PoF but now ready to take a break again.

Uhm... at least with core there wouldn't be so many situations when everyone is dope and buffed. Currently we have a lot of stuff flying around where most classes are capable of doing multiple things at once, or are full of shenanigans.For example, notice that hammer guard is not mobile and doesn't have sustained healing or any gimmicky mechanics like passive invulnerability (2k heal from medi is burst healing, not sustained healing FYI). Not to mention a lack of strong defenses apart from 2 seconds of protection from hammer, ring of warding and shield of wrath.I strongly believe that introducing elite specs was practially the main reason why it all went down and ESL dropped GW2. It was just too much of everything at once.Why I think that? Because I've never really encountered that much salt and toxicity before HoT. I enjoyed PvP back then.

P.S.Now that I think about it, if meditations weren't burst heal but minor litanny of wrath, let's say 10% damage to health (stacking up to 40%) for 5 seconds (stacking duration) with every meditation you pop if traited. That would make for an even better high risk/high reward.

Will never happen b/c it would be too popular & no one would play regular