Virtuoso & traits that improve / alter Shatter skills

[Nyel.1843]

Hey there! Very much looking forward to Virtuoso, but I am a bit confused how traits behave, that slightly or completely buff / alter the Shatter skills. 

I get that instead of creating a Clone you're creating a Blade - easy as that. 

Something like this would create a clone, right?

Major Master

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/images/thumb/2/2b/Escape_Artist.png/25px-Escape_Artist.png Escape Artist

Create a clone when you gain stealth.

But how is it with traits like:

Major Adept

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/images/thumb/4/4b/Shattered_Strength.png/25px-Shattered_Strength.png Shatter Storm

Shatter skill 1 becomes an ammo skill.

Major Grandmaster

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/images/thumb/c/c7/Master_of_Fragmentation.png/25px-Master_of_Fragmentation.png Master of Fragmentation

Your Shatter skills are improved.

Did somebody try that out during Beta? 

Thank you!

 

 

Edited September 25, 2021 by Nyel.1843

[draxynnic.3719]

Pretty sure they worked just as they do on the Chronomancer shatters - the shatter that occupies the same space on the bar gets the trait effect. So F1 gets the ammo skill, F4 becomes a reflect, and so on.

 

The traits that appear to have deteriorated effect are those like Sharper Images that primarily relied on having clones around to have an effect (granted, Sharper Images works on phantasms as well, but that's only really useful with phantasms that have multiple attacks like the focus and pistol phantasms).

[HotDelirium.7984]

I think it would be cool if their elite skill was impervious to reflections OR they had a trait where their projectiles can't be reflected. 

[Lincolnbeard.1735]

They did work although there was some sort of bug with shatter storm and damage.

Master of fragmentation's reflect on blade renewal didn't work tho.

[draxynnic.3719]

4 minutes ago, Lincolnbeard.1735 said:

They did work although there was some sort of bug with shatter storm and damage.

Master of fragmentation's reflect on blade renewal didn't work tho.

Possibly because when when they altered it for virtuoso, they made it work with the F4 specifically rather than triggering off any distortion as it does for other mesmers.