Buran.3796 Posted December 4, 2021 Author Share Posted December 4, 2021 ^ Which lost quickness on Shiro (IO), the burst AoE damage on the legend swap, the vulnerability stacks on Burst of Strength (and the vuln procs from all traits), the damage in Chaotic Release and Drop the Hammer, which saw CoR turned from a 2s cd tracking attack which hit hard into a 8s which doesn't track, interrupts itself if you walk a bit lateraly/backwards while casting it and hits like a dusty towell... Power Herald is a +1 teamfighter in PvP, at which lacks the sustain to solo most of the other meta clases, and in WvW is a glass cannon mele fighter with no access to stability and poor cleansing abilities, which faces buffed foes running celestial and trailblazer stats and elusive classes with tons of ranged pressure and freely access to stealth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jthug.9506 Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 Sounds like a lot of good reasons to keep GS5 strong. 😇 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krysard.1364 Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 On 11/25/2021 at 10:58 PM, Buran.3796 said: This is exclusively related to WvW/PvP. Then why you base your argument on how fast it can kill some random mob?? Burn guard needs nerf cause it kills svanir rly fast x) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puck.3697 Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 (edited) On 11/30/2021 at 11:48 PM, Buran.3796 said: But this is not about PvE, this is about the crap damage power Revenant builds do at PvP/WvW, while also being usually very frail to condition damage You are aware both the meta herald and renegade builds currently are both power builds right? Lol. The current renegade you see dominating in high level play and very much meta is a power build running berserker ? It's Condi revenant that lost its representation a while back 😂 In PvE we are very much lacking a power option. However in PvP we are lacking a Condi option (not that it rly bothers me) Vindicators cool sure, but given the fact we have herald and renegade means it's not the end of the world if it doesn't become meta in spvp given it is another power build. Edited December 4, 2021 by Daddy.8125 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buran.3796 Posted December 4, 2021 Author Share Posted December 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Daddy.8125 said: You are aware both the meta herald and renegade builds currently are both power builds right? Lol. In PvP, of course: organized teams usually runs some kind of support with shared cleanses which makes condi builds much less effective, and strike damage instead can't be cleansed. But the same Renebow build which uses berserker or demolisher amulets in PvP usually runs any mix of trailblazer/dire/viper/grieving stats as a WvW roamer instead, because both the stats available in WvW are much stronger and provide damage + tankiness in a way not present in PvP, a also because random roamers or small groups oftenly don't run organized teams in which there's a support role, and condi builds work better when everyone uses selfish loadouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradoxoglanis.1904 Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 10 hours ago, Buran.3796 said: ^ Which lost quickness on Shiro (IO), the burst AoE damage on the legend swap, the vulnerability stacks on Burst of Strength (and the vuln procs from all traits), the damage in Chaotic Release and Drop the Hammer, which saw CoR turned from a 2s cd tracking attack which hit hard into a 8s which doesn't track, interrupts itself if you walk a bit lateraly/backwards while casting it and hits like a dusty towell... Power Herald is a +1 teamfighter in PvP, at which lacks the sustain to solo most of the other meta clases, and in WvW is a glass cannon mele fighter with no access to stability and poor cleansing abilities, which faces buffed foes running celestial and trailblazer stats and elusive classes with tons of ranged pressure and freely access to stealth. sounds like a l2p problem, or you just think rev should be a +1 teamfighter sidenoder bunker. maybe watch some old MATs or streams and try learning a thing or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeolus.3615 Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 (edited) On 12/1/2021 at 5:09 AM, Zenith.7301 said: (snip) Archemorus feels absolutely mediocre as a DPS legend for power specs, and Shiro was already mediocre to begin with. Arch spear needs to loose its torment aplyance and make a 100% crit under certain circuntances something like: If caster has stability spear casts X% faster If targets meets certain conditions Spear will crit 100% if its on a KD/KB/disabled targets will also do more X% damage. Edited December 4, 2021 by Aeolus.3615 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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