bethekey.8314 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 With the buffs to Tools and nerf to the Inventions shield trait, I'm curious if anyone uses Inventions anymore. Maybe in a Prot Holo build? It used to facilitate much needed condi clear and passive mobility, but Tools does that now and more. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodama.6453 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 I guess you are talking about PvP here? Inventions basically is a PvE only trait line now and just if you play a healing support. Otherwise, not really worth it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bethekey.8314 Posted December 9, 2022 Author Share Posted December 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Kodama.6453 said: I guess you are talking about PvP here? Inventions basically is a PvE only trait line now and just if you play a healing support. Otherwise, not really worth it. Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyBat.9034 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 I haven't been using Inventions much in any of my builds recently. I can think of only a handful of Mechanist and Scrapper builds that use it. Personally I think Inventions needs to do more then just cleanse conditions and grant protection. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuma.1503 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 (edited) Inventions feels like diet alchemy. They both provide support, utility, and survivability, but inventions does it worse. I only ever run it on support or bunker builds, and I only run it alongside the alchemy traitline. It should be given a separate identity of its own. Turrets are a good place to start. Reworking them and fleshing out turret traits will give inventions a distinct niche. Edited December 10, 2022 by Kuma.1503 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matoro.9708 Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 It was cool when it had more than a token trait for your actual inventions, like turrets, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodama.6453 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 7 hours ago, Matoro.9708 said: It was cool when it had more than a token trait for your actual inventions, like turrets, lol. Oh boy, it also annoys me so much that this one trait we kept for turrets has an identity crisis. The reflection bubble is just on turret placement, if you want to get that effect again you have to pick up the turret, wait for it's cooldown to run out and replace it. The other effect of the very same trait is that turrets passively pulse boons while they are placed.... so this portion of the trait wants your turrets to stay out instead of getting picked up and replaced for maximum boon uptime. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghos.1326 Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 On 12/9/2022 at 4:55 PM, bethekey.8314 said: With the buffs to Tools and nerf to the Inventions shield trait, I'm curious if anyone uses Inventions anymore. Maybe in a Prot Holo build? It used to facilitate much needed condi clear and passive mobility, but Tools does that now and more. Yes, my friend. Inventions is officially lost, and forgotten. RIP to what was once our defensive trait line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZolracAtrox.2908 Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 I just hope that if anet nerfs holo; they actually nerf holosmith and don't touch tools that's used by scrappers and core as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyBat.9034 Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 16 hours ago, ZolracAtrox.2908 said: I just hope that if anet nerfs holo; they actually nerf holosmith and don't touch tools that's used by scrappers and core as well. Why would they nerf Holo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZolracAtrox.2908 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 7 hours ago, SleepyBat.9034 said: Why would they nerf Holo? I'm talking about PvP Holo. Idk but always when they nerf PvP Holo; PvE/PvP Scrapper and Core got hit either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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