Senqu.8054

The last half year I worked intensive on my second Master degree and evaluated a global operating company. I've learned several techniques to measure process performance. For this I created a maturity model and measuring points for the application of Six Sigma and recorded and evaluated thousands of key figures. Last but not least I created a 40k word essay with 165 sites, cited key Literatur and showed academically the need of the developed tools. The results of my thesis are now used to improve the process performance which will save the company a lot of money. Others of us got children, moved to another country or state and began a totally different life from the one they had in the past. One or two even were promoted and are now working on tasks not even remotely like the ones they did. We had to learn complex stuff very new to us and are able to meet the requirements for our job, for our lives, for ourselves. Life changed for us all I could say. But not GW2. GW2 stayed the same. The same bugged, broken balanced game it started to be after the first years. We did all the mentioned things above while ANet managed to come up with ~ 10 number changes to mesmer in PvP and WvW from which 50% are nerfs and they still haven’t reverted the one dodge nerf. The point is, this stuff needs so long to be fixed, by the time it is fixed humanity has reach world peace or a state of warhammer 40k.

To respond to op, I feel the same and it pretty much made me turn away from gw2. Everything feels so clunky and lack luster. Taking Mirage or chrono feels more like a punishment then an enhancement. And taking Core is unbearable to begin with making it all around an unpleasant experience. Even more so the variants of traits you can pick from. The change to chaos trait line to base everything around condi damage / regen made it even worse for me. And all the time this underlaying feeling of getting your coolest stuff outsourced. To give one of the latest examples, look at Chaotic Interruption compared to Fervent Force (GM trait of Untamed). Chaotic Interruption: When you interrupt a foe, recharge one of your equipped-weapon skills at random. Recharge Time: 5s ICD: 1s - Restricted to interrupt - Restricted to one skill - Restricted to weapon skills - Dosnt reduce the CD of the skill that is used to interrupt a foe - ICD prevents it to be triggered more then twice with gwell - Added RNG factor Fervent Force: Disabling a foe reduces the cooldown of all of your equipped skills (by 2s) Disables includes stun, daze, …, taunt and fear Recharge Time: 2s ICD: 1/4s - Will be triggered even with daze - Resets ALL skills including utility and elite - No restrictions at all For me personally it really feels like they had an idea for chaotic interruption but the new trait was so nicely working that they just added it to one of the new especs to give them something unique instead of using the new version on mesmer. Because, to be honest, Fervent Force is how chaotic interruption should be, if you ask me. It truly bothers me that once more things like this get outsourced to other classes while mesmer has a dead GM trait since years. I mean it was never a good trait to begin with but apparently it could have been. And it truly bothers me that in special interrupt related things get added to other classes while it is one of the last identity’s this class has beside the obvious ones. It leaves such a bad taste when other classes get new traits and skills to do the exact same thing as your class can and at the same time mesmer gets negated or even worse receives nerfs in special to those traits and skills to make sure it is worse in those aspects. The best time I had with this game was before HoT but since the add ones can’t be undone I would say right after the phantasm change was one of the most interesting times. You had so much choices and the combat was much more fluently then it is now with all those restrictions implemented. It’s like you play a totally different game now. I still can’t believe how this could have happened but then I remember all the fan boys cheering for the Bad changes till it went to truly unenjoyable experience it is now. Latest example is this nonsense „bring the player not the class“ vision or what ever it is. Perfect Chrono wells add again alacrity, we have so much more variety in PvP now, it’s amazing /s I wonder why no one is coming up with some amazing builds…

No, Chaos should never have condition damage. It should be based around utility and used regardless of power, condition or support. That Chaos adds condition damage is just because a dev didn’t like axe and wanted to play staff Mirage with alacrity.

From a PvP / WvW point of view - Chaotic interruption should finally be made acceptable again. What we have now is a place holder and doesn’t really function. And the random factor on it is just terrible. It needs definitely a rework. - Delayed reactions should be buffed. 1,5s of slow on a daze means 0,5s effective slow time. That’s not acceptable. - Danger time should be looked at. After the nerf it feels more like a minor trait and not a major trait. It just isn’t rewarding to take it and the duration is so low you feel in such a hurry to dish out at least one skill in this time that you always combine it with gs wombo combo and mantra of distraction. And if danger time really needs to be bound to slow then chrono has in general way to clunky possibility’s to apply slow without delayed reactions combined with mantra of distraction. It definitely needs another effect on activation and a longer duration. - Weapon skills in general should be buffed. It’s a huge problem that specific weapons are only for specific alignments. Staff shouldn’t be taken only from condi builds. Scepter shouldn’t be taken only from condi builds. These days the choices are to one dimensional. Number changes for the beginning are the least and tbh those skills just hit like a wett noodle on power builds. Lot of Phantasms need urgently buffs. - Staff 3 received 2x 50% nerfs, the summoning of 3x chaos Stroms was deleted and the effect to deal more damage with every condition on the enemy was deleted. It lost every identity and is only a clone spawner now. - When you take focus you have to „trade“ a extremely bad phantasm for a pull. It feels like a punishment to take focus because of this. The phantasm is in this case mostly or only used to spawn a clone. - Same Case with Torch 5. It feels so random and is terrible for power builds in this state even with the daze. More often is the use of it to just spawn a clone then due to its actual effect. - Sword 5 is okeyish beside the pathing problem. But it could be a nice touch to have a port instead of a leap or a buff to sword 4 to compensate the relatively underwhelming effect of sword 5. Sword offhand is just still to underwhelming outside of PvE. - Chaos armor needs some love and with this also chaotic transference. It is such a bad design to place this trait on the same row as chaotic potency, while staff is the only weapon that actually HAS chaos armor as weapon skill. - And it is such a bad design to add condition damage on both skills, chaotic transference and chaotic potency. It deletes every diversity in chaos and pushes power builds further into specific trait lines. This really has to be changed again. Due to the design of staff with staff 4, chaos armor enhancements and staff skill enhancements have to be on the same trait or different rows AND need to provide utility not power or condition damage in my opinion. - If ANet would work on the combo finishers in general, chrono could get a whole new depth in terms of build diversity and could make some interesting bruiser builds with staff sword shield or pistol, wells and interrupt traits. Plus it could finally bring back the combo with pistol and focus, would buff indirectly staff 4 and gave wells another purpose then just being a alacrity applier on use. - The skills in general need urgently more depth. After all those years ANet took out to many effects and pushed weapons, traits and skills to only one specific purpose. Be it due to traits that no longer provide effects to specific skills or due to the skills itself being nerfed. You do not have to combine smartly traits so that A fits to C instead of B because there is no trait or skill that supports this decision.

”I haven’t played ranger, so I’m operating based on GW2Wiki here”

And more important, that a specific devs enjoys it: “Frankly, that’s why I made staff (mesmer) good. I hated using axe (mirage)” “Kits (engi) are terrible in modern gw2” ”My desire for Vindicator was to have a spec that could squarely fit a straight forward power dps role. […] The designer creating it (vindi) had a strong vision for a hybride mechanic based around the alliance legend […] The initial beta feedback on it is what allowed me to request very specific changes to that mechanic” Edit: or is doing balance changes without any knowledge about the class in general: ”I haven’t played ranger, so I’m operating based on GW2Wiki here”

You said I would have missed your response to something so I was respectful enough to try to look it up and now after I looked for your last post you come up with “why can’t you read my mind”? Maybe you mean the discord leak? Like how am I supposed to know what you mean. Well look, we have an occasion that proves you wrong after you gave this statement from you. I point it out. Why do you think you can give those statements if they are clearly just wrong to begin with. You are actually giving the impression that everyone who is complaining is actual wrong instead of you which is even more harmful then you think. After the discord leak it’s even more obvious what is going on behind the curtain. ”Frankly, that’s why I made (Mesmer) staff good. I hated using (Mirage) Axe”

More or less. I make statements according to my experience with this company over the past 10 (17) years. You with 2 years experience and no knowledge about the time before. I’m to 99% sure those are all balance changes that will be shipped out. And if not then it will be the first time in 4 years that they add more then minor changes after the balance patch preview. Most likely they have meant that bug fixes and NPC fixes and stuff like that will be added to the notes afterwards. Yeah yeah. This is again something similar like your strawman some post before. You know this is not true, I know this is not true. I just want my stuff back and will give accordingly feedback if they delete game content. And tbh again an pure insult considering how long I am already here providing feedback to balance patches. If you mean the 2 dodge mirage discussion. Indeed. And we already had this discussion here for years and a good amount of people, so as me, would prefer to revert the nerfs, which have been carried out because of 2 dodge mirage, instead of giving a second doge back. But again this is something we agreed long time ago and even suggested it here more then once. Instead we got alac mirage.. Idk man. We had the lowest common denominator attitude here. I personally am not willed for compromises anymore. It went already to far and this game misses to much. Same Team is relatively spoken then since the most patches got celebrated from to many people while it deleted our stuff. But maybe finally the community notices that it is a pile of garbage which gets rolled out every 6 month by canal rats. That was not the point. The point is You denounce every person who has spent a lot of time in the past giving a company feedback to their product, while exactly the the opposite is happening to, now, chrono of what you are giving away from you. Because the whole community agreed on chrono being absolute kitten.

This wasn’t exactly my point here but nice to hear your point of view too. The thing is you are talking about that the community first has to admit the real state of mesmer, while the whole community knows how bad of a play chrono is and still, chrono receives the most ridiculous changes. Maybe I’m gambling but considering the past nothing will happen to those changes. They will be shipped as they are written down. Best example is virtuoso, where they had 6 month to adjust. And tbh I can not think of a reason why they should leave out a larger amount of patch notes. Oh but this is not everything. Those notes will not only be implemented as they are. They will not be touched for minimum of 2 years now. You don’t believe me? The most mandatory thing, IP, was given back to chrono after min. 2 years after they deleted it. There is no chance the will spend resources on something that is not even remotely as important as IP. This is also something. Yes you expected it but honestly, everyone here was expecting nothing at all because that’s how ANet is now. It just shows that you are not even remotely familiar with the past of this game which makes some things you say to basically an insult to the people who are in year 4 of patches that delete game content: and the worst part is you do not even understand that chrono lost again some builds. Welcome to the new GW2 🙂

MesmerDuelingMaster Fencer: => Straight nerf to Power Mesmer VirtuosoQuiet Intensity:Bladesong Sorrow: => I don’t care ChronomancerSeize the Moment: => It’s okeyish but considering we lose Quickness on Shield 5 again and now has to be traited is a bitter taste. Lost Time: Stretched Time: => Band aid fix for wells, which has to be traited. ANet just lied when saying they want to fix wells. It makes the situation even worse since considering the past this will be the status of wells for another 2 or more years. They are still not only useless they handicap you if you consider taking them in any build with no streched time traited. => I just now noticed with the change of LostTime they also nerfed a huge part of the utility rupter chrono they wanted with Chaotic Interruption and Vicious Expression. ShieldTides of Time: => The swifness Part is a little bit meh but I like the might. With Size the moment it could do some nice things but tbh chrono was the last espec that needed more burst on its wombo combo. Overall every build of chrono loses something important cause alac or quickness now have to be traited. Bad change. WellsWell of Action: => Why would someone stay inside the well for super speed? This doesn’t make any sense at all. We had Super Speed on glamour. You deleted it and now give it back on the end tick of a well? Lmao Well of Recall: => This is again a change to a more and more passive combat playstyle. Like seriously who is in charge for such things? All in all disappointing as always. ANet deletes every source of quickness and Alacrity from Chronomancer and push those two boons in 2 separate GM traits. Alacrity is now liked to wells, which still require you to stand inside till they end to receive the full effects of them. The effects of the wells itself getting worse and worse to a point you handicap yourself taking them. The change to Lost time also deletes every chance to receive alacrity without extremely clunky skills and therefore deletes all access to alacrity in PvP. Furthermore this change directly nerfs the utility rupter build in WvW with vicious expression and chaotic interruption, making the build variety for mesmer in WvW even smaller. PLUS you destroy once again synergy in the top chrono traitline itself AND other traitlines by deleting another GM trait dedicated to interrupt which effects every interrupt build, dedicated to small scale and Zerg fights. This patch is another nerf to chronomancer, core and virtuoso and deletes even more variety of this game. You should really think about the changes and if you not want to delay them. The changes you provide at the very moment and in the past 4 years made this game to a stall and bland experience. The build diversity is not given anymore because with every patch you rip out skills, traits and mechanics and delete the thoughts of the original dev team irrevocable. Synergies between traits, skills, mechanics and more important between classes go over board. Instead of builds you just play condi/power/Support + Core/Chrono/Mirage/Virtuoso because all other traits in that line and other traitlines are useless for the purpose of the specific thing you want to achieve. And if you really have the choice between two traits those traits are already behind a 4 years nerf marathon and affecting your build so marginal that it really doesn’t matter at all which trait you take. This game has lost something again with this patch.

They indeed deleted 2 options (well of action and tides of time) but gave tides of time through the trait back. (Typical ANet balance) and yes, apparently without traits chrono now has basically 0 source for group quickness beside Time Warp.

After thinking about it, what is missing in the patch notes is the change to rune of chronomancer. Would be odd the leave it like it is when they want that wells are for alacrity. Maybe we should not talk about it in the forums. Hopefully they will forget it as incompetent as they are and chrono still is the one class with alac and quickness 😛

ArenaNet you are removing right now pice by pice every single bit that makes gw2 unique. Stop this madness! You are destroying this game entirely at the very moment.

@Waffles.5632 soo my dear, you talk about changes can first happen when the community admits the real state of mesmer? Another key component for builds like an interrupt chrono got deleted. I lost with another patch another build. Would you like to elaborate how the heck does this even remotely comes close of what you are talking here?

I feel like the same. We getting changes sold as buffs but at the end of the day we have less to take and less variety in build diversity. Chrono rupter in general is smiter booned now and we have lost the synergy between 3 traits. I thought the top line was dedicated to interrupt. Now danger time got heavily nerfed, lost time is not available anymore and the 1,5s slow on an interrupt are worthless anyways. This means we have now 4 dead traits in the chrono line with no real concept.

Oh true but you had shatter, shield 5, lost time and 1 well (of cause the well should not be taken to serious but it should be improved not completely deleted). And even if lost time was bad, it was the only sources left to trigger alacrity reliable in group plays. How is a chrono now supposed to generate enough alactrity in group play without this? What is with the trait Improved alacrity? This trait seriously only improves now shatters if the GM was not taken. I have so many questions now to the devs. This made everything much worse for me personally 😞

Idk. No Alactrity for PvP chrono anymore. It nerfed directly a WvW build (the utility boon strip rupter, even if it was a meme build anyways). Nerf to Core. No source of Alacrity or Quickness anymore if not traited. Quickness on Shield 5 has to be traited now. Wells got worse if not traited.

Ehhhm serious question. How does chrono now receive alacrity without wells? Am I correct when saying there is now only shatters with alacrity or am I missing something? Have they seriously deleted all sources of Alacrity and Quickness from chrono?

MesmerDuelingMaster Fencer: => Straight nerf to Power Mesmer VirtuosoQuiet Intensity:Bladesong Sorrow: => I don’t care ChronomancerSeize the Moment: => It’s okeyish but considering we lose Quickness on Shield 5 again and now has to be traited is a bitter taste. Lost Time: Stretched Time: => Band aid fix for wells, which has to be traited. ANet just lied when saying they want to fix wells. It makes the situation even worse since considering the past this will be the status of wells for another 2 or more years. They are still not only useless they handicap you if you consider taking them in any build with no streched time traited. => I just now noticed with the change of LostTime they also nerfed a huge part of the utility rupter chrono they wanted with Chaotic Interruption and Vicious Expression. A lot of people in this forum told me this is a meta build lol. No one of them is complaining now huh? Wasn’t so meta apparently. ShieldTides of Time: => The swifness Part is a little bit meh but I like the might. With Size the moment it could do some nice things but tbh chrono was the last espec that needed more burst on its wombo combo. Overall every build of chrono loses something important cause alac or quickness now have to be traited. Bad change. WellsWell of Action: => Why would someone stay inside the well for super speed? This doesn’t make any sense at all. We had Super Speed on glamour. You deleted it and now give it back on the end tick of a well? Lmao Well of Recall: => This is again a change to a more and more passive combat playstyle. Like seriously who is in charge for such things? All in all disappointing as always. I could write more but apparently mesmer is fine and doesn’t need anything. /s

This is basically what I think has happened over the years with all ESpecs of mesmer. Every ESpec got basically pushed to just be the ESpec instead of providing several different options. You also do not discuss builds anymore you just discuss if condi/power/Support core/chrono/mirage/virtuoso is viable and not if build XY is viable. There are no alignments anymore, just the ESpec itself as defining choice. But people still tell in the forums Mesmer is fine so no chance to get back to better days.

Product gets deleted. Company actively denies the community. You get told to not be so negative in the forums. What a world.

- Virt nerf to damage output in pve. - Scepter nerf (I’m gambling but since Virt has a strong F2…) - Some nonsense you have never thought about to make the patch notes look longer (like increase cd for mimic) Edit: - see you in 6 to 12 month

GW2 PvE can be done in only green EQ or even naked. Don’t pull a comparison with a PvE game when we talk about PvP. And yes it does matter how you play. That you deny it underlines perfectly why you are just wrong. But why even defending it when you said here that it was „a trap you did“: strawman lol no one ever said anything remotely in this regards. Slowly I begin to believe that you are just driving a movie here „I am vs all others“ Apparently you are the only one here that is proud of a match rate of 1 match / day while you lose every second match PLUS all tiers below gold3 are full of bots. How are your stats supposed to be meaningful in any way. But you provided us with your understanding of Win rates: And by your logic it’s pure luck to win tournaments lol. Btw. FCB has a winrate of 70%. Draw of 14% and lose 14% if you really want to start compare to real sports. But okey, maybe you are just a good player, is this what you want to hear? Then take this advice> skill clicking is not efficient. Learn to use keyboard or extra keys on your mouse. Maybe you can reach something then. For someone who already played rupter ranger and mesmer in gw1 I am shocked. There will be the day you look to this moment back and think: “What have I talked for a kitten here” No one thinks that that you are pro, don’t worry. Anyways, you are fully right, you deserve to have fun. It’s all yours. But saying Mirage has crazy PvP potential to people who lost already like 5 or more builds (only on mirage) is like listening to a new intern, seriously. We are already behind the point where it was effective in PvP. We are at the 3. or 4. year of nerfs. You are right now the one pressuring a community to like something which is clearly just the light version of the light version of this spec. It’s like we drove a Ferrari and are now provided with a Trabi. Of cause people who have never seen a car will think a Trabi is perfectly fine since it can drive on roads but this is not the expection of the community. And don’t start again with this kitten Mirage is B to A tier. To come once back to a comment of yours: You say Core is A tier and Condi Virt is A+ tier. I am seriously questioning your credibility here with this comment. As if just buffing some numbers would help with this mess to lift them to S tier. What mesmer needs is it’s key-effects back to provide healthy not half kittened skills and traits. If you don’t get it because you haven’t experienced the old versions I think an perfect example here is Portal: 1. Portal was a mesmer only skill with 60s duration, background recharge and 72s cooldown. 2. Now you always thought hm it’s a little bit odd that only mesmer has Portal BUT only Portal made mesmer to a considerable alternative vs thief. (And personally i think such differences in classes that should fullfill a similar role to balance them out is the highest form a balance. This is how balance should be in reality. Creative, complex, it offers variety and creates a dynamic environment) 3. Then ANet came to the conclusion thief also needs a portal. 4. So they nerfed the duration of Mesmer portal to 30s and deleted background recharge. 5. Now they added portal to thief. Gave it background recharge and a 60s duration and 60s cooldown. 6. Now thief portal is by far better then mesmer portal and since the change you have like never used mesmer portal again. And if you do, like this is only one specific skill. No, similar things happened to 60 skills, traits and mechanics. Buffing some damage numbers is not helping here at all. The class itself is non existing anymore. Or look at Aegis on Shatter for Virt. We had blind on shatters for core which got deleted and made core slowly unbearable. Now they added a similar but downgraded effect 4 years later and the new players are like „wow such balance, much wow“ while CORE is missing this crucial defense entirely. It changed a active fighting style into a passive fighting style. And this is only one example. There are tenth of examples for this. Jazz has written whole pages regards this occurring issue. And it is at a point not remotely acceptable anymore. You can change numbers as much as you want, heck give me an auto attack that crits for 20k this is not considered the kind of thing which is the key problem here. No arguments? I am not the first here to tell you we are far past the argumentation stage. AND tbh this is an pure insult of a newcomer. This community has written more then 1000 pages in this forum and discussed hundred of different ideas and outcomes. Jazz, one of the most experienced mesmer players out there atm, contacted CMC directly and has TALKED with him personally for hours. CMC even wanted a manifest of what the community thinks has to be changed. We have argumented an uncountable amount of pages what should be in this letter. We have a idk how many pages long letter which WE have together set up, and jazz has written it and send it to ANet directly. We have discussed Virt in all its forms for pages. And nothing has happened. And with WE I mean NOT YOU. Tell me please where have you been when we did that? And now AGAIN someone comes here and says, there are no arguments? It’s very exhausting to explain something to people who have not experienced the days before the „big hunt“ but I gave you an example with portal. If you really need more I will write you an detailed wall of text of everything we have lost over the past years and why it makes mesmer to this nonsense it is right now. After 10 years of downgrades I came to the conclusion that people like you are the root cause of the problem. ANet listened to often to people who came to this game and thought they know it better. We recently lost AGAIN a crucial skill for chrono support (and it was added to another class). It’s ridiculous that we lose every single patch crucial skills traits and mechanics and people still come up with mesmer is fine. I mean what is going on here? By this logic we should already switch the skill set to the one we have in super adventure box. On the high times of this mess I had to rebuild every patch 2-4 armor Sets because the ones I used have been obsolete by the time the patch dropped. And I’m done because i can’t play my builds anymore. Not only because they are not viable anymore. Because they are deleted or smiterbooned. I CANT PLAY MY KITTEN ANYMORE GET IT IN YOUR HEAD

Oh well, it was more a question. I cannot remember anymore either. Maybe I’m fantasizing something together but I thought I remembered. It is so rare that they bring real balance patches that it’s kinda always a new experience 😅

It doesn’t matter what any of those players think or say. What they say is just false. Mesmer has received round about 60 critical changes with only negative impact to traits. And only a minority of those changes have been 50% nerf. Most of those changes just deleted whole effects, skills, traits and mechanics. Core Mesmer has less then to vanilla times. Anyone coming to this game pretending mesmer is fine doesn’t know kitten about this game, period. And that you have to explain to someone why clicking skills with a curser is just bad gameplay. It’s like the new intern at work that knows it better, because he has watched this one specific YouTube video and then programmed an arduino… once… without any object orientation… to let LEDs blink.