Richard Marcinko.5132 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Apologies if this has already been posted but does anyone have a Renegade build with Grieving Stats? I have tried them on other classes and have had good results but I have never seen a build with them for Renegade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ojimaru.8970 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 For PVE, Grieving doesn't work with Renegade becauseLack of expertise equals lack of condition duration, and thus your overall damage with be gimped;Power scaling of Mace and Shortbow skills mean that the additional critical damage won't make up for the loss of DPS from the lack of Condition Duration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infusion.7149 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 As Ojimaru started: Mace power scaling is extremely poor at 0.35 to 0.6 coefficient for the auto and below 1.0 for the 2 and 3 skillGrieving benefits crits more (~+40% crit damage is not 40% damage) , viper adds ~ 40% condition duration while retaining the same power statShortbow was rather terrible in general until it was buffed multiple times and now its auto scales a bit better than mace (auto is 0.65 coefficient) , although due to attack speed and projectile nature it's not a great ideaIn PvP modes grieving could be better due to cleanses but for PvE there's no cleanses involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.5684 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 @Richard Marcinko.5132 said:Apologies if this has already been posted but does anyone have a Renegade build with Grieving Stats? I have tried them on other classes and have had good results but I have never seen a build with them for Renegade.I think infusion and Ojimaru summarized the reason why it does not work: I actually tried it with sword using renegade/corruption/invocation. It does not work well either. Honestly, outside of FB and weaver, I do not think grieving works well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kain Francois.4328 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 This really does make me wish Mace could get a power buff. I mean, it's a mace for pete sake. Maces are supposed to hit hard. Duh.If Sword is to be our Single-target weapon, Hammer is our range, and Staff is Defense/CC, then it makes perfect sense for Mace to be the AoE weapon.I'd gladly accept a very slight condi damage nerf is it opens up Mace to be used in either stat set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lare.5129 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 I has try use revenant width with Grieving Stats armor + viper jewel. It is good choose, but not best.And main question - why you sure that result is realy good ? What tool you use ? Because some flying numbers near target don't give you real vision.May be can be useful on dps firebrand, because he can earn more expertise from traits. I use same set on fb, and kill mobs faster visual. But can say dps numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonewolf Kai.3682 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 I use Griever stats for WvW, but there, where cleansing is freely given out like Halloween candy, is where it’s best used at, for the quick condi/power burst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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