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obective defense reward exploit, and possible bot


eXruina.4956

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There is teams of 5 Bots Queueing AT´s....

There is Privateservers with bots on them, farming liquid gold....

There is bots in Ranked pvp.....

There is bots farming nodes in the openworld....

There is people multiboxing metaevents...

There is bots and people abusing the system everywhere....  but should we adjust the rewardstructures because of this?

 

(not saying they shouldnt react to this... i am just asking a question here.)

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33 minutes ago, Sahne.6950 said:

There is teams of 5 Bots Queueing AT´s....

There is Privateservers with bots on them, farming liquid gold....

There is bots in Ranked pvp.....

There is bots farming nodes in the openworld....

There is people multiboxing metaevents...

There is bots and people abusing the system everywhere....  but should we adjust the rewardstructures because of this?

 

(not saying they shouldnt react to this... i am just asking a question here.)

aye. i get your point, personally i feel the reward structure is clearly not the problem.

 

also the the above problems you've stated have been around since time immemorial, i just trust them, let them do their thing, hopefully, they eventually manage to address some or even all of these issues. 

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9 hours ago, eXruina.4956 said:

player from our faction runs into objective controlled by opposing faction and commit suicide over and over letting multiple players from the opposing faction tag and kill him. an alt probably, and possibly even a bot.

hmmmm, if only we could've seen this coming 🤔

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19 hours ago, Sahne.6950 said:

There is teams of 5 Bots Queueing AT´s....

There is Privateservers with bots on them, farming liquid gold....

There is bots in Ranked pvp.....

There is bots farming nodes in the openworld....

There is people multiboxing metaevents...

There is bots and people abusing the system everywhere....  but should we adjust the rewardstructures because of this?

 

(not saying they shouldnt react to this... i am just asking a question here.)

 

Are player spots (on maps or instances) for any of the content you mentioned in any way limited in the same way as they are for WvW?

 

Does that answer your question?

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15 minutes ago, Cyninja.2954 said:

 

Are player spots (on maps or instances) for any of the content you mentioned in any way limited in the same way as they are for WvW?

 

Does that answer your question?

Are bots ruining pvp matches every day? 

Does that answer your question?

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17 minutes ago, Sahne.6950 said:

Are bots ruining pvp matches every day? 

Does that answer your question?

You are evading the question. PvP matches are not limited in player count, a new match simply opens up and while the bot presence might be annoying, it also leads to faster games.

Now compare that to the limited amount of slots for players on WvW maps which once full, completely deny player access to the mode.

Are you getting the difference in severity?

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I an getting the difference, no doubt. 

 

But i can also turn this around. 

Does a single bot in a ranked match Ruin the fun for all the 9 others? 

 

I just dont think anet has to rework the reward structures because there is someone abusing it.  Otherwise pvp needs to be completly deleted as it is/was heavily botted. 

We dont even know if what OP saw Was a botfarm. Maybe it was just 2 dudes trying something....   maybe it was a botfarm. We just dont know ^_^

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1 minute ago, Sahne.6950 said:

I an getting the difference, no doubt. 

 

But i can also turn this around. 

Does a single bot in a ranked match Ruin the fun for all the 9 others? 

 

I just dont think anet has to rework the reward structures because there is someone abusing it.  Otherwise pvp needs to be completly deleted as it is/was heavily botted. 

I am not debating if bots are good or bad, I am answering your question why this is especially bad for WvW which you posed.

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Totally agreed, but i dont think it will be as big of a problem really... 

On Gunnars we have this same bot since the dawn of time. Rachelcage. 

Hes been there forever.... He was there before the reward restructures... He is here now.... and he will be here after the rewardstructures have been changed. 

When they rework the rewarda again, rachelcage will just go back to capturing sentrys, and we have less loot.

Unless the botnumbers increase drasticaly i wouldnt be concerned for now. 

Otherwise i will start a thread that Vouchea to remove Participation from sentrys... cuz Rachel is nonstop flipping sentrys since 2015...... 

Bots in wvw is old news, kinda....

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1 minute ago, Sahne.6950 said:

Totally agreed, but i dont think it will be as big of a problem really... 

On Gunnars we have this same bot since the dawn of time. Rachelcage. 

Hes been there forever.... He was there before the reward restructures... He is here now.... and he will be here after the rewardstructures have been changed. 

When they rework the rewarda again, rachelcage will just go back to capturing sentrys, and we lost possible loot. 

 

The amount of bots in PvP did not start where it is at now. It grew to that amount.

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