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Herald v Renegade

Hi all, I have recently made a rev which I used a booster to 80 and just started to look at builds and play style
I have only been playing classes with GS so this is quite new for me.

Perhaps it is because I never really noticed it enough but I feel like I have not seen as much heralds as renegades in the game, is there a reason for this? or am I just trippin
I would like to focus on PvE on my rev and was wondering which of the elite specs are more 'wanted' in PvE



  • LucianTheAngelic.7054LucianTheAngelic.7054 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 19, 2019

    Renegade is more "wanted" in high end PvE. Three main builds right now, in order of relevance:

    1) DPS/Support Power Alacrity Renegade ("Alacrigade") - does decent damage, brings Alacrity for 10 people, and has good CC and Soulcleave's Summit. Runs S/S Staff, Kalla/Shiro

    2) Condi DPS Ren - excellent condi dps, has some of the highest potential dps in the game under the right circumstances, sees less use than Alacrigrade, but that's only due to the fact it's a condi dps and also not a support. Uses Mace/Axe, Shortbow with Kalla/Mallyx or Shiro/Mallyx

    3) Healing Renegade - Provides Alacrity and great healing. This is less used and not seen as often, but deserves an honorable mention as it is useful and can easily replace the "Alacrigade DPS" spot in a raid or fractal if the group is struggling to survive

    In contrast, Herald has:

    1) Handkite Herald - Only meta and useful on Deimos, but it's meta and useful on Deimos, so deserves a mention. This is the only Herald build that is currently meta

    2) Power DPS Herald - a very meh power DPS with no burst, so you're better off just running Condi DPS Ren as you'll get the same results on a lot of fights where Power Herald would even be relevant. However, it's really good at providing certain boons for groups that need it so can be useful there if the group is struggling with Fury/Protection, etc.

    2) Healing Herald - Healing Herald can be a great 2nd healer if you need it and also don't need Alacrity from Renegade. Personally, I think Healing Renegade is stronger, but Herald has its niche if you need a bunch of generic boons for up to 10 people

    Personally, I run Renegade for almost all PvE content. In terms of Open World, both Herald and Renegade can perform excellently, though I personally think that Condi Ren is the best Revenant Spec for Open World since it has so much potential sustain, AoE damage, and higher single target DPS than Power Herald. Outside of Open World, Herald performs good to great in PvP, but is hard to master. In WvW, Hammer Herald is great for zerging. Renegade can still be used in PvP/WvW, but it's generally regarded as a very low tier spec. Personally, I've used Ren in PvP in platinum and the spec can be good if played well and geared right, but it's definitely not as good as Herald and gets shutdown by rampant things like Holosmith if you misplay at all

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