Stand The Wall.6987 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 I think it would be cool if DD got some more uniqueness. what are your thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Vincent III.1286 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Core steal and DE Mark are based on the target's profession. What if Swipe is based on the active and off-set weapon they are using?Example: Steal from Ranger using a Longbow - Steal Long Arrow: Use it to stab your target causing bleeding and torment. Stealing from Dragonhunter will cause burning instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jugglemonkey.8741 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 The problem is that mark is a totally new mechanic that the spec is built around, wheras swipe is not. I'd love to see something like no stolen skills at all, but where swipe is a combo finisher type attack, the damage/function is proportional to how much damage you'd dealt with normal weapon skills without taking damage (plays into the evade playstyle), and vary the skill based on weaponset. Would also fit the daredevil name a lot better imo, as it would encourage risky play, getting yourself in harms way to set up the attack, and would potentially create a brawler playstyle with the right effects without outright tanking attacks. Something like that is a fundamental change tho, so it's not gonna happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobber.6348 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Similar to DE steal.That means a unique skill based on profession +regain Endurance if below 2 bars of Endurance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycoprophet.8107 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 This requires imagination all while not being the easiest route for DD so as much as DD having identity further than having half the old acrobatics line with a now nerfed steal would be great it won't happen.Great idea non the less though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobx.1758 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 @Sir Vincent III.1286 said:Core steal and DE Mark are based on the target's profession. What if Swipe is based on the active and off-set weapon they are using?Example: Steal from Ranger using a Longbow - Steal Long Arrow: Use it to stab your target causing bleeding and torment. Stealing from Dragonhunter will cause burning instead.I don't like it, seems too randomized for me and that even before considering weapon swaps or kits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Vincent III.1286 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 @Sobx.1758 said:@"Sir Vincent III.1286" said:Core steal and DE Mark are based on the target's profession. What if Swipe is based on the active and off-set weapon they are using?Example: Steal from Ranger using a Longbow - Steal Long Arrow: Use it to stab your target causing bleeding and torment. Stealing from Dragonhunter will cause burning instead.I don't like it, seems too randomized for me and that even before considering weapon swaps or kits.Kits will have no effect since it's not the weapon they have equipped. There's only 16 terran weapons and 3 aquatic weapons. That's not "too random".What's random is stealing a Mace from a Guardian using a Longbow and a Greatsword. Or an axe from a Warrior using daggers and swords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobx.1758 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 @Sir Vincent III.1286 said:@Sobx.1758 said:@Sir Vincent III.1286 said:Core steal and DE Mark are based on the target's profession. What if Swipe is based on the active and off-set weapon they are using?Example: Steal from Ranger using a Longbow - Steal Long Arrow: Use it to stab your target causing bleeding and torment. Stealing from Dragonhunter will cause burning instead.I don't like it, seems too randomized for me and that even before considering weapon swaps or kits.Kits will have no effect since it's not the weapon they have equipped. There's only 16 terran weapons and 3 aquatic weapons. That's not "too random".What's random is stealing a Mace from a Guardian using a Longbow and a Greatsword. Or an axe from a Warrior using daggers and swords.Nope, what's random is going into the fight with a class and not knowing what skill you'll get until they pull out the weapon. And then they swap in a bad moment and you still didn't get what you wanted to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Vincent III.1286 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 @Sobx.1758 said:@Sir Vincent III.1286 said:@Sobx.1758 said:@Sir Vincent III.1286 said:Core steal and DE Mark are based on the target's profession. What if Swipe is based on the active and off-set weapon they are using?Example: Steal from Ranger using a Longbow - Steal Long Arrow: Use it to stab your target causing bleeding and torment. Stealing from Dragonhunter will cause burning instead.I don't like it, seems too randomized for me and that even before considering weapon swaps or kits.Kits will have no effect since it's not the weapon they have equipped. There's only 16 terran weapons and 3 aquatic weapons. That's not "too random".What's random is stealing a Mace from a Guardian using a Longbow and a Greatsword. Or an axe from a Warrior using daggers and swords.Nope, what's random is going into the fight with a class and not knowing what skill you'll get until they pull out the weapon. And then they swap in a bad moment and you still didn't get what you wanted to.You're confusing "random" from "unknown".Even though a Warrior can use many weapons, they can only equip 2 out of 13, which makes the item you're stealing unknown but predictable -- not random.Engineer and Elem can only equip one weapon at a time (no swapping) so it makes the stolen item more predictable.Even if they swap out of their main weapon set, I still don't see anything to complain about.Besides, this thread is about what you and I want. This is what I want. Post what you want. We can agree to disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobx.1758 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 @Sir Vincent III.1286 said:@Sobx.1758 said:@Sir Vincent III.1286 said:@Sobx.1758 said:@Sir Vincent III.1286 said:Core steal and DE Mark are based on the target's profession. What if Swipe is based on the active and off-set weapon they are using?Example: Steal from Ranger using a Longbow - Steal Long Arrow: Use it to stab your target causing bleeding and torment. Stealing from Dragonhunter will cause burning instead.I don't like it, seems too randomized for me and that even before considering weapon swaps or kits.Kits will have no effect since it's not the weapon they have equipped. There's only 16 terran weapons and 3 aquatic weapons. That's not "too random".What's random is stealing a Mace from a Guardian using a Longbow and a Greatsword. Or an axe from a Warrior using daggers and swords.Nope, what's random is going into the fight with a class and not knowing what skill you'll get until they pull out the weapon. And then they swap in a bad moment and you still didn't get what you wanted to.You're confusing "random" from "unknown".No, I'm not. When you go into WvW fight it's as good as random including the weapon swap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Vincent III.1286 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 @Sobx.1758 said:@Sir Vincent III.1286 said:@Sobx.1758 said:@Sir Vincent III.1286 said:@Sobx.1758 said:@Sir Vincent III.1286 said:Core steal and DE Mark are based on the target's profession. What if Swipe is based on the active and off-set weapon they are using?Example: Steal from Ranger using a Longbow - Steal Long Arrow: Use it to stab your target causing bleeding and torment. Stealing from Dragonhunter will cause burning instead.I don't like it, seems too randomized for me and that even before considering weapon swaps or kits.Kits will have no effect since it's not the weapon they have equipped. There's only 16 terran weapons and 3 aquatic weapons. That's not "too random".What's random is stealing a Mace from a Guardian using a Longbow and a Greatsword. Or an axe from a Warrior using daggers and swords.Nope, what's random is going into the fight with a class and not knowing what skill you'll get until they pull out the weapon. And then they swap in a bad moment and you still didn't get what you wanted to.You're confusing "random" from "unknown".No, I'm not. When you go into WvW fight it's as good as random including the weapon swap.I guess it's not for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobx.1758 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 @Sir Vincent III.1286 said:@Sobx.1758 said:@Sir Vincent III.1286 said:@Sobx.1758 said:@Sir Vincent III.1286 said:@Sobx.1758 said:@Sir Vincent III.1286 said:Core steal and DE Mark are based on the target's profession. What if Swipe is based on the active and off-set weapon they are using?Example: Steal from Ranger using a Longbow - Steal Long Arrow: Use it to stab your target causing bleeding and torment. Stealing from Dragonhunter will cause burning instead.I don't like it, seems too randomized for me and that even before considering weapon swaps or kits.Kits will have no effect since it's not the weapon they have equipped. There's only 16 terran weapons and 3 aquatic weapons. That's not "too random".What's random is stealing a Mace from a Guardian using a Longbow and a Greatsword. Or an axe from a Warrior using daggers and swords.Nope, what's random is going into the fight with a class and not knowing what skill you'll get until they pull out the weapon. And then they swap in a bad moment and you still didn't get what you wanted to.You're confusing "random" from "unknown".No, I'm not. When you go into WvW fight it's as good as random including the weapon swap.I guess it's not for everyone.Yup, that's still just my opinon. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycoprophet.8107 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 DD is a product of lazy and rushed development hence the inclusion of half the acro line thus wrecking the orig acro line in the process.Have something like f1 switched staff skills to offensive style stance with 5 skills and f2 switches to a defensive set of 5 skills with a f3 ultimate skill depending on what stance ur in that has to be built up to activate woulda been far better than getting a steal copy f1 and stolen traits from an existing line lol.Maybe not the best idea but just an example of how little work and imagination went into DD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Vincent III.1286 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 @Sobx.1758 said:@Sir Vincent III.1286 said:@Sobx.1758 said:@Sir Vincent III.1286 said:@Sobx.1758 said:@Sir Vincent III.1286 said:@Sobx.1758 said:@Sir Vincent III.1286 said:Core steal and DE Mark are based on the target's profession. What if Swipe is based on the active and off-set weapon they are using?Example: Steal from Ranger using a Longbow - Steal Long Arrow: Use it to stab your target causing bleeding and torment. Stealing from Dragonhunter will cause burning instead.I don't like it, seems too randomized for me and that even before considering weapon swaps or kits.Kits will have no effect since it's not the weapon they have equipped. There's only 16 terran weapons and 3 aquatic weapons. That's not "too random".What's random is stealing a Mace from a Guardian using a Longbow and a Greatsword. Or an axe from a Warrior using daggers and swords.Nope, what's random is going into the fight with a class and not knowing what skill you'll get until they pull out the weapon. And then they swap in a bad moment and you still didn't get what you wanted to.You're confusing "random" from "unknown".No, I'm not. When you go into WvW fight it's as good as random including the weapon swap.I guess it's not for everyone.Yup, that's still just my opinon. :pThat's perfectly fine. ;) I'm actually curious on what you want stolen instead using Swipe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Vincent III.1286 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 @Psycoprophet.8107 said:DD is a product of lazy and rushed development hence the inclusion of half the acro line thus wrecking the orig acro line in the process.Have something like f1 switched staff skills to offensive style stance with 5 skills and f2 switches to a defensive set of 5 skills with a f3 ultimate skill depending on what stance ur in that has to be built up to activate woulda been far better than getting a steal copy f1 and stolen traits from an existing line lol.Maybe not the best idea but just an example of how little work and imagination went into DD.Even though I would like to see this in GW2, however, that is no longer a specialization of the Thief. That's sounds more of what a Warrior would do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fade.5904 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 Swipe should be a 2 ammo skill with a longer cd than steal on full recharge, same cooldown on single use recharge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonSeed.3528 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 It'd be fun if swipe started with an insta evade followed by tp and unblockable strike to opponent. Ammo might make it op though. Prefer just the CD reduction from trickery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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