THIEF: There is no longer a trait that reduces Deception skill cooldown

[dougalkeane.4601]

Please bring back some sort of trait effect that reduces Deception Skill cooldowns. Why did you take that away? 120 seconds for Thieves' Guild is insane and makes it almost useless in any game mode. That cooldown reduction made helped so much. Please bring that back, doesnt have to be in that same trait slot, just please bring it back. 

[Serephen.3420]

Welcome to the Ele elites club 😉

[Arolandis.8360]

I would also like to note that stealth being removed from Healing and using Steal (from Hidden Thief) is also not good for any thief not running dagger/pistol (which I'm tired of running sometimes).

Honestly I liked most of the changes they made but there are oversights that need to be addressed including what you said.

[Dante.1508]

Thieves' Guild should be 45 secs at best in pve.

[Dadnir.5038]

7 hours ago, Serephen.3420 said:

Welcome to the Ele elites club 😉

Granted that thiefs now have a shroud and that necromancer lack a trait with CD reduction for both spectral and well skills... I think it's more accurate to say: "welcome to the necro elites club".

All in all, most elite skills are held back by absurdly long CD and poor usefulness, no matter which profession.

Edited June 29, 2022 by Dadnir.5038

[eXruina.4956]

careful you don't want to end up like us warriors do you? quiet yourself and eat your bread, a cautionary tale from an old charr warrior.

Edited June 29, 2022 by eXruina.4956

[Strider.7849]

On 6/28/2022 at 4:33 PM, Arolandis.8360 said:

I would also like to note that stealth being removed from Healing and using Steal (from Hidden Thief) is also not good for any thief not running dagger/pistol (which I'm tired of running sometimes).

Honestly I liked most of the changes they made but there are oversights that need to be addressed including what you said.

Blind on steal is pretty powerful for non-dp builds. Offhand dagger for example. Shadow arts increasing stealth durations and rewarding players for lingering in stealth promoted a toxic playstyle. They found a way of reducing stealth by rewarding players for exiting it faster. On some builds this made them incredibly strong like using the initiative gain on exiting/exiting stealth. With the increased initiative costs of weapons and the lowered damage on thief that's occured over time, this helps a ton.

 

There was a lot of bad changes to classes in this recent patch, and while there was a couple on thief I can't stand behind, overall I do think the stealth specific changes was good for the game.

[Antycypator.9874]

You have a lot of sustain in Shadow Arts traits now, why would you use Thieves Guild anyway? Daggerstorm does much better job.

[Ruisenior.6342]

On 7/4/2022 at 9:06 AM, Antycypator.9874 said:

You have a lot of sustain in Shadow Arts traits now, why would you use Thieves Guild anyway? Daggerstorm does much better job.

-What has to do sustain with Thieves Guild. 

-Daggerstorm does better in some situations and worst in others.

-As a core thief now we have only 2 usable elite skills, that kills build diversity. The question should be 'Why anet nerfed an entire utility skill line that did not break the game nor wasn't op'.

[Ruisenior.6342]

On 6/29/2022 at 6:42 AM, Dante.1508 said:

Thieves' Guild should be 45 secs at best in pve.

60 at worst with the cd trait removed from the game