marmaladebacon.2064 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 I get it, the big ley lines circle is very pretty and a lot of work has gone into the art, but if it obscures mechanics you're supposed to avoid it's functionally useless. 6 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vennyhedgie.5369 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 This has been an issue since Scourge was introduced and they haven't fixed it in like 8 years so I'm not holding my hopes up. 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crosknight.3041 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 yeah, this is probably the biggest complaint i have from the teaser. hopefully it's listened to. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Calaway.9718 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 This is what happens when "progress" is tied to the flashiest most obnoxious effects and particles possible. Everyone walking around like they've been dipped in glitter, and now, weapon effects that were once exclusive to legendaries have been plastered on most skins that came out for years culminating on just flat out class effects, you don't even get a choice anymore by picking a weapon with no effects, your class has that covered... Wanna play Soulbeast? Enjoy that permanent aura, wanna Spear around with Elementalist? Paint the whole area so everyone knows you're there doing work! 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodle Ant.1605 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 2 hours ago, Dean Calaway.9718 said: Wanna play Soulbeast? Enjoy that permanent aura, wanna Spear around with Elementalist? Paint the whole area so everyone knows you're there doing work! except visuals like these are heavily culled for allies, so theyll only see that the ele went downstate and not the visual vomit that caused them to miss that red circle 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marmaladebacon.2064 Posted June 22 Author Share Posted June 22 14 hours ago, Noodle Ant.1605 said: except visuals like these are heavily culled for allies, so theyll only see that the ele went downstate and not the visual vomit that caused them to miss that red circle even if that's true, they still need to solve the visual clutter for the ele themselves by not having an opaque black mess under the leylines blocking mechanics. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ippy.9048 Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 This is completely my personal opinion, but I don't think beautiful effects will be removed or given an on/off option because they are, in a sense, in a trade-off relationship with powerful functions. In other words, large and beautiful effects have the disadvantage of being easily spotted by enemies. It seems that this disadvantage is traded off for the powerful functions they provide. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marmaladebacon.2064 Posted June 22 Author Share Posted June 22 34 minutes ago, ippy.9048 said: This is completely my personal opinion, but I don't think beautiful effects will be removed or given an on/off option because they are, in a sense, in a trade-off relationship with powerful functions. In other words, large and beautiful effects have the disadvantage of being easily spotted by enemies. It seems that this disadvantage is traded off for the powerful functions they provide. Should the effects be visible in PvP to allow counterplay from the enemy team? Sure, that is valid design. Should the effects be disruptive to your teammates and your own efforts when doing mechanics in a PvE setting? No, because that would just lead to the weapon not being used. Your teammates would hate you for it and request you switch or be kicked, and if it's not being used then what's the point of all the dev time making the weapon? Some middle ground like removing the atrocious oil spill effect under the ley lines glyph while keeping the glyph lines and making it translucent would be a good start. The effects would still be large and beautiful minus the oil spill. An example of a player controlled skill just trolling teammates is the RDM's Limit Break 3 in FFXIV, it's basically a flashy skill that covers the arena and makes it impossible to see common mechanics like an enemy aoe until it's too late, this video being a great example. FFXIV allows you to toggle off other player effects, but not their limit break. And therein led to the unintentional griefing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faebe.7341 Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 I wish these fields were just big fire, water, static and earth fields and not this big black fields that dont fit elementalists style. and yeah Im worried I will see even less in combat. do not like how this AOE looks at all. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeyeti.8347 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 they can just give an option to hide those aoe effects , like they should have done for untamed f3 pet skill and staff unleash skill , also afraid those area hide other aoe who you need to avoid , but heh you play ele , going downstate is part of the rotation after all , and you don't obstruct your allies vision , that's so kind of all ele players. Do the same for untamed plz anet , so they only have vision obstructed by this annoying pet fart skill f3 and not allies and this obnoxious staff skill. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus.6415 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 I really love those new visuals and I'm definately not going to complain before i have seen it in action. For everyone else in the group not playing Ele with spear it is definately a non concern because the effects can be downgraded to barely be visible. Anet should just project those red aoe rings from boss mechanics on top of all other effects. Why do they even have to be on the lowest layer and every player field effect is covering them up? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santo.2419 Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 Pretty sure that in the live stream they said that it is only visible to you, and not you allies. They just see the circle as a marker (maybe it'll be an option?). This prob does not fix the problem if it's about what the caster can see themselves. But at least you will not be covering for allies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marmaladebacon.2064 Posted June 27 Author Share Posted June 27 On 6/25/2024 at 12:43 PM, Santo.2419 said: Pretty sure that in the live stream they said that it is only visible to you, and not you allies. They just see the circle as a marker (maybe it'll be an option?). This prob does not fix the problem if it's about what the caster can see themselves. But at least you will not be covering for allies. yea, definitely would prefer if it doesn't obscure the caster's view as well! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadaLina.7621 Posted yesterday at 08:01 AM Share Posted yesterday at 08:01 AM This! i love spear skills but dude i cant see under the circle!! they should give us the option to color target aoe, like make it blue for exemple, if eso can do it gw2 should! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mini Crinny.6190 Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago I think it's just the fact that they decided to hide it for other players because it was so bad but didn't think about the actual player using it lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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