Nickv.8031 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 I'm going to keep this simple. If your mount gets hit in wvw it gets slowed down to a normal person in combat speed. So sick of not being able to play power classes excluding ranger because 1500 range 4k auto attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovereign.1093 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 @Nickv.8031 said:I'm going to keep this simple. If your mount gets hit in wvw it gets slowed down to a normal person in combat speed. So sick of not being able to play power classes excluding ranger because 1500 range 4k auto attacks.3< nuuu don't touch my mount. >3< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickv.8031 Posted July 24, 2019 Author Share Posted July 24, 2019 That's the problem, i can't touch your mount. I'm hoping anet makes it so i can. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Documental.5946 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 for/10char Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadlySynz.3471 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 This will never happen; it completely obliterates the use of the mount. Players will just have to learn to deal with it. Either jump on a ranger, or spec in conditions. Worse case scenario, if you really want to gank the player that bad, follow them to wherever they're going, and when they dismount, kill them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigpapasmurf.5623 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Don't know if you heard or not, however there is something coming that will help you...mounts will be able to dismount other mounted players in WvW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oOStaticOo.9467 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Mounts were the best thing to happen to WvW. Unfortunately too many people are crying about the Mount and Anet is starting to listen to them and give them what they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindcircus.1506 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Good players adapt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickv.8031 Posted July 24, 2019 Author Share Posted July 24, 2019 @"DeadlySynz.3471" said:This will never happen; Players will just have to learn to deal with it. Either jump on a ranger, or spec in conditions. Worse case scenario, if you really want to gank the player that bad, follow them to wherever they're going, and when they dismount, kill them.Let me break this down...."it completely obliterates the use of the mount." Mounts are a great way to get around a map they are faster then players and have 3 evades."Either jump on a ranger, or spec in conditions." So what your saying is don't play classes and specs i like, just swap over to something with condition damage. Can't tell if that's a troll or what"Worse case scenario, if you really want to gank the player that bad, follow them to wherever they're going, and when they dismount, kill them." They are either going for their zerg or waiting for an outnumbered fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickv.8031 Posted July 24, 2019 Author Share Posted July 24, 2019 @mindcircus.1506 said:Good players adapt.I'm not a good player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrik.7560 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 Mounts are terrible because it's awful stomp feature and the fact people can freely run away from any fight without being caught. The only solution I have (in small scale only) is play pew pew or fire weaver and signet of fire the monkeys and watch them dismount in a few seconds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spectrito.8513 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 @Nickv.8031 said:@"DeadlySynz.3471" said:This will never happen; Players will just have to learn to deal with it. Either jump on a ranger, or spec in conditions. Worse case scenario, if you really want to gank the player that bad, follow them to wherever they're going, and when they dismount, kill them.Let me break this down...."it completely obliterates the use of the mount." Mounts are a great way to get around a map they are faster then players and have 3 evades."Either jump on a ranger, or spec in conditions." So what your saying is don't play classes and specs i like, just swap over to something with condition damage. Can't tell if that's a troll or what"Worse case scenario, if you really want to gank the player that bad, follow them to wherever they're going, and when they dismount, kill them." They are either going for their zerg or waiting for an outnumbered fight.Pretty much this.The ammount of players roaming pre-mount was 2-3 times what we have now.It killed build diversity and roaming, also ganking is much worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickv.8031 Posted July 25, 2019 Author Share Posted July 25, 2019 @Henrik.7560 said:Mounts are terrible because it's awful stomp feature and the fact people can freely run away from any fight without being caught. The only solution I have (in small scale only) is play pew pew or fire weaver and signet of fire the monkeys and watch them dismount in a few seconds Same here, only i have been using condi scrapper/ranger. Kinda getting boring not being able to play other classes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickv.8031 Posted July 25, 2019 Author Share Posted July 25, 2019 @spectrito.8513 said:@Nickv.8031 said:@"DeadlySynz.3471" said:This will never happen; Players will just have to learn to deal with it. Either jump on a ranger, or spec in conditions. Worse case scenario, if you really want to gank the player that bad, follow them to wherever they're going, and when they dismount, kill them.Let me break this down...."it completely obliterates the use of the mount." Mounts are a great way to get around a map they are faster then players and have 3 evades."Either jump on a ranger, or spec in conditions." So what your saying is don't play classes and specs i like, just swap over to something with condition damage. Can't tell if that's a troll or what"Worse case scenario, if you really want to gank the player that bad, follow them to wherever they're going, and when they dismount, kill them." They are either going for their zerg or waiting for an outnumbered fight.Pretty much this.The ammount of players roaming pre-mount was 2-3 times what we have now.It killed build diversity and roaming, also ganking is much worse.I agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickv.8031 Posted July 25, 2019 Author Share Posted July 25, 2019 I would like to hear what people think about my idea. I see a lot of comments from people just pretty much saying mounts are great or mounts are bad. But no real feed back to my idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spectrito.8513 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 @Nickv.8031 said:I would like to hear what people think about my idea. I see a lot of comments from people just pretty much saying mounts are great or mounts are bad. But no real feed back to my idea.What you suggested wont change the need to play ranged builds to hit.We need something that all classes can use to dismount someone, which is the dismount skill Anet announced but it was 3 months ago and this is WvW, they probably forgot about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickv.8031 Posted July 25, 2019 Author Share Posted July 25, 2019 @spectrito.8513 said:@Nickv.8031 said:I would like to hear what people think about my idea. I see a lot of comments from people just pretty much saying mounts are great or mounts are bad. But no real feed back to my idea.What you suggested wont change the need to play ranged builds to hit.We need something that all classes can use to dismount someone, which is the dismount skill Anet announced but it was 3 months ago and this is WvW, they probably forgot about itHow so? The mount would slow down if you manage to hit it. If people want to go around me and keep out of my melee range I could always use the already in place dismount skill to put them in combat. And if what i suggested was to be put in, they would be slow enough to be hit after i dismount tag them. Sure they can use those 3 evades to make a gap, at least it would be viable for me to play the classes i want again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonSeed.3528 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 @spectrito.8513 said:@Nickv.8031 said:I would like to hear what people think about my idea. I see a lot of comments from people just pretty much saying mounts are great or mounts are bad. But no real feed back to my idea.What you suggested wont change the need to play ranged builds to hit.We need something that all classes can use to dismount someone, which is the dismount skill Anet announced but it was 3 months ago and this is WvW, they probably forgot about itThe problem with a dismount skill is that a mount is actually required, and not everyone has a mount so anet needs to consider no more cc immunity and less hp and dodges as well for people without mounts to deal with them. A player using skills and cooldowns just to dismount someone should also affect the enemies hp in some way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonSeed.3528 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 @spectrito.8513 said:@Nickv.8031 said:I would like to hear what people think about my idea. I see a lot of comments from people just pretty much saying mounts are great or mounts are bad. But no real feed back to my idea.What you suggested wont change the need to play ranged builds to hit.We need something that all classes can use to dismount someone, which is the dismount skill Anet announced but it was 3 months ago and this is WvW, they probably forgot about itThe problem with a dismount skill is that a mount is actually required, and not everyone has a mount so anet needs to consider no more cc immunity and less hp and dodges as well for people without mounts to deal with them. A player using skills and cooldowns just to dismount someone should also affect the enemies hp in some way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickv.8031 Posted July 25, 2019 Author Share Posted July 25, 2019 @DemonSeed.3528 said:@spectrito.8513 said:@Nickv.8031 said:I would like to hear what people think about my idea. I see a lot of comments from people just pretty much saying mounts are great or mounts are bad. But no real feed back to my idea.What you suggested wont change the need to play ranged builds to hit.We need something that all classes can use to dismount someone, which is the dismount skill Anet announced but it was 3 months ago and this is WvW, they probably forgot about itThe problem with a dismount skill is that a mount is actually required, and not everyone has a mount so anet needs to consider no more cc immunity and less hp and dodges as well for people without mounts to deal with them. A player using skills and cooldowns just to dismount someone should also affect the enemies hp in some way.Every one has worked for the mount and It doesn't take 2 long to get. But on the other hand I wouldn't mind if they just handed them out to new players. As far as the cc/less hp/less dodges thing. I don't think that would work because the mount should still have a chance at getting away, and not become completely useless. But they should be slowed to a normal persons combat speed so i have a chance to take them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spectrito.8513 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 @Nickv.8031 said:@spectrito.8513 said:@Nickv.8031 said:I would like to hear what people think about my idea. I see a lot of comments from people just pretty much saying mounts are great or mounts are bad. But no real feed back to my idea.What you suggested wont change the need to play ranged builds to hit.We need something that all classes can use to dismount someone, which is the dismount skill Anet announced but it was 3 months ago and this is WvW, they probably forgot about itHow so? The mount would slow down if you manage to hit it. If people want to go around me and keep out of my melee range I could always use the already in place dismount skill to put them in combat. And if what i suggested was to be put in, they would be slow enough to be hit after i dismount tag them. Sure they can use those 3 evades to make a gap, at least it would be viable for me to play the classes i want again.Oh now i understand what you want and i think thats not possible because how they coded mounts.In Ben's post he said that MAYBE they would implement a break bar so Warclaw could be affected by CC and this would be already too much work.To make it vulnerable to CC they would have to change the base mount code and this will not happen, sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickv.8031 Posted July 25, 2019 Author Share Posted July 25, 2019 @spectrito.8513 said:@Nickv.8031 said:@spectrito.8513 said:@Nickv.8031 said:I would like to hear what people think about my idea. I see a lot of comments from people just pretty much saying mounts are great or mounts are bad. But no real feed back to my idea.What you suggested wont change the need to play ranged builds to hit.We need something that all classes can use to dismount someone, which is the dismount skill Anet announced but it was 3 months ago and this is WvW, they probably forgot about itHow so? The mount would slow down if you manage to hit it. If people want to go around me and keep out of my melee range I could always use the already in place dismount skill to put them in combat. And if what i suggested was to be put in, they would be slow enough to be hit after i dismount tag them. Sure they can use those 3 evades to make a gap, at least it would be viable for me to play the classes i want again.Oh now i understand what you want and i think thats not possible because how they coded mounts.In Ben's post he said that MAYBE they would implement a break bar so Warclaw could be affected by CC and this would be already too much work.To make it vulnerable to CC they would have to change the base mount code and this will not happen, sadly.I want a normal warclaw speed with all of its evades and hp. The only thing i want changed is how fast the warclaw moves while in combat. As far as code goes i have no idea if they can just simply turn down the speed in combat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobx.1758 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 If WvW is supposed to be a way to get "open-world pvp feeling" known from other mmorpgs (and I think it is?) then this change seems to be a good idea. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonSeed.3528 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 @Nickv.8031 said:Every one has worked for the mount and It doesn't take 2 long to get. But on the other hand I wouldn't mind if they just handed them out to new players. As far as the cc/less hp/less dodges thing. I don't think that would work because the mount should still have a chance at getting away, and not become completely useless. But they should be slowed to a normal persons combat speed so i have a chance to take them out.Ah, I meant the ones that don't have the mount which are non-pof players, they will be sol since mount only has the dismount skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickv.8031 Posted July 25, 2019 Author Share Posted July 25, 2019 @DemonSeed.3528 said:@Nickv.8031 said:Every one has worked for the mount and It doesn't take 2 long to get. But on the other hand I wouldn't mind if they just handed them out to new players. As far as the cc/less hp/less dodges thing. I don't think that would work because the mount should still have a chance at getting away, and not become completely useless. But they should be slowed to a normal persons combat speed so i have a chance to take them out.Ah, I meant the ones that don't have the mount which are non-pof players, they will be sol since mount only has the dismount skill.Ya, you are right about that. People who don't have pof wouldn't be able to use a mount as a combat tag. But I wouldn't say you are completely sol, the slower movement speed if you manage to land a hit would put them at your speed. Giving you way better odds of a dismount if compared to how it is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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