Kuma.1503 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 (edited) "Missile Weapons" is very misleading wording. The way it actually works: Aim Assisted Rocket only procs on projectiles. It does not matter if the projectile does damage or not. It does not matter if your weapon is melee or ranged. If you fire a projectile. You get a rocket. You no longer need to crit to land rockets. This is a buff to condi builds with A-AR. Here's a quick run down of what fires missles and what doesn't. Rifle RIfle Burst ✅ Net Shot ✅ Overcharged Shot ✅ Jump shot 🚫 Pistol Fragmentation Shot ✅ Poison Dart Volley ✅ Static Shot ✅ Blowtorch 🚫 Glue Shot ✅ Shield Magnetic Shield 🟡(if you reflect a projectile) Static Shield (Toss) ✅ Mace Energizing Slam 🚫 Rocket Fist Prototype ✅ Hammer 🚫Cannot fire missles*** Electro Whirl 🟡(If you perform a whirl finisher it will shoot a rocket) Sword Sun Edge/Sun Ripper/Gleam Saber 🚫 Refraction Cutter ✔️ (Yes but only the projectiles) Radiant Arc 🚫 Elixir Gun Tranquilizer Dart ✅ Glob Shot ✅ Fumigate 🚫 Acid Bomb 🚫 Super Elixir ✅(Yes, you can now snipe kills with super elixir) Renewing Mist 🚫 Grenade Kit ✅ Everything works Bomb Kit 🚫Cannot fire missles Flamethrower Flame Jet: 🚫 Flame Blast ✅ Air Blast 🚫 Napalm ✅ Smoke Vent 🚫 Incendiary Ammo 🟡(This is just a buff) Toolkit Smack/Whack/Thwack 🚫 Box of Legos 🚫 Prybar 🚫 Gear Shield 🚫 Magnet: 🚫 Throw Wrench ✅ Med Kit Med Blaster 🚫 Bandage Blast: ❓(???) (This only works sometimes. It doesn't fire missles, but will occasionally launch an orbital strike at the player's location) Cleansing FIeld: 🚫 Vital Blast 🚫 Infusion Bomb 🚫 Holo Forge Light Strike/ Bright Slash/ Flash Cutter ✔️(Only with Crystal Configuration: Storm) Holo Leap 🚫 Corona(virus) Burst: 🚫 Photon Blitz ✅ Holographic Shockwave 🚫 Jade Mech Core Reactor Shot ✔️(Only works with Ranged Mech Sky Circus ✔️(Only works with Ranged Mech) Rocket Punch ✔️(Only works with Ranged Mech) Jade Mortar ✔️(Only works with Ranged Mech) Whirl Finishers ✅ (Yup, even healing bolts) Utilities and Toolbelts FInally a quick list of all utilities and toolbelts that can fire missiles Throw Rock (Elixir X Transformation) Launch Photon Wall Particle Accelerator (Photon Wall Toolbelt) Launch Personal Battering Ram Blade Burst Throw Mine (Not the detonation. If the mine lands on someone) Hidden Pistol (Charr racial) Hidden Pistols (Charr racial toolbelt ) Charrzooka (all skills except Rocket Jump. The missles fired have the same visual as the Aim Assisted Rocket) All Toss Elixir Skills Net Attack (Net Turret Toolbelt) Napalm (Flame Turret Toolbelt) Surprise Shot (Rifle Turret Toolbelt) Edited August 8, 2022 by Kuma.1503 2 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylvi.8372 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Really appreciate this, thank you! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghos.1326 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Kuma.1503 said: "Missile Weapons" is very misleading wording. The way it actually works: Aim Assisted Rocket only procs on projectiles. It does not matter if the projectile does damage or not. It does not matter if your weapon is melee or ranged. If you fire a projectile. You get a rocket. You no longer need to crit to land rockets. This is a buff to condi builds with A-AR. Here's a quick run down of what fires missles and what doesn't. Rifle RIfle Burst ✅ Net Shot ✅ Overcharged Shot ✅ Jump shot 🚫 Pistol Fragmentation Shot ✅ Poison Dart Volley ✅ Static Shot ✅ Blowtorch 🚫 Glue Shot ✅ Hammer 🚫Cannot fire missles*** Electro Whirl 🟡(If you perform a whirl finisher it will shoot a rocket) Sword Sun Edge/Sun Ripper/Gleam Saber 🚫 Refraction Cutter ✔️ (Yes but only the projectiles) Radiant Arc 🚫 Elixir Gun Tranquilizer Dart ✅ Glob Shot ✅ Fumigate 🚫 Acid Bomb 🚫 Super Elixir ✅(Yes, you can now snipe kills with super elixir) Renewing Mist 🚫 Grenade Kit ✅ Everything works Bomb Kit 🚫Cannot fire missles Flamethrower Flame Jet: 🚫 Flame Blast ✅ Air Blast 🚫 Napalm ✅ Smoke Vent 🚫 Incendiary Ammo 🟡(This is just a buff) Toolkit Smack/Whack/Thwack 🚫 Box of Legos 🚫 Prybar 🚫 Gear Shield 🚫 Magnet: 🚫 Throw Wrench ✅ Med Kit Med Blaster 🚫 Bandage Blast: ❓(???) (This only works sometimes. It doesn't fire missles, but will occasionally launch an orbital strike at the player's location) Cleansing FIeld: 🚫 Vital Blast 🚫 Infusion Bomb 🚫 Holo Forge Light Strike/ Bright Slash/ Flash Cutter ✔️(Only with Crystal Configuration: Storm) Holo Leap 🚫 Corona(virus) Burst: 🚫 Photon Blitz ✅ Holographic Shockwave 🚫 Jade Mech Core Reactor Shot ✔️(Only works with Ranged Mech Sky Circus ✔️(Only works with Ranged Mech) Rocket Punch ✔️(Only works with Ranged Mech) Jade Mortar ✔️(Only works with Ranged Mech) Whirl Finishers ✅ (Yup, even healing bolts) Utilities and Toolbelts FInally a quick list of all utilities and toolbelts that can fire missiles Throw Rock (Elixir X Transformation) Launch Photon Wall Launch Personal Battering Ram Blade Burst Throw Mine (Not the detonation. If the mine lands on someone) Hidden Pistol (Charr racial) Hidden Pistols (Charr racial toolbelt ) Charrzooka (all skills except Rocket Jump. The missles fired have the same visual as the Aim Assisted Rocket) All Toss Elixir Skills Net Attack (Net Turret Toolbelt) Napalm (Flame Turret Toolbelt) Heck yeah brother, keep fighting the good fight! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysico.4906 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Rifle scrapper here. 450k damage last pvp match. 😀😀😀 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haenz.9578 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Would u show me your build pls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo K.9145 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Probably a dumb question but does rifle turret proc it? I assume so but didn't see it listed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuma.1503 Posted August 2, 2022 Author Share Posted August 2, 2022 23 minutes ago, Neo K.9145 said: Probably a dumb question but does rifle turret proc it? I assume so but didn't see it listed. None of the turrets can proc it, but the Rifle Toolbelt can. Forgot to list it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo K.9145 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 9 minutes ago, Kuma.1503 said: None of the turrets can proc it, but the Rifle Toolbelt can. Forgot to list it Thanks. So since I only run my mech for open world metas I guess I'll just remove rifle turret and throw the barrier signet on. Since AAR only procs every 3 seconds anyway should easily be able to get all the hits with just rifle. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hash.8462 Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 Also working: Mace #3: Rocket Fist Prototype Shield #5: Throw Shield 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greedywholesome.9081 Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 (edited) Great list. Missile and Projectile seem to be interchanged and the same goes for defensive skills. Even before this patch, I've been having fun playing zerker scrapper with hammer and mortar. Sometimes I'd use nades and rifle but yeah, this un-nerfing would benefit scrappers more than any engie elite. Sample of what it can do - it's a totally different game play than the FT and it's quite squish. We had 2 scrappers this round and his build seemed a bit more balanced and sustainable, lol. Edited August 3, 2022 by greedywholesome.9081 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yaki.9563 Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 (edited) I woke up this morning thinking about some LI flamethrower core build. Then I realized that they nerfed AAR for flamethrower with this incompetent attempt to fix it for mechanists. I'm trying hard to find a reason to not delete my Engineer to free up the slot. Edited August 7, 2022 by Yaki.9563 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderX.6591 Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 Yeah, for Flamethrower, is a big nerf............ the only range option as power now is Rifle............. Don't delete if is one of the oldest class you have, you lost the "birthday reward" items from the oldest one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtena.7952 Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 Flamethrower li build for mech is actually more dps than rifle guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yaki.9563 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 11 hours ago, ThunderX.6591 said: Yeah, for Flamethrower, is a big nerf............ the only range option as power now is Rifle............. Don't delete if is one of the oldest class you have, you lost the "birthday reward" items from the oldest one. It's only a month or so old. Sadly, I recently deleted 3 alts that were below lvl 10 that I had for 9 years before I thought about birthday rewards. Oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuma.1503 Posted August 8, 2022 Author Share Posted August 8, 2022 On 8/3/2022 at 12:45 AM, hash.8462 said: Also working: Mace #3: Rocket Fist Prototype Shield #5: Throw Shield Thanks for pointing this out. Forgot to add mace and shield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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