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When you make these ridiculous claims it just shows how subjective this issue is. Condi does not burst. You can cleanse it even while CC'd with passive abilities like cleansing sigil. In groups you don't even need to do anything! Your supports literally spam cleanse all around you! Maybe we need another screenshot of a player dying to 300 ticks of burning to demonstrate how little our player base knows what they're complaining about? THats not enterilly true, every one now is condi in WvW and i can burst with some condis.... 2 condis to be exactly, one burst due people dont notice and walk the other is overperforminc easilly, and note some groups runing 2-3 draogn banners just to kill 5-10 players where they are still a bit more or similiar numbers. Not every one plays within the coverege of 20 engies nor play classes that can run away from combat at minimal pressure. Running full trailblazer fire weaver my burns deal about 340 dps per stack. How many stacks before you can call that "burst" damage? The passive application people frequently complain about like primordial stance, lava skin, and fire aura all have 1-2s duration on burn application. Hitting 10+ burn stacks only happens with setup and only after wearing down an opponent's defenses (and they can still stunbreak, cleanse, invuln, heal, or resistance their way out of it!). This is not "burst" unless you are a potato, in which case power will burst you far quicker anyway!To illustrate the point: Look at how much damage Mur deals. He is chunking my health repeatedly for 5-6k crits (and this is considered an underpowered spec, mind you!)! It's only because I absorb some of those shots with barrier from stone resonance that I'm not dead. I've applied some conditions here and there, but he's cleansing pretty effectively and you can see I am only chipping small amounts of health away from him despite the fact that he is almost certainly running berserker amulet. It's only when I catch him off guard with a nice stun which he apparently has no stunbreak for and then land a full pyrovortex for the finish (Note: This is the same way a power build typically finishes a fight!). Even then, he takes about as much damage over 3 seconds of stun (the third tick lands for 3.1k damage on an 8 stack burn) as I take from a single one of his crits. If he had a stunbreak handy, he would have taken negligible damage, disengaged, cleansed/healed, and went back to ripping my face off! Mur is an opponent who is out of my league and I got lucky here. But it shows that against skilled opponents condi (even the notorious burning!) is really not bursty at all. I know some builds are problematic, but this "hurr durr condi too bursty" stuff is just plain nonsense.

When you make these ridiculous claims it just shows how subjective this issue is. Condi does not burst. You can cleanse it even while CC'd with passive abilities like cleansing sigil. In groups you don't even need to do anything! Your supports literally spam cleanse all around you! Maybe we need another screenshot of a player dying to 300 ticks of burning to demonstrate how little our player base knows what they're complaining about? THats not enterilly true, every one now is condi in WvW and i can burst with some condis.... 2 condis to be exactly, one burst due people dont notice and walk the other is overperforminc easilly, and note some groups runing 2-3 draogn banners just to kill 5-10 players where they are still a bit more or similiar numbers. Not every one plays within the coverege of 20 engies nor play classes that can run away from combat at minimal pressure.Running full trailblazer fire weaver my burns deal about 340 dps per stack. How many stacks before you can call that "burst" damage? The passive application people frequently complain about like primordial stance, lava skin, and fire aura all have 1-2s duration on burn application. Hitting 10+ burn stacks only happens with setup and only after wearing down an opponent's defenses (and they can still stunbreak, cleanse, invuln, heal, or resistance their way out of it!). This is not "burst" unless you are a potato, in which case power will burst you far quicker anyway!

who said i have low DPS, i surely didn't. which is the problem of this game and it needs to change. if something can only succeed with max DPS then it's not fun at all, it's a job to work hard for which isn't my kind of fun.fun is when ppl can join up, play the raid and have a jolly time.if ppl only care about success and a speedy clear then again, something is horribly wrong and needs to be changed.Nobody said you can only succeed with max DPS. They said you can't succeed without a minimum of DPS. How is that a problem with the game? Do you propose bosses that don't take damage by conventional means? Is it a raid boss or a puzzle we're fighting here? Maybe they can come up with some super cool raid concept nobody's ever seen before, like...fighting a dragon from the deck of an airship by shooting it with cannons! Yeah! That'd be innovative!

You should take a look at my thread on open world fire weaver builds. It has plenty of video, discussion, and build links. https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/107218/open-world-domination-fire-weaver#latest

When you make these ridiculous claims it just shows how subjective this issue is. Condi does not burst. You can cleanse it even while CC'd with passive abilities like cleansing sigil. In groups you don't even need to do anything! Your supports literally spam cleanse all around you! Maybe we need another screenshot of a player dying to 300 ticks of burning to demonstrate how little our player base knows what they're complaining about?

How silly of everyone to question the need for these changes rather than simply accepting your premise as a universal truth and green lighting your idea!

I run carrion amulet in PvP and condi whiners still whine about condi. What gives?

I have been playing a bit with lightning flash and it does seem good. I like that it can be used offensively as a surprise gap closer or defensively, when I eat a stun and my no-stunbreak build feels a little inadequate! I think I might stick with this for a bit. I do like having it!

Sure! It's all good. I just like to fight good competition. Fighting players I can beat but that can also beat me is usually the most fun!

Hey! I was looking through some video and I found some of our fights!

It looks like we run pretty much the same build. I've been running carrion, but that's really more just a whim. Sage is probably the better choice, and I ran that until recently. I have a good bit of barrier on this build with the capability to take even more with bolstered elements. I feel like my healing is pretty good either way, but Sage amulet probably has better synergy with this build due to the increase in barrier. I think I just liked the idea of feeling more aggressive, if that makes sense? Thanks for suggesting lightning flash. I think you may be right about that and I will have to give it a try. I could really use a gap closer/emergency save on a reasonable cooldown. I like the big long range burn on signet. It's a little unexpected when you're running around, trying to stay out of melee range and the weaver stacks a big burn on you anyway! It's even better because a lot of builds will CC and burst at melee range, then retreat to range to kite at which point the first thing they usually do is cleanse. Hitting them with fire signet just as they disengage and cleanse can score some useful damage at times! But can it measure up to that teleport? I'm not so sure I've made the right choice here. I'll test it out! I apologize, but I don't actually PvP much. I have some dueling videos up just before and after patch, and it feels good to me in both cases. I feel dangerous at close range against most builds and I can usually use evasion and barrier along with CC and counter pressure to force opponents to move away from me. Meanwhile, I have pretty good projectile hate so killing me from range isn't usually feasible for most builds either. I think I could be effective here, but as conquest is about more than just dueling, I'm not sure this build would be the best way to go for climbing rank. In any event, here are some recent dueling clips against platinum rank opponents so you can see how it does against a few different builds: Spellbreaker Core guard, core ranger, scrapper: Reaper

Fire weaver bursts just fine even with pure condi (dire) stats. I just made this quick clip as a demonstration. I'm already over 10k/s by the third burn tick, peaking at 22.5k with an average DPS of 16.2k over 7 seconds against this veteran bristleback. That's bursty enough to neutralize this threat (although I toss swirling winds up to block the projectile spam anyway because why not?). I find it's pretty hard to justify running hybrid stats with my build. I've tried grieving several times, thinking there must be some way to get significant amounts of power damage with a fire/air build. But no, I just get a lot glassier and my damage stays about the same. Exception when I am getting pressured, in which case it drops off significantly! That's no bueno! So I always end up going back to stats like dire, plaguedoctor, trailblazer.

Hi! Please see my thread! It may be useful to you! https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/107218/open-world-domination-fire-weaver#latest Here's a post-patch video demo to give you an idea of what condi weaver running dire stats can do post-"nerf": I've also actually improved my best solo time against avatar of Balthazar to 0:43 at 16.2k DPS since the patch as well. So, if you are feeling discouraged about fire weaver in open world, please don't worry. You won't feel this nerf at all. Fire (sword) weaver, at least, is still basically as strong as ever for solo play in open world!

I'm actually just being lazy. I carry my WvW focus and my open world focus. Running corruption + bursting by stacking 25 and swapping to the other offhand would be a good way to go, but instead I'm stacking 25 and swapping to...cleansing sigil. It's great for roaming, but pretty useless in most open world scenarios!

I'll be looking out for you! Thank you for checking it out. You know what to do. We need more motivation. Always a pleasure to fight against a worthy opponent! I don't actually PvP much, so I'll probably see you in the lobby arena!

I didn't change the build, but the pyromancers puissance trait changed a bit and there were a couple of minor nerfs to a couple of relevant skills. The trait change may not be reflected in the skill editor, but you can see the details in release notes here on the forum. As for bursting? I haven't done the math on that. 250 condi damage sounded good to me and you can actually keep the stacks while switching to a second weapon and use a third sigil. So maybe I will play with bursting and see how it goes.

The people who actually believe that call fast gameplay "spamming" when they can't keep up. Also, hitting a button to CC and then a button to burst is a super complex magic trick.

Power meta as usual....But it's condi that's busted and a reasonable 50% nerf across the board is the obvious solution. Do you guys ever get tired of having no idea what you're talking about?

Nice video! I don't see much core rev, with herald being so popular. The burst seemed to surprise a lot of your opponents! I don't know what I'm looking at when it comes to rev, so I can't speak to the quality otherwise. But I have dueled you before and recognize some of your opponents, so I'm sure you're doing quite well here as far as that goes! Thanks for sharing.

I think this skin looks great! And it's very different from the beetle skins. Great job!

That's just how this game is. You can't outgear challenges, but with no trinity in place it's possible for a skilled player to solo challenges that wipe groups of less-skilled players. This includes soloing entire dungeons, fractals, legendary open world bosses, etc. There are even videos of players soloing T4 fractal challenge mode bosses.

I can't speak to largescale WvW, but if you want to play it smart as a roamer, mobility and stealth are a good idea. Even if you aren't a great fighter, the ability to strike first and disengage at will can help you to both win more fights and survive when you lose! If you choose a build that more or less has to commit to killing or being killed in every engagement, it might be a frustrating experience - especially if being killed is the outcome more often than not!

Thanks! As with the fractal video, I'm not suggesting this is going to be meta. In fact, I expect that it works better in duels than it does in actual games played against players of this caliber. But so what? I like what I like! I've been experimenting with this setup since the patch was announced. The idea is to add some cover condi to (hopefully!) get a little more life out of my burn stacks. http://gw2skills.net/editor/?PGgAw2lZweYXMJmJOyXZvaA-zZoOjIlAZqAc7A As long as you’re having fun, that’s what matters! What about wvw? Would you still run carrion and mirage rune? It's been a bit since I did any WvW and I am strictly a roamer, so I don't recommend this for zerg play. But I favor a combination of Trailblazer and Dire for WvW like I do in open world. I would probably either run Mirage rune like I do in PvP or Balthazar rune like I do in PvE. But sometimes I like to take speed runes for WvW, since so many of the builds I come across as a roamer have high mobility and like to kite. Just wanted to stop by and say THANK You! Finally have a fireweaver build I’m having success with in both ranked pvp and roaming wvw! Always loved the theme of sword weaver but could never make it work. So glad you posted this and have been providing updates throughout. Cheers!That's super cool! I'm glad you found the right build! I feel you on weaver. I tried to make it work several times in the past, but it just never clicked for me until this year. Now I'm having a hard time finding anything else I like better!

U dont need market proof to see that population declining, playing the game etc is far better indicator than having un proven numbers thrown at u.Do you actually play? Open world is teeming with players, including a ton of new/returning players since the lockdowns began. The PvP population is too small, but based upon the only metric we have (the leaderboard), doesn't appear to be in any better or worse shape than it has been for some time. Currently, we find ourselves mid-season and the top 250 stretches down to low plat 1. As we approach the end, that bar will rise toward the top of plat 1. As far as I know, this is pretty much how it's been since I've been playing (HoT). WvW? That's hard to say. It needs more people as well, but is it shrinking? I don't see how we could know that it is.

Why didn't you just wait 4 seconds? Do you also burst into a block and then complain how much trash the game is? Bronze division issues. Btw.: I doubt you did 20k dps in pvp. Definition of "Tanky": I take a glass 1-shot build into PvP and then wonder why my opponents always dodge my burst and then counter my face off! definition of tanky, I take 3 dps traitlines, enemy facetanks every single ability in my kit and still lives.I'm not saying tanky builds don't exist. But the "20k dps vs. a daredevil" thing pretty much tells you all you need to know about this particular case.