Last Crab.6054 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 (edited) Is there a pvp split coming for the necro swords? The coefficients are way too much, needs to be reduced Edited March 14 by Last Crab.6054 2 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriel.8621 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 The real problems with the swords is they're weaker than the other weapons... off hand sword is actually decent but main hand for PVP is whatever especially in ranked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remorseless.6352 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Sword broken 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felincyriac.5981 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 reduced? Swords already hit like a wet noodle lol 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endo.1652 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Bro the swords kill you faster than your opponent does on all the second skills. 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Crab.6054 Posted March 16 Author Share Posted March 16 12 hours ago, felincyriac.5981 said: reduced? Swords already hit like a wet noodle lol what do you mean, they all have PVE coefficients on them. Don't gaslight, they hit like trucks 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Crab.6054 Posted March 16 Author Share Posted March 16 5 hours ago, Endorphin.9147 said: Bro the swords kill you faster than your opponent does on all the second skills. No they don't. Swords OP, we are not defending degens today 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Crab.6054 Posted March 16 Author Share Posted March 16 On 3/14/2024 at 4:26 PM, Gabriel.8621 said: The real problems with the swords is they're weaker than the other weapons... off hand sword is actually decent but main hand for PVP is whatever especially in ranked Are you running a no power at all set? Do you not know how c.e's work? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sereath.1428 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 (edited) 1 hour ago, Last Crab.6054 said: what do you mean, they all have PVE coefficients on them. Don't gaslight, they hit like trucks Yeah, noticed the same thing. Is the wiki right? Why do some weapons barely have pve/pvp splits? According to the site only mace 5 for rangers has a pvp split, the other skills are using pve coefficients inside pvp. Same goes for warrior's staff, which is the second most overloaded weapon. Funny. Edit: Necro swords also barely have any splits. They really didn't test this much, the beta was just a thing to test for crashes I guess. Edited March 16 by Sereath.1428 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shagie.7612 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 2 hours ago, Sereath.1428 said: Is the wiki right? Probably not. I don't know about necro swords but for example the zerker staff burst page doesn't have the correct pvp coefficient on it yet, you have to look in the patch notes on the 27th or whatever for it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrHome.1920 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 4 hours ago, Last Crab.6054 said: what do you mean, they all have PVE coefficients on them. Don't gaslight, they hit like trucks To quote you: No they don't. E.g. the autoattacks crit for around 1k damage in PvP. The only multiplier that is the same in PvE and PvP is the self damage, which I bet is not what you were talking about. Any other arguments besides referring to a wrong wiki entry? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myror.7521 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 @Sereath.1428 hmmm maybe its just me but i don't think that a weapon focused on healing with only 2 skills that do actually somewhat dmg is just overloaded xd. Its the comb of warriors self sustain plus as said healing weapon+ offhand weapons dmg and Spellbrakers mechanic that make the build stronk. However. Yes i said strong. Its just easily killable If you simply just dodge its burst skills xd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marxx.5021 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Necro swords are not a problem compared to other new weapon specs like warrior. It is as unbalanced as it can be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felincyriac.5981 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 15 hours ago, Last Crab.6054 said: what do you mean, they all have PVE coefficients on them. Don't gaslight, they hit like trucks perhaps you mean the swords hit the necromancer like a truck? They do more dmg to the user bruh 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nepster.4275 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Swords are really weak, basically using any other weapon is doing more damage, maybe not dagger Like sw4/5 is good, but the mainhand is just too weak, and also has no condi applications either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Crab.6054 Posted March 17 Author Share Posted March 17 (edited) 6 hours ago, Nepster.4275 said: Swords are really weak, basically using any other weapon is doing more damage, maybe not dagger Like sw4/5 is good, but the mainhand is just too weak, and also has no condi applications either Well, I disagree. On reaper, I can go into shroud, do my thing, drop shroud and in about 1.5 secs do 18k+ damage with 3 skills+reactivates...and thats after a full mic drop in shroud. I don't know what weak means. I only see reapers running sword, no axe, no focus...also they have good lifeforce build... Edited March 17 by Last Crab.6054 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotejjeken.1267 Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 Using PvE coefficient is problematic, that's for sure. But otherwise, there is severe lack of context here--is full glass hitting 18k against like a bunker? As that seems normal, because I can go berserker amulet, etc. on power untamed and probably hit 18k full melee mode. If this is a more bunker (i.e. not berserker ammy) then that might be an issue considering all the innate defenses most necro builds have through shroud alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flumek.9043 Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Im just confused and out of loop, so ill just ask. Is there an actual non meme build for the trashy swords? Or we all silvers here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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