Axelteas.7192 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 I play burn guardian in wvw, dont have the exansion, and its cancerous how easily mesmers with the spec mirage kill me. Its cancerous, I can win with every class except this, because by what i've read is broken and overpowered, what can I do instead of running away when i see a mirage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EremiteAngel.9765 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Pure condi burn core guard is a niche build that works against some classes/builds but because of its lack of condi coverage, can struggle against opponents with decent condi clear and just knowing that you are a burn guard puts you at a disadvantage because then they just need to watch for the burns.Furthermore with all the new anti-condi runes/sigils like anti-toxin runes and cleansing sigils, pure condi builds are getting harder and harder to play.A hybrid or pure power DPS core guard on the other hand, is a lot deadlier I feel.I heard from friends that a hybrid or power DPS core guard utilizing Radiance trait is a force to be reckon with.And to answer your title, try core necro =p5 mins and 20 seconds onwards, fought two very good mirages.vT's power mirage and EV's condi mirage.vT is a guild packed with skilled roamers.EV mirage was a mesmer that I've tried beating for the past 5 years but only managed this 1 win recently thanks to cleansing sigils haha...Either way, my advise would be to stick with your favorite class and experiment with builds + ask for tips on the guardian forum (if guard is your favorite).https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ctt6piLXQ0Y Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincolnbeard.1735 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Tell me a core mesmer build that have real opportunities vs pof elite specs (protip you can't).See what I did?Regarding your question s/d core thieves eat mirages for breakfast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icewielder.4195 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 @EremiteAngel.9765 said:Pure condi burn core guard is a niche build that works against some classes/builds but because of its lack of condi coverage, can struggle against opponents with decent condi clear and just knowing that you are a burn guard puts you at a disadvantage because then they just need to watch for the burns.Furthermore with all the new anti-condi runes/sigils like anti-toxin runes and cleansing sigils, pure condi builds are getting harder and harder to play.A hybrid or pure power DPS core guard on the other hand, is a lot deadlier I feel.I heard from friends that a hybrid or power DPS core guard utilizing Radiance trait is a force to be reckon with.And to answer your title, try core necro =p5 mins and 20 seconds onwards, fought two very good mirages.vT's power mirage and EV's condi mirage.vT is a guild packed with skilled roamers.EV mirage was a mesmer that I've tried beating for the past 5 years but only managed this 1 win recently thanks to cleansing sigils haha...Either way, my advise would be to stick with your favorite class and experiment with builds + ask for tips on the guardian forum (if guard is your favorite).Second core necro. I have little trouble with beating mirages, I typically swap a skill on my bar up for them but nothing crazy. Can beat them with glass core necro of both zerker (peak power damage) and grieving (terrormancer) variants. Their boring and annoying as hell to fight but they typically don't scare me. Core meditation burst guards can even more so mug a mirage, but a little hint, don't assume the staff is only for support. I still need to do a staff/staff burst guard roaming video.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrFoooster.8192 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 dont reveal core builds that work against pof ! they're going to nerf it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawdler.8521 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Somewhat ironic thread as a medi guard can instakill people from 1200 range by chaining delayed skills. Well, not instakill really. It takes 0.2 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EremiteAngel.9765 Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 @Icewielder.4195 said:@EremiteAngel.9765 said:Pure condi burn core guard is a niche build that works against some classes/builds but because of its lack of condi coverage, can struggle against opponents with decent condi clear and just knowing that you are a burn guard puts you at a disadvantage because then they just need to watch for the burns.Furthermore with all the new anti-condi runes/sigils like anti-toxin runes and cleansing sigils, pure condi builds are getting harder and harder to play.A hybrid or pure power DPS core guard on the other hand, is a lot deadlier I feel.I heard from friends that a hybrid or power DPS core guard utilizing Radiance trait is a force to be reckon with.And to answer your title, try core necro =p5 mins and 20 seconds onwards, fought two very good mirages.vT's power mirage and EV's condi mirage.vT is a guild packed with skilled roamers.EV mirage was a mesmer that I've tried beating for the past 5 years but only managed this 1 win recently thanks to cleansing sigils haha...Either way, my advise would be to stick with your favorite class and experiment with builds + ask for tips on the guardian forum (if guard is your favorite).Second core necro. I have little trouble with beating mirages, I typically swap a skill on my bar up for them but nothing crazy. Can beat them with glass core necro of both zerker (peak power damage) and grieving (terrormancer) variants. Their boring and annoying as hell to fight but they typically don't scare me. Core meditation burst guards can even more so mug a mirage, but a little hint, don't assume the staff is only for support. I still need to do a staff/staff burst guard roaming video..Now that you mention it, I remember seeing a staff firebrand defeat a mirage.It was so shocking I think I chose to forget it as a one-time fluke lol.And looking forward to your staff guard video! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaranthe.3578 Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 In spvp power core guards win against mirage 1v1, Im guessing it would work in wvw too.If youre playing the game buy the expac, theres no reason not to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simonoly.4352 Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 S/D and D/P ThievesMedi GuardianMeta roamer Warrior (this is just an excellent core build in general) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axelteas.7192 Posted December 29, 2018 Author Share Posted December 29, 2018 @Amaranthe.3578 said:In spvp power core guards win against mirage 1v1, Im guessing it would work in wvw too.If youre playing the game buy the expac, theres no reason not to.my pc can run core gw2, but I tried the beta of POF and was like 3-4 fps unplayable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortrialus.3062 Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVzpKN1g1WkPower Medi Core Guard has a very strong match up against Mirage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solori.6025 Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 Try power medi- as that is actually meta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaranthe.3578 Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 @Axelteas.7192 said:@Amaranthe.3578 said:In spvp power core guards win against mirage 1v1, Im guessing it would work in wvw too.If youre playing the game buy the expac, theres no reason not to.my pc can run core gw2, but I tried the beta of POF and was like 3-4 fps unplayableWell the game is notorious for being badly optimized(gtx 1060 and even 1080 dont get 60 fps with max settings). You might want to change some setting before setting out to the pof/hot zones.If youre playing only wvw/spvp even the e-specs alone are worth it.You might want to get a PC thats not a potato. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteepledHat.1345 Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 @Axelteas.7192 said:I play burn guardian in wvw, dont have the exansion, and its cancerous how easily mesmers with the spec mirage kill me. Its cancerous, I can win with every class except this, because by what i've read is broken and overpowered, what can I do instead of running away when i see a mirage?Lmao, you literally are playing a counter to condi mirage. Get better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apharma.3741 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 @"EremiteAngel.9765" said:Pure condi burn core guard is a niche build that works against some classes/builds but because of its lack of condi coverage, can struggle against opponents with decent condi clear and just knowing that you are a burn guard puts you at a disadvantage because then they just need to watch for the burns.Furthermore with all the new anti-condi runes/sigils like anti-toxin runes and cleansing sigils, pure condi builds are getting harder and harder to play.A hybrid or pure power DPS core guard on the other hand, is a lot deadlier I feel.I heard from friends that a hybrid or power DPS core guard utilizing Radiance trait is a force to be reckon with.And to answer your title, try core necro =p5 mins and 20 seconds onwards, fought two very good mirages.vT's power mirage and EV's condi mirage.vT is a guild packed with skilled roamers.EV mirage was a mesmer that I've tried beating for the past 5 years but only managed this 1 win recently thanks to cleansing sigils haha...Either way, my advise would be to stick with your favorite class and experiment with builds + ask for tips on the guardian forum (if guard is your favorite).https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ctt6piLXQ0YThe irony is that valk core guard can (or could) win vs mirage quite easily because of the insane damage they can do especially with smite conditions. I've seen that hit for 4k+ on a mirage with 2.9k armour.Yet there's only 1 core mesmer build that is remotely viable in WvW and that's the old PU condi roamer with chaos, insp, illusions and even they I wouldn't say it can beat anything now condition cleanse is so high in most roamer specs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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