Warclaw allows me to play support build!

sephiroth.4217 · May 26, 2019

@Obtena.7952 said:
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@sephiroth.4217 said:
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@sephiroth.4217 said:
@Obtena.7952 said:Oh nice, the same usual suspects complaining about mounts because they don't like that the game isn't how they think it should be. How's that working for you fellas?

A lot better than your reading skills apparently lmao

I dont think you even read the OP whereas a dismount skill and dismount trap are on the way. (Bit off topic now)

I read th OP and I'm aware of these developments ... yet I still see the same people complaining about mounts with these things coming. bad craftsmen always blame their tools.

Can I have what you're having?

Also I see no complaints, unless criticism, observations and feedback count as complaints?

I don't know, can you? Still the same complaints from the same people. I think the best part is that they have adapted to the change ... just like they were told they will have to. Feels good to know how things will shape up.

Yes it was good to hear from Anet they will be adding dismounts and various mechanics to the mount. This should open up build diversity again, I can go back to using Celestial builds and it took a while to craft a full set.

I assume the quality of my fights will go up again once its implemented and the roamers come back to the game (the ones who adapted).

If they can handle it of course as a dismount skill would ultimately make it harder for "gankers" and roamers alike.. predator will become prey to the masses.

As I said to another user, maybe ive got you guys pegged all wrong, I thought you guys were zergers afraid to be ganked but maybe youre actually one of these "gankers" you claim to hate knowing full well that a dismount skill would ultimately make your life harder.

Assume what you will about whoever you want if it satisfies your desire to play those games with yourself. I doubt actually that the dismount skill will prevent the complaining from the people who dislike the mount because the issue isn't that people can't be dismounted for them ... it's the fact that the mount simply exists. There are already ways to dismount people.

See you're on a different subject here, this isn't about liking the mount or not as I love it. This is about balance.

Take Celestial gear for example and think about the time and effort put into making such gear only to be nullified or restricted to a very specific playstyle.This goes for a lot of stats actually.

Then theres also people who endlessly tag keep and mount around like clowns for another example.

Obtena.7952 · May 26, 2019

It's funny when people talk about balance ... like they know better than Anet about what Anet wants to do with the game. Mounts in WvW is a great example that ... people complain that mounts even exist ... but clearly Anet thinks it's a good idea to have them.

spectrito.8513 · May 26, 2019

@"Obtena.7952" said:It's funny when people talk about balance ... like they know better than Anet about what Anet wants to do with the game. Mounts in WvW is a great example that ... people complain that mounts even exist ... but clearly Anet thinks it's a good idea to have them.

Because Anet dont play their own game, their balance patches are irrelevant for the most part, they dont know how to balance their game.Look how long it took to "balance" mirage, look what they did with DE, and to fix it they screwed any other stealth user with the marked mechanic.Not to mention how many core classes they screwed trying to adress the powercreep in elite specs.they know how to make toys and chairs but balance ? Hell no.

Psycoprophet.8107 · May 26, 2019

@spectrito.8513 said:
@"Obtena.7952" said:It's funny when people talk about balance ... like they know better than Anet about what Anet wants to do with the game. Mounts in WvW is a great example that ... people complain that mounts even exist ... but clearly Anet thinks it's a good idea to have them.

Because Anet dont play their own game, their balance patches are irrelevant for the most part, they dont know how to balance their game.Look how long it took to "balance" mirage, look what they did with DE, and to fix it they screwed any other stealth user with the marked mechanic.Not to mention how many core classes they screwed trying to adress the powercreep in elite specs.they know how to make toys and chairs but balance ? Hell no.

This ^As much as anyone can try and say that arenet doesn't listen to nerf whines by the community the past is proof they do. The only rebuke people have to that statement is it is purely coincidence which is obviously lame. Not only do they listen to nerf cries they often listen to the wrong ones. It is pretty obvious by the decisions they have made regarding balance that they in fact do not play thier game enough nor have enough of a understanding how classes are performing as a whole to make proper balance changes. Not that the community does either as that to is all over the place. The arguement of who's OP and who's not based on AT's needs to stop as well as that's a rediculous way to gauge how well as a whole a class is performing through out multiple game modes as what can be op in pve and wvw can be sub optimal in conquest and vice versa. Honestly unless the devs in charge of balance dont start actually devoting time to playing EVERY class often and take the time to see how its performing in each mode this games complete mess of balance isn't going to get any better as more band aids on top of band aids causing more issues elsewhere until their band aid fixed will continue until eventually a new mmo with a similar combat comes out and gw2 will be dropped soo hard by its playerbase or it will kill just die out.But hey :) we got a new episode and skyscale.

Bunny.9834 · May 26, 2019

Now that we have Warclaw to help support builds reach zerg, it’ll be nice to unnerf gank builds in WvW.

Obtena.7952 · May 26, 2019

@spectrito.8513 said:
@Obtena.7952 said:It's funny when people talk about balance ... like they know better than Anet about what Anet wants to do with the game. Mounts in WvW is a great example that ... people complain that mounts even exist ... but clearly Anet thinks it's a good idea to have them.

Because Anet dont play their own game, their balance patches are irrelevant for the most part, they dont know how to balance their game.

You don't know they don't play their own game and how they balance the game depends on what they want balance to be, not what you think it should be.

But yeah, please tell me how Anet is balancing the game based on what players want while player wants go unfulfilled all the time ...

spectrito.8513 · May 26, 2019

@Obtena.7952 said:
@spectrito.8513 said:
@Obtena.7952 said:It's funny when people talk about balance ... like they know better than Anet about what Anet wants to do with the game. Mounts in WvW is a great example that ... people complain that mounts even exist ... but clearly Anet thinks it's a good idea to have them.

Because Anet dont play their own game, their balance patches are irrelevant for the most part, they dont know how to balance their game.

You don't know they don't play their own game and how they balance the game depends on what they want balance to be, not what you think it should be.

But yeah, please tell me how Anet is balancing the game based on what players want while player wants go unfulfilled all the time ...

i wonder why players gets frustrated, no sane person in forums/ingame asks for more power creep, rather the opposite, yet Anet keeps making it worse.

Psycoprophet.8107 · May 26, 2019

@Obtena.7952 said:
@spectrito.8513 said:
@Obtena.7952 said:It's funny when people talk about balance ... like they know better than Anet about what Anet wants to do with the game. Mounts in WvW is a great example that ... people complain that mounts even exist ... but clearly Anet thinks it's a good idea to have them.

Because Anet dont play their own game, their balance patches are irrelevant for the most part, they dont know how to balance their game.

You don't know they don't play their own game and how they balance the game depends on what they want balance to be, not what you think it should be.

But yeah, please tell me how Anet is balancing the game based on what players want while player wants go unfulfilled all the time ...

Seriously? Players go unfullfilled because when they do do changes based of nerf cries they do them in a way that nerfs what the community is whining about but take very little of the communities suggestion on how to do so and because they dont know their own game their nerfs literally destroy other builds with in the class or as a consequence of the nerf another already weak part of a spec gets nerfed leaving long time players of the class in question scratching their heads. This behavior is the same reason when they make a change to a spec that alternatively needlessly nagatively effect other specs of the class that are already weak and or are obviously bad changes to the point every one in the community calls out the mistake arenet always refuses to revert any changes they've made. Arenet wont revert changes admitting due to them that is like admitting they made a mistake with balancing. Goid example lead attacks was never a issue until deadeye but they didnt know their game enough to know how the change would effect core and DD. Swipe change they prob had no clue as to the impact I'd have on d/p. They did a great job on berserker eh? Im guessing Next patch sic em will be nerfed in some lazy way. This games powercreep is at a all time high and sic em has aperantly been fine to them up till now so why change it? Guessing enough cries have been in forums lately for arenet to work their magic on it lmao gonna be interesting to see what they do.

Obtena.7952 · May 26, 2019

@Psycoprophet.8107 said:
@Obtena.7952 said:
@spectrito.8513 said:
@Obtena.7952 said:It's funny when people talk about balance ... like they know better than Anet about what Anet wants to do with the game. Mounts in WvW is a great example that ... people complain that mounts even exist ... but clearly Anet thinks it's a good idea to have them.

Because Anet dont play their own game, their balance patches are irrelevant for the most part, they dont know how to balance their game.

You don't know they don't play their own game and how they balance the game depends on what they want balance to be, not what you think it should be.

But yeah, please tell me how Anet is balancing the game based on what players want while player wants go unfulfilled all the time ...

Seriously? Players go unfullfilled because when they do do changes based of nerf cries they do them in a way that nerfs what the community is whining about but take very little of the communities suggestion on how to do so and because they dont know their own game their nerfs literally destroy other builds with in the class or as a consequence of the nerf another already weak part of a spec gets nerfed leaving long time players of the class in question scratching their heads. This behavior is the same reason when they make a change to a spec that alternatively needlessly nagatively effect other specs of the class that are already weak and or are obviously bad changes to the point every one in the community calls out the mistake arenet always refuses to revert any changes they've made. Arenet wont revert changes admitting due to them that is like admitting they made a mistake with balancing. Goid example lead attacks was never a issue until deadeye but they didnt know their game enough to know how the change would effect core and DD. Swipe change they prob had no clue as to the impact I'd have on d/p. They did a great job on berserker eh? Im guessing Next patch sic em will be nerfed in some lazy way. This games powercreep is at a all time high and sic em has aperantly been fine to them up till now so why change it? Guessing enough cries have been in forums lately for arenet to work their magic on it lmao gonna be interesting to see what they do.

I dunno ... you're the one telling me Anet is changing the game because of forum feedback ... and now you're telling me they can't satisfy players.

Seems to me what's more logical is that Anet does what they want because players will complain about it regardless.Even though you might not like how Anet does things does not mean Anet has no clue how to balance their game. Anet's balance is based on their ideas of what it should be, not yours and not any other player, including the people that complain on the forums. You don't think it's a coincidence that SOMETIMES the player complaints align with what Anet does ... but that IS the simplest explanation for it because it doesn't actually happen that often.

reddie.5861 · May 26, 2019

@Obtena.7952 said:
@Psycoprophet.8107 said:
@Obtena.7952 said:
@spectrito.8513 said:
@Obtena.7952 said:It's funny when people talk about balance ... like they know better than Anet about what Anet wants to do with the game. Mounts in WvW is a great example that ... people complain that mounts even exist ... but clearly Anet thinks it's a good idea to have them.

Because Anet dont play their own game, their balance patches are irrelevant for the most part, they dont know how to balance their game.

You don't know they don't play their own game and how they balance the game depends on what they want balance to be, not what you think it should be.

But yeah, please tell me how Anet is balancing the game based on what players want while player wants go unfulfilled all the time ...

Seriously? Players go unfullfilled because when they do do changes based of nerf cries they do them in a way that nerfs what the community is whining about but take very little of the communities suggestion on how to do so and because they dont know their own game their nerfs literally destroy other builds with in the class or as a consequence of the nerf another already weak part of a spec gets nerfed leaving long time players of the class in question scratching their heads. This behavior is the same reason when they make a change to a spec that alternatively needlessly nagatively effect other specs of the class that are already weak and or are obviously bad changes to the point every one in the community calls out the mistake arenet always refuses to revert any changes they've made. Arenet wont revert changes admitting due to them that is like admitting they made a mistake with balancing. Goid example lead attacks was never a issue until deadeye but they didnt know their game enough to know how the change would effect core and DD. Swipe change they prob had no clue as to the impact I'd have on d/p. They did a great job on berserker eh? Im guessing Next patch sic em will be nerfed in some lazy way. This games powercreep is at a all time high and sic em has aperantly been fine to them up till now so why change it? Guessing enough cries have been in forums lately for arenet to work their magic on it lmao gonna be interesting to see what they do.

I dunno ... you're the one telling me Anet is changing the game because of forum feedback ... and now you're telling me they can't satisfy players.

Seems to me what's more logical is that Anet does what they want because players will complain about it regardless.Even though you might not like how Anet does things does not mean Anet has no clue how to balance their game. Anet's balance is based on their ideas of what it should be, not yours and not any other player, including the people that complain on the forums. You don't think it's a coincidence that SOMETIMES the player complaints align with what Anet does ... but that IS the simplest explanation for it because it doesn't actually happen that often.

wait when anet announced something (this mount) people on forum where saying pls let it not be a mount.weeks later tadaaaaaaaa here u go guys have a mount...

they could have canceled in all this weeks they had and even put something else into wvw but nope.when no1 wanted it they still pushed it tru.

spectrito.8513 · May 26, 2019

@Obtena.7952 said:
@Psycoprophet.8107 said:
@Obtena.7952 said:
@spectrito.8513 said:
@Obtena.7952 said:It's funny when people talk about balance ... like they know better than Anet about what Anet wants to do with the game. Mounts in WvW is a great example that ... people complain that mounts even exist ... but clearly Anet thinks it's a good idea to have them.

Because Anet dont play their own game, their balance patches are irrelevant for the most part, they dont know how to balance their game.

You don't know they don't play their own game and how they balance the game depends on what they want balance to be, not what you think it should be.

But yeah, please tell me how Anet is balancing the game based on what players want while player wants go unfulfilled all the time ...

Seriously? Players go unfullfilled because when they do do changes based of nerf cries they do them in a way that nerfs what the community is whining about but take very little of the communities suggestion on how to do so and because they dont know their own game their nerfs literally destroy other builds with in the class or as a consequence of the nerf another already weak part of a spec gets nerfed leaving long time players of the class in question scratching their heads. This behavior is the same reason when they make a change to a spec that alternatively needlessly nagatively effect other specs of the class that are already weak and or are obviously bad changes to the point every one in the community calls out the mistake arenet always refuses to revert any changes they've made. Arenet wont revert changes admitting due to them that is like admitting they made a mistake with balancing. Goid example lead attacks was never a issue until deadeye but they didnt know their game enough to know how the change would effect core and DD. Swipe change they prob had no clue as to the impact I'd have on d/p. They did a great job on berserker eh? Im guessing Next patch sic em will be nerfed in some lazy way. This games powercreep is at a all time high and sic em has aperantly been fine to them up till now so why change it? Guessing enough cries have been in forums lately for arenet to work their magic on it lmao gonna be interesting to see what they do.

I dunno ... you're the one telling me Anet is changing the game because of forum feedback ... and now you're telling me they can't satisfy players.

Seems to me what's more logical is that Anet does what they want because players will complain about it regardless.Even though you might not like how Anet does things does not mean Anet has no clue how to balance their game. Anet's balance is based on their ideas of what it should be, not yours and not any other player, including the people that complain on the forums. You don't think it's a coincidence that SOMETIMES the player complaints align with what Anet does ... but that IS the simplest explanation for it because it doesn't actually happen that often.

Well, complaining about Warclaw seemed to work.We even got a sticky.So Anet doesnt do whatever they want and players opnions doesnt matter like you keep saying every other post.

Obtena.7952 · May 26, 2019

@spectrito.8513 said:
@Obtena.7952 said:
@Psycoprophet.8107 said:
@Obtena.7952 said:
@spectrito.8513 said:
@Obtena.7952 said:It's funny when people talk about balance ... like they know better than Anet about what Anet wants to do with the game. Mounts in WvW is a great example that ... people complain that mounts even exist ... but clearly Anet thinks it's a good idea to have them.

Because Anet dont play their own game, their balance patches are irrelevant for the most part, they dont know how to balance their game.

You don't know they don't play their own game and how they balance the game depends on what they want balance to be, not what you think it should be.

But yeah, please tell me how Anet is balancing the game based on what players want while player wants go unfulfilled all the time ...

Seriously? Players go unfullfilled because when they do do changes based of nerf cries they do them in a way that nerfs what the community is whining about but take very little of the communities suggestion on how to do so and because they dont know their own game their nerfs literally destroy other builds with in the class or as a consequence of the nerf another already weak part of a spec gets nerfed leaving long time players of the class in question scratching their heads. This behavior is the same reason when they make a change to a spec that alternatively needlessly nagatively effect other specs of the class that are already weak and or are obviously bad changes to the point every one in the community calls out the mistake arenet always refuses to revert any changes they've made. Arenet wont revert changes admitting due to them that is like admitting they made a mistake with balancing. Goid example lead attacks was never a issue until deadeye but they didnt know their game enough to know how the change would effect core and DD. Swipe change they prob had no clue as to the impact I'd have on d/p. They did a great job on berserker eh? Im guessing Next patch sic em will be nerfed in some lazy way. This games powercreep is at a all time high and sic em has aperantly been fine to them up till now so why change it? Guessing enough cries have been in forums lately for arenet to work their magic on it lmao gonna be interesting to see what they do.

I dunno ... you're the one telling me Anet is changing the game because of forum feedback ... and now you're telling me they can't satisfy players.

Seems to me what's more logical is that Anet does what they want because players will complain about it regardless.Even though you might not like how Anet does things does not mean Anet has no clue how to balance their game. Anet's balance is based on their ideas of what it should be, not yours and not any other player, including the people that complain on the forums. You don't think it's a coincidence that SOMETIMES the player complaints align with what Anet does ... but that IS the simplest explanation for it because it doesn't actually happen that often.

Well, complaining about Warclaw seemed to work.We even got a sticky.So Anet doesnt do whatever they want and players opnions doesnt matter like you keep saying every other post.

Or Anet already had those plans. /shrug I guess we won't know.

spectrito.8513 · May 26, 2019

@Obtena.7952 said:
@spectrito.8513 said:
@Obtena.7952 said:
@Psycoprophet.8107 said:
@Obtena.7952 said:
@spectrito.8513 said:
@Obtena.7952 said:It's funny when people talk about balance ... like they know better than Anet about what Anet wants to do with the game. Mounts in WvW is a great example that ... people complain that mounts even exist ... but clearly Anet thinks it's a good idea to have them.