Zekent.3652 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 (edited) Fireworks works with thief's F1 but the thief relic DOESN'T works with warrior's F1. Relic of Fireworks: upon dealing strike damage using a weapon skill with a recharge time of 20 seconds or more, gain 7% strike damage for 6 seconds. Refreshes duration on stack. Relic of the Thief: upon striking an enemy with a weapon skill that has a recharge or resource cost, gain 1% strike damage for 6 seconds, up to a maximum of 5 stacks, and refresh duration of all stacks to 6 seconds. So, thief F1 is not a weapon skill or is it? And warrior's F1 IS a class mechanic but also doesn't counts as weapon skill in this case, which is weird compared to thief's F1 working with the Fireworks relic. Am i lost? who's bugged? warrior? thief? neither? Edited October 12, 2023 by Zekent.3652 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draxynnic.3719 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 That is weird. I'd expect warrior burst skills to be the ones counting as weapon skills if either of them were. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astralporing.1957 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 5 hours ago, draxynnic.3719 said: That is weird. I'd expect warrior burst skills to be the ones counting as weapon skills if either of them were. This. Unlike with Warrior, Thief F1 is not weapon-dependant at all 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure The Heartless.3261 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 *cough* Warrior balance is an afterthought *cough* Huh? Who said what? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlow.5376 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 You are not lost, brother. My guess is, that Steal activating Relic of Fireworks is a bug. A bug i'd honestly hate to see gone. Since Steal usually sets up your burst, the interaction feels quite smooth. Nonetheless it's probably a bug, since by definition it is a profession mechanic and not a weapon skill. I mean, an argument could be made, that it's the only way to make this relic work on thief at all, so an exeption might be in order? But that's up on the Devs to decide and if so, should be stated in the tooltip. Therefore, on Warrior it's likely working the intended way. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanBB.4268 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 I'd agree. Warrior's F1 doesn't meet the 20s requirement, so that's probably why it doesn't trigger. I wonder if the traited Steal with reduced CD still triggers the relic? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure The Heartless.3261 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, DeanBB.4268 said: I'd agree. Warrior's F1 doesn't meet the 20s requirement, so that's probably why it doesn't trigger. I wonder if the traited Steal with reduced CD still triggers the relic? No. If it's under 20 seconds it doesn't trigger. Quote Warrior's F1 doesn't meet the 20s requirement, so that's probably why it doesn't trigger. underrated comment Quote This. Unlike with Warrior, Thief F1 is not weapon-dependant at all Im pretty sure thief steal uses a weapon strength value for determining what mug should hit for so... maybe technically? Edited October 12, 2023 by Azure The Heartless.3261 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zekent.3652 Posted October 12, 2023 Author Share Posted October 12, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, DeanBB.4268 said: I'd agree. Warrior's F1 doesn't meet the 20s requirement, so that's probably why it doesn't trigger. I wonder if the traited Steal with reduced CD still triggers the relic? That's not what i meant, you don't need the 20s requirement for the thief relic, i'm not talking about fireworks relic on warrior. I'm talking about thief relic not working on warrior's F1, despite it a weapon skill that has CD and resources cost and doesnt works. But the fireworks relic works on thief's steal despite steal not being a weapon skill, doesnt changes based on your weapon (like warrior does) and stills there despite not wearing a weapon (unlike warrior). In conclusion, it's either a thief bug working with the Fireworks relic or a warrior bug not working with the Thief relic. Its confusing @Rubi Bayer.8493. Edited October 12, 2023 by Zekent.3652 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Danny De Ditto.1345 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 Man there's so much powercreep this is good as an oversight, power zerker's pushing 43K we don't need it doing ay extra % of that. We can bring this back when we deal with all this damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zekent.3652 Posted October 14, 2023 Author Share Posted October 14, 2023 13 hours ago, Danny De Ditto.1345 said: Man there's so much powercreep this is good as an oversight, power zerker's pushing 43K we don't need it doing ay extra % of that. We can bring this back when we deal with all this damage. Trust me, i also want lower dps, there's too much dps and there's too much of everything imo, but this is a different topic. We're talking about 2 relics that seems bugged or just with a confusing/bad tooltip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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