PsychoSomatic.6728 Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 I see on several builds Quick Heal Scrapper is pistol and shield, I am just curious what advantage it gives over Hammer? I apologize just new to engineer and wanting to understand the weapon choice advantage and drawback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August.5934 Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 1 hour ago, PsychoSomatic.6728 said: I am just curious what advantage it gives over Hammer? PVE: no advantage PVP: Range & no dmg/advantage. The only use for Pistol is if you play as a condi but scrapper isn't a condi spec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasra.3627 Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 shield is more defensive option, you get block, reflect, daze, knockback and blast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August.5934 Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, Jasra.3627 said: shield is more defensive option, you get block, reflect, daze, knockback and blast Hammer skills: "I have reflect, Stun & double stun when u leap on combo field lightning & I have block with better damage. What you on about?" You: *Speachless* 🤣 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsychoSomatic.6728 Posted March 21, 2023 Author Share Posted March 21, 2023 Hello, thank you I was confused because Hammer does indeed have reflect (which in most cases seems better than block) and I knew that hammer can create blasts in fields but I was having trouble seeing blast in shield. I appreciate feedback but I would like to hear more people on the subject. I will have to look at the cooldowns to see if shield has a quicker cooldown then hammer and if so that could make more sense. I will try to see how blast is done with pistol / shield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsychoSomatic.6728 Posted March 21, 2023 Author Share Posted March 21, 2023 Yes this was more for strikes and fractals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shion.2084 Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 4 hours ago, PsychoSomatic.6728 said: I see on several builds Quick Heal Scrapper is pistol and shield, I am just curious what advantage it gives over Hammer? I apologize just new to engineer and wanting to understand the weapon choice advantage and drawback. link to the build and I might provide some insight. Technically shield has a blast, so you could blast a water field. I vastly prefer using hammer as it does CC at range and stacks vuln plus low CD reflect and a bock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerus.4350 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 Shield paired with the Overshield trait in Inventions traitline provides group protection when using the initial shield skills (not the flip skills). Shield also has a knockback/blast with the flip skill of shield4, this can be used to blast fire/water/light fields for might/healing/cleanse as well as being CC. Shield 4 being a reflect as well. Shield 5 can be amazing, it’s a block that stuns when you’re hit and then you can throw it with the flip skill for more CC. Hammer is more selfish, no real benefit to your group. Rifle is viable if you’re ok dropping protection for more might (also immob/knockback and movement), but Shield is pretty much default in Heal Engi of any type. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah Salazar.5430 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 (edited) shield gives aoe protection boon with Over shield on 4+5 4 on hammer not count to that trait you can provid perm protection that way as for pistol, as support you can blind mobs at fractal/drms with 3, so thay will miss thay hit Edited March 22, 2023 by Noah Salazar.5430 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsychoSomatic.6728 Posted March 23, 2023 Author Share Posted March 23, 2023 Thank you all for the clarity. I really appreciate all of you giving your experience on these weapon sets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeyeti.8347 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 On 3/21/2023 at 9:10 PM, August.5934 said: Hammer skills: "I have reflect, Stun & double stun when u leap on combo field lightning & I have block with better damage. What you on about?" You: *Speachless* 🤣 Shield trait give prot. uptime on a 5 peeps and also increase your own prot effectiveness by 20% , meaning a full -7% strike damage taken. I am not gonna do the same "quote" thing as you did , i am more mature than that ... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August.5934 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 3 hours ago, zeyeti.8347 said: I am not gonna do the same "quote" thing as you did , i am more mature than that ... 😏ye sure. I will stay young and enjoy. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeyeti.8347 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 15 hours ago, August.5934 said: 😏ye sure. I will stay young and enjoy. Maturity is not especially linked to the age , you can be 50 and still have the mental state of a child , just saying ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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