Abelisk.4527 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Hi all,The Metabattle build, "Disenchanter" is a really powerful build. I urge all Chrono mains to try it out. It excels in teamfighting and side-noding (unblockable boonstrip and attack, stability-cutting CC) as well as constant CC and damage. It's ridiculous.This was my first game with the build, if it doesn't prove what I'm saying nothing will.https://i.imgur.com/hnn0qO3l.jpgEdit: how do i embed images on mobile? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sodeni.6041 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 I don't get why you would play with a staff and not with a gs in this build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abelisk.4527 Posted February 14, 2018 Author Share Posted February 14, 2018 @Sodeni.6041 said:I don't get why you would play with a staff and not with a gs in this build. Phase Retreat, staff 3, chaos storm, chao armor+protection synergy. Way more suitable for sustain than GS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeoLegend.5132 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 i dont see why a Chrono would choose Sustain instead of crazy high burst Shatter damage. I can 100-0 a Sustain Chrono with my Shatter all day and there's better Bunkers on the Market (Like OP Druid) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlerk.4761 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 It's not really good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abelisk.4527 Posted February 14, 2018 Author Share Posted February 14, 2018 @KeoLegend.5132 said:i dont see why a Chrono would choose Sustain instead of crazy high burst Shatter damage. I can 100-0 a Sustain Chrono with my Shatter all day and there's better Bunkers on the Market (Like OP Druid)Why not have both high sustain and high damage? :pStaff has better point/group pressure than GS, so it works wonderfully with Phantasms. Most of the damage comes from your Phants anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apharma.3741 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 0 stunbreak, 1 good corrupt and you're FUBAR. I was running a chrono build similar but dropped mantra of pain for a stunbreak and it felt a lot better in WvW but then it was mostly designed to counter FB rez in small scale roaming so disenchanter for stab removal and GW CC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abelisk.4527 Posted February 15, 2018 Author Share Posted February 15, 2018 That's why Phase Retreat is useful. Also, just don't get corrupted or CCd. You have tools for that. (Stab on shatter is yuge). I don't know if it works in Wvw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apharma.3741 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 WvW has more fluidity than PvP, you can be in a 3v3 then suddenly it's a 3v30. You could also come across 6 scourges just spamming AoEs all over making it far too difficult to not get corrupted. Like I say, 1 good corrupt and you're FUBAR. Boon strip is not as high but again a boon hate build would kill you too regardless. I just don't think it's a great build but if it works for you play it, there's hardly a competitive scene anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abelisk.4527 Posted February 15, 2018 Author Share Posted February 15, 2018 Usually I put PVP/WVW for builds I find. This one I left out WVW for a purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velimere.7685 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 @Sodeni.6041 said:I don't get why you would play with a staff and not with a gs in this build. Staff already spawns 2 phantasms untraited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zealex.9410 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 As ori said this skill should be nerfed in pvp. Not by that much where the skill will become useless but rn its overperforming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apharma.3741 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 @zealex.9410 said:As ori said this skill should be nerfed in pvp. Not by that much where the skill will become useless but rn its overperforming.Would be nice if disenchanter instead did damage based on the number of boons ripped off, oh wait no, that's a spellbreaker thing, they're the true boon haters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zealex.9410 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 @apharma.3741 said:@zealex.9410 said:As ori said this skill should be nerfed in pvp. Not by that much where the skill will become useless but rn its overperforming.Would be nice if disenchanter instead did damage based on the number of boons ripped off, oh wait no, that's a spellbreaker thing, they're the true boon haters.would be nice if the attacks werent unblockable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exciton.8942 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 @zealex.9410 said:@apharma.3741 said:@zealex.9410 said:As ori said this skill should be nerfed in pvp. Not by that much where the skill will become useless but rn its overperforming.Would be nice if disenchanter instead did damage based on the number of boons ripped off, oh wait no, that's a spellbreaker thing, they're the true boon haters.would be nice if the attacks werent unblockable.That would make the skill completely useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exciton.8942 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Honestly, I can't figure out how to play this build. Feels so clumsy and so not mesmer-like.Would 100% take spellbreaker for a similar role but much smoother gameplay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zealex.9410 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 @Exciton.8942 said:@zealex.9410 said:@apharma.3741 said:@zealex.9410 said:As ori said this skill should be nerfed in pvp. Not by that much where the skill will become useless but rn its overperforming.Would be nice if disenchanter instead did damage based on the number of boons ripped off, oh wait no, that's a spellbreaker thing, they're the true boon haters.would be nice if the attacks werent unblockable.That would make the skill completely useless.Not really its all a matter of timing anyways. But it either needs that or a big nerf to its dmg or boons deleted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exciton.8942 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 @zealex.9410 said:@Exciton.8942 said:@zealex.9410 said:@apharma.3741 said:@zealex.9410 said:As ori said this skill should be nerfed in pvp. Not by that much where the skill will become useless but rn its overperforming.Would be nice if disenchanter instead did damage based on the number of boons ripped off, oh wait no, that's a spellbreaker thing, they're the true boon haters.would be nice if the attacks werent unblockable.That would make the skill completely useless.Not really its all a matter of timing anyways. But it either needs that or a big nerf to its dmg or boons deleted.I don't think so. Spellbreaker break enchantment does similar thing but is much much more difficult to avoid with 1/4s cast time.The only thing too strong about disechanter is its damage. Being randomly blocked by aegis will make the skill completely useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exciton.8942 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 @zealex.9410 said:@Exciton.8942 said:@zealex.9410 said:@apharma.3741 said:@zealex.9410 said:As ori said this skill should be nerfed in pvp. Not by that much where the skill will become useless but rn its overperforming.Would be nice if disenchanter instead did damage based on the number of boons ripped off, oh wait no, that's a spellbreaker thing, they're the true boon haters.would be nice if the attacks werent unblockable.That would make the skill completely useless.Not really its all a matter of timing anyways. But it either needs that or a big nerf to its dmg or boons deleted.I don't think so. Spellbreaker break enchantment does similar thing but is much much more difficult to avoid with 1/4s cast time.The only thing too strong about disechanter is its damage. Being randomly blocked by aegis will make the skill completely useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abelisk.4527 Posted February 15, 2018 Author Share Posted February 15, 2018 It's probably easier for me since I usually play Bunker Mesmer (a passive-aggressive playstyle). Different strokes for different folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmageddonAsh.6430 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 @apharma.3741 said:@zealex.9410 said:As ori said this skill should be nerfed in pvp. Not by that much where the skill will become useless but rn its overperforming.Would be nice if disenchanter instead did damage based on the number of boons ripped off, oh wait no, that's a spellbreaker thing, they're the true boon haters.This would have been a MUCH better design choice. For me, when roaming its either remove boons OR deal big damage. Given that the game is FULL of boons all over the place. Not many times in a fight will you fight someone without any boons :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exciton.8942 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 @ArmageddonAsh.6430 said:@apharma.3741 said:@zealex.9410 said:As ori said this skill should be nerfed in pvp. Not by that much where the skill will become useless but rn its overperforming.Would be nice if disenchanter instead did damage based on the number of boons ripped off, oh wait no, that's a spellbreaker thing, they're the true boon haters.This would have been a MUCH better design choice. For me, when roaming its either remove boons OR deal big damage. Given that the game is FULL of boons all over the place. Not many times in a fight will you fight someone without any boons :/It is really only strong with chronophantasm. You rip the boon with first hit and do massive damage with second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmageddonAsh.6430 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 @Exciton.8942 said:It is really only strong with chronophantasm. You rip the boon with first hit and do massive damage with second.And the rest of us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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