If they want Mesmer viable in zergs, they should have...

[DanAlcedo.3281]

Made a spec with Ground targeted Shatters. 

Sure, giving mesmer Ground targeted AoE is very much needed to be useful (other then the awesome utility) but putting them on the right side of the bar makes no sense. 

Mesmer always had amazing utility skills for Wvw but lacks good weapons and class mechanic to complement them. 

Making Gro. Tar. Shatters would fix that problem in one swoop. 

Now add a nice MH weapon to combo with the already awesome focus and you are basically done. 

 

[Levetty.1279]

Your mistake was presuming they would want to make Mesmer good in a competitive mode.

[Lethion.8745]

They don't want to. Case closed.

 

53 minutes ago, Levetty.1279 said:

Your mistake was presuming they would want to make Mesmer good in a competitive mode.

 

Yeah. -

[Nezekan.2671]

The shatters should have been unblockable. Why does DHs peasant made chain gets to be unblockable but blades made out of pure mind power that can actually pierce not unblockable? You can will them to be material or ethereal any time you wish. It's probably the thing that makes the most sense to be unblockable. It doesn't exists unless the mesmer wills it to exist, so puny barriers can't stop it.

Shatters being unblockable will bring Virtuoso viability to the same level of DPS Dragonhunter, it won't even be OP. They have a cast time and a travel time, and can be avoided by dodging or simply moving away.

Edited March 28, 2022 by Nezekan.2671

[Mik.3401]

But in all honesty anything is viable in zergs really as long as you have ranged pressure and can hit many targets if needed, it’s like the most monkey gameplay one can choose and excel on by auto attacking. Even GS can do the job with its instant 1200 hits and berserker.

 

 

[Lethion.8745]

1 hour ago, Nezekan.2671 said:

The shatters should have been unblockable. Why does DHs peasant made chain gets to be unblockable but blades made out of pure mind power that can actually pierce not unblockable? You can will them to be material or ethereal any time you wish. It's probably the thing that makes the most sense to be unblockable. It doesn't exists unless the mesmer wills it to exist, so puny barriers can't stop it.

Shatters being unblockable will bring Virtuoso viability to the same level of DPS Dragonhunter, it won't even be OP. They have a cast time and a travel time, and can be avoided by dodging or simply moving away.

They can be unblockable with Psychic Ripotse but entirely rellying on enemies to get that bonus is... not good. If no one attacks you or you die instantly, you will never make use of it (which bot are very likely in WvW)

[Suyheuti.1732]

32 minutes ago, Lethion.8745 said:

They can be unblockable with Psychic Ripotse but entirely rellying on enemies to get that bonus is... not good. If no one attacks you or you die instantly, you will never make use of it (which bot are very likely in WvW)

That is virtuoso trait. What about chrono and mirage shatters? 

 

Btw I totally agree about shatters should be unblockable. 

 

[Nezekan.2671]

Yes, they should be unblockable period and by default. They have a cast time AND travel time. There is ample opportunity to avoid them. But if you are hit, you must be hit.

Edited March 28, 2022 by Nezekan.2671