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When i do pvp with the Mirage i only ever used the dodge to avoid damage it was wasted on trying to obtain more dps. 2 condition cleanse is about the only other use but that is avoiding damage again. The main reason i don't pvp with the Mesmer is it like the theif, you cant hold points, soak damage or really anything needed for conquest.

They are just tweaking it, I mean it was way to high before. 40k on large targets was a bit op.

I am Mesmer main, (not pvp) but i will say mirage is still very strong in pvp due to the burst. The extra dodge let you escape so much damage while still attacking so that is why it was broken. If it was to be returned then you would have to remove any attack animations during the dodge(like every other dodge) which would make it worse.

Wow so i have to hate virtuoso, if i am Mesmer main. Well i would be rather annoyed if i got another clone based elite spec like the last two since it would add nothing.. One of the main problems with Mesmer is you cant pre-cast damage(phantasms) before a fight, which for open-world means your damage can be very slow unless you spam just clones and waste cooldowns.

I just wanted to voice my positive voice over all this virtuoso hate

Especially the clunky skills and the non-regening blades. It's has a been a since beta 1 but I just remembered the utilities being so hard to use. I also love the lack of clones it mean I can bring my mesmer out on high damage bosses that kill my clones.

Most of my guilds follow the meta for t4s but I do enjoy newbie runs. No one really plays strikes they are about as popular as raids in most of my guilds.

I like longbow ranger but i'm waiting for virtuoso since i love blowing up Zergs at range. It's like playing first person shooter some times, downing a player and Barrage their corpse while using weapon swaps + Quick Draw to get 9 second cooldown on Barrage.

Dude exactly and i have complained about the meta and all people say is join it or get good. I mean if I could get the same dps as scourge or firebrand then i guess everyone else would too but they don't. Everyone plays firebrand, renegade, or scourge for a reason.

I used to love fractals but with the horrible meta I don't enjoy them any more and even hate them at the moment. I have though been really enjoying Dragonfall and Thunderhead meta, especially with a small group. The only other group content i like is bounties since i can duel them with my mirage and live though a lot of the mechanics. Any other recommendations?

yeah did mess up by mentioning that play Mesmer and told them my dps.

i don't know why you got a perception I'm salty, I'm mostly complaining about the numbers of scourges in fractals. i could easily play something else and see the same result. I do agree that EoD will probably change the meta. If i'm salty its people trying to tell me how to play Mesmer my main class of 2 years.

A final note to this thread since this is going no where is this whole thing is super subjective. It is not only me but a few other people on this necro section of the forum that notice something wrong with scourge. You can point out flaws in my build and say why i'm not getting 30k dps like scourge but all is every scourge doing massive damage and never dying much like the other posts on this topic. If i notice it not being an easy mode dps in the future i might play it, we will see.

I looked at the at website and it is very weird is doesn't mention mirage not even staff alacrity version. They also love soulbeast which is probably one of the worst fractal classes since it is so stationary during its rotation like daredevil.

Its more I don't want to swap it and I'm trying to build legendary armor at the moment.

yeah i only just return after playing it before the may patch and definitely noticed a big difference.

Yeah exactly my point which is why I think it is a problem

Yeah this does look like the case, hopefully Necro does get a look at after EoD. I would even be okay for mesmer to get a little nerf since shattering is a not thing for mirage as pointed out.

Nice post again you are doing more work than me who just complains about scourge. I think we just need to give every elite specialisation something unique. I mean many elite specs are limited when it comes to providing the party something meaningful, I love that you run one of everything in a raid since you can capitalise on each classes unique utilities like spirits and banners.

Well I guess I'm saying they are hands down better dps and I can't match there numbers even with the raid build which I opt not to play.

Yes this is a huge problem but i think the way to solve it is providing more classes with unique boons or things to offer a group. Like druid should get backs its 10% damage buff and might.

Yes i completely agree

I feel like its not as bad as you make it out, its really just fractals even in raids other classes are viable since they provide other boons or help in some way. besides necro, pvp has the most diverse class picks

I will say outside of fractals the meta is fine since boon uptime in the open world is pretty unrealistic unless you want to 3 man all pve content. For example in the open world I play off-tank chrono with okay burst dps but It means I can solo champions with my phantasms. My build really shines with random pugs since I can pull agro with phantasmal defender, which I can spawn 4 times in a row.

Amazing post and I completely agree, the only thing I will add is scourge seems to be the most popular choice for dps even if Firebrand is better.