True Power Warrior does bad in PvP and here is why.

[Myror.7521]

As we might have seen. Warrior in its current state might not be too bad over all. It got some pretty good Builds around! However this 2 Builds are highly relying on 2 right now broken or too good things. Condition dmg and Bladesworns Healing.

Conditions_Berserker:

This Build see play on a full defence line use. Still it could demolish a player within seconds (if he would not clean conditions). This ends up in a Build been tanky plus dealing omega hard dmg at the same time. (Just how a full melee class called warrior should actually work to be fair). Once conditions on mace/sword would see any nerfs this build would be totaly garbage again.

 

Bladesworn_Defence and Tactics:

This build is hard carried by playing on like 3 (up to 4) healing sources while also gain access to some aegis spam. This build simply wins all 1v1s just by overperforming in terms of selfhealing. Once this selfhealing would get gutted again this build will be also trash tier again.

 

The rest of Warrior builds are eather just CC spam (Hammer/Dagger, Shield) or actually not that good anymore. This comes cause of Warr back over the years getting hard nerfs to litterly every single power burst skill they have access to (not greatsword and rifle). Especialy Axe got realy hard nerfed and does not see any buff since then (from 3.0 power scaling to 2.0) but also Breaching Strike (while been now at a higher power scaling than before February patch) seems to also suffer a bit. This leads in Warriors actually called power Burst skills dealing the same amount of dmg some classes could just do for free or with side attacks. (around 3-4k dmg) Please A-Net let us do actually meaningfull dmg on onehand Power Weapons again! We complete suffer from doing not and the actually meta-Builds both are just spam carry in my eyes! Just do something! xd

[Mungrul.9358]

The CC damage nerf in PvP and wubwub is still one of the most unfair nerfs ANet have ever implemented, alongside only allowing Mirages one dodge.

[Gerebos.1065]

The issue is that Anet changes metas like how others change socks or underwear,as we discussed already in another topic.

Now you got the following armor sets,where a full set is 6 pieces,let's say 1 weapon and the and another 6 trinkets.

Now add all of these: https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Ascended_armor

1. Berserker-Zojja
2. Zealot-Keeper
3. Valkyrie-Gobrech
4. Soldier-Ahamid
5. Harrier-Zehtuka
6. Rampager-Forgemaster
7. Assassin-Saphir
8. Knight-Beigarth
9. Cavalier-Angchu
10. Nomad-Ventari
11. Settler-Leftpaw
12. Giver-Tixx
13. Sentinel-Wei Qi
14. Shaman-Zintl
15. Sinister    -Verata
16. Carrion-Occam
17. Rabid-Ferratus
18. Dire-Morbach
19. Cleric-Tateos
20. Magi-Hronk
21. Apothecary-Veldrunner
22. Bringer-Giftbringer
23. Commander-Tizlak
24. Marauder-Svaard
25. Vigilant-Laranthir
26. Crusader-Ossa
27. Wanderer-Ruka
28. Grieving-The Twins
29. Viper-Yassith
30. Marshal-Nadijeh
31. Seraph-Thackeray
32. Trailblazer-Pahua
33. Minstrel-Maklain
34. Plaguedoctor-Nerashi
35. Diviner-Steelstar
36. Dragon-Suun
37. Ritualist-Togo
38. Celestial-Wupwup

Now all this said 38x13=494+ builds....Now really?

There's not enough gold in Smaug's cave and 10 Elf Lifetemes to keep it up with the constant Metas and gear shifts...

Warrior in every game is the most gear dependent class and I think no one can argue with that.

Condi zerk is good but when you met a cleansing master and his pupil you are dead,no raw damage so they will heal and cleanse you out.

Shoutsworn you get some heal but it costs,your primary hard hitter is the dragon trigger,you need to use it as often and much you can but no adrenaline and the gain rate is slow.

It's okay to have weaknesses in a game is a must but when from 9 professions around 3 is close to useless and your favorite profession is one of them that's when things gets annoying.

The core of the warrior in GW2 is rooting and lately everything have instant break stuns,flashing,sparking,jumping,lunching,etc in a nutshell you cannot properly land anything...Bolas?Dodged...Hammer?Dodged....okay let's get Physical- Bull's Charge,ooopss it got stunned yea ability he is out and immune for a few seconds...and go on who plays warrior knows all of these and even more.

and we told nothing about the kitting professions which one you just cannot cache as a warrior xD and the list can go on

High hopes are in the new update and until then just play for fun even if it's frustrating sometimes xD

[Myror.7521]

@Gerebos.1065 U are right but ...... What does gear have anything to do with PvP mode where gear does not Work at all 🤔. But yea as we all know warrior highly relies on numbers Tuning and thats where warr in terms of raw Power dmg sucks xd

[Shinja.3451]

Finally someone mentions that axe isn't quite right, literally all of his abilities are melee damage and not even close to the damage that other ranged and area stuff does, what ruined him the most was that they increased his cd and removed any additional functionality that his abilities had, a total disgrace on the part of the balance team and to be said to be a balance team while it goes on like this for so long.

[Axl.8924]

is bow better than axe then? right now doing GS axe/axe

i'm only low lvl so i don't know

The one thing i notice is fury is on axe/axe so in theory i could just get fury go back to GS and kill.

Edited July 15, 2023 by Axl.8924

[Myror.7521]

@Axl.8924 No Axe is still a Power weapon while longbow is just condi (aside of longbow 3). Also normal build for PvP would be GS Axe shield while GS and Axe both could gain fury so you crit cap is Like 60%+ Most of the time. Tho this is not the case in Berserk Mode since Arc Divider get No Fury anymore. This makes Arc Divider (Berserk Burst) worse than Arcing slice (core GS Burst) at least in PvP

[Gerebos.1065]

10 hours ago, Myror.7521 said:

@Gerebos.1065 U are right but ...... What does gear have anything to do with PvP mode where gear does not Work at all 🤔. But yea as we all know warrior highly relies on numbers Tuning and thats where warr in terms of raw Power dmg sucks xd

Indeed stat values are the same but difference is  power,condi or tanky 😄

Now I am working on a proper stun build but it's amazing how many professions got stun and condi remove in a single skill or trait or prolonged condi remove/stun remove/invulnerability and with interesting Cooldowns

[Myror.7521]

@Gerebos.1065 Well when it comes to stun there are some Builds around Just something Like this for example:

Spellbraker_CC

Berserker_CC

Core_CC

 

But yea as I mentioned above all this Builds are like more than ezy to outkite ^^

[felix.2386]

why power warrior suck?

 

because for the lack of skills, if you take utility you have no sustain, you take sustain you have no utility

and also adrenaline system suck.

there's no front load damage.

and the majority of damage comes from burst skill, making weapon skill completely garbage.

[captrowdy.9561]

Your playing a different game. Spellbreaker is one of the best pvp classes. Works great for roaming too. Gs/dagger/shield. It’s super fun to play. I just go get nodes because it’s hard to loose a 1v1 on spellbreaker. Hell you can tie up 3 people on the team because spellbreaker is so tanky

[Myror.7521]

@captrowdy.9561 Well it could do it. Just in lower Divisions. In higher ones you are just happy when you could at least win (yes I mean win and not just hold) a 1v1 at all. Simply cause all its skills are very ezy to Dodge you need to play with them and let enemy dodge the "not so hard dmg" stuff to then hit them with "hard Hit" Burst skills. The said point about this is that Burst skills right now hit like a noudle so other classes could Tank them mostly for free like nothing happend while dealing 6k+ dmg with just one Skill themselfs and those ones are often not this easy to Dodge. Thats Just basicly the difference right now.

Warr was Always in the state of the "noob slashing" class.

 

Edited July 16, 2023 by Myror.7521

[felix.2386]

10 hours ago, captrowdy.9561 said:

Your playing a different game. Spellbreaker is one of the best pvp classes. Works great for roaming too. Gs/dagger/shield. It’s super fun to play. I just go get nodes because it’s hard to loose a 1v1 on spellbreaker. Hell you can tie up 3 people on the team because spellbreaker is so tanky

low tier pvp gameplay has no right of opinion.

[Myror.7521]

@felix.2386 surely they have. They are as mutch needed for the gamemode as the hightier is