Received verbal abuse for needing to do map completion

[Vayne.8563]

8 hours ago, Blueberry.8095 said:

I don't know, may be because I'm sad that I get verbally abused and I want to rant a bit, or may be I really shouldn't make this post or delete it because apparently people dislike reading this.

No one likes to be abused or bullied. It's not fun. But if everyone that had this happen to them in a day all came and posted, we'd no doubt have hundreds of these posts a day. It's a small percentage of the interaction.

I've been helping new players all week and hitting things opportunely and no one has said anything to me all week. If they did, I'd block and move on.  Sorry it happened to you though.

[Zaraki.5784]

10 hours ago, Blueberry.8095 said:

I don't know, may be because I'm sad that I get verbally abused and I want to rant a bit, or may be I really shouldn't make this post or delete it because apparently people dislike reading this.

I don't dislike your post, you were right but I really suggest you to develop a harder skin: in every online game there are always a few assholes who will try to harass you and no matter what, that won't change anytime soon. 

So when they start to verbally abuse you, either report and block if you are in a hurry, or, if you have time to waste, just answer them back (which is IMO way more satisfying).

Edited August 29, 2022 by Zaraki.5784

[Crono.4197]

There are more important things in this world than listening to someone who just wants to ruin your mood for the game.

 "Stick and stones may break my bones, but words shall never hurt me!"

Be the adult here and just ignore them. The world is filled with those kind of people and we can't stop to feel sad for every one of them, bad for your health.

[soulknight.9620]

I cant belive this post is real. You got so offended that you spent loads of time making this thread and responding just to seek some attention from the community? It is mmorpg, you will play with people, you will encounter people, different people, learn to communicate with them and if needed ignore them or play a single player game. The game provides you with all of the necessary tools to deal with it - you cant be attacked in pve, u can block people, u can report people, you can change maps, you can logout. If you prefer not to use it - its your problem, not communities. Stop this "special snowflake" behavior and learn to deal with people, its not hard at all. How do you deal with ur IRL problem solving if you get so upset because some random dude on the internet said something to you in a game. 

I really hate to be this kind of a guy, but cmon this need to be said already. 

[Freya.9075]

1 hour ago, soulknight.9620 said:

I cant belive this post is real. You got so offended that you spent loads of time making this thread and responding just to seek some attention from the community? It is mmorpg, you will play with people, you will encounter people, different people, learn to communicate with them and if needed ignore them or play a single player game. The game provides you with all of the necessary tools to deal with it - you cant be attacked in pve, u can block people, u can report people, you can change maps, you can logout. If you prefer not to use it - its your problem, not communities. Stop this "special snowflake" behavior and learn to deal with people, its not hard at all. How do you deal with ur IRL problem solving if you get so upset because some random dude on the internet said something to you in a game. 

I really hate to be this kind of a guy, but cmon this need to be said already. 

Now this comment was unnecessary. We are all humans and we all got feelings and react differently. Sure you may say it’s online and it’s just words. But this does not excuse this kind of behavior. saying words can never hurt is ignorant. A lot of abuse is verbal and not physical. Does that abuse not count?

If someone got a history with this kind of abuse, they will be more vulnerable to it in the future. Or maybe they are just sensitive by nature. Which is totally fine and should be respected.

 Human mind is complex and not everyone is able to create this hard shell that makes words not hurt. Show some empathy and respect. 

[soulknight.9620]

14 minutes ago, Freya.9075 said:

Now this comment was unnecessary.

Yes it was necessary. If someone has a psychological trauma/problems the answer is simple - seek medical help. There are specialists that would help you get through this. Otherwise its a "learn to live in a society" thing. 

As for why was that necessary? This is a forum that is dedicated to guild wars 2, not psychological help forum. If there is an issue with the game itself - feel free to discuss it. If there is something to be done to make the game better - sure why not. But the "problem" that was described cant be resolved in any way by creating posts like this. People are not gonna read this and suddenly become really nice to each other. Even allmighty anet cant make people behave 24/7. Thats not how human society works. This "problem" can be resolved only by the person himself. Besides all of the necessary tools to help you are availible in the game (ive stated most of them). 

Im not even gonna go into on "who is right or wrong" in this situation. We do not know what actually happen, we do not know the arguments of the other party, all we can do is assume that OP is telling the truth and didnt exaggerate it. Yet there are people in this thread that automatically "blame" the other party for being "bad". Thit is not acceptible. 

 

[Freya.9075]

26 minutes ago, soulknight.9620 said:

Yes it was necessary. If someone has a psychological trauma/problems the answer is simple - seek medical help. There are specialists that would help you get through this. Otherwise its a "learn to live in a society" thing. 

As for why was that necessary? This is a forum that is dedicated to guild wars 2, not psychological help forum. If there is an issue with the game itself - feel free to discuss it. If there is something to be done to make the game better - sure why not. But the "problem" that was described cant be resolved in any way by creating posts like this. People are not gonna read this and suddenly become really nice to each other. Even allmighty anet cant make people behave 24/7. Thats not how human society works. This "problem" can be resolved only by the person himself. Besides all of the necessary tools to help you are availible in the game (ive stated most of them). 

Im not even gonna go into on "who is right or wrong" in this situation. We do not know what actually happen, we do not know the arguments of the other party, all we can do is assume that OP is telling the truth and didnt exaggerate it. Yet there are people in this thread that automatically "blame" the other party for being "bad". Thit is not acceptible. 

 

we dont know what happened yes, but how is this any different then ppl complaining about toxicity in raids or pvp? it's a part of this forum and game in general. Wether or not op was right or wrong is not the point here. point is to treat op with respect. you did not by throwing this toxicity at them. that is not acceptable either. this is a case of looking in the mirror and realize you were in the wrong to disrespect op like this. disagreement is fine. the way you said it was not. Finding a more respectful way to say your opinions about the topic would help a lot.

Edited August 29, 2022 by Freya.9075

[Labjax.2465]

1 hour ago, soulknight.9620 said:

I cant belive this post is real. You got so offended that you spent loads of time making this thread and responding just to seek some attention from the community? It is mmorpg, you will play with people, you will encounter people, different people, learn to communicate with them and if needed ignore them or play a single player game. The game provides you with all of the necessary tools to deal with it - you cant be attacked in pve, u can block people, u can report people, you can change maps, you can logout. If you prefer not to use it - its your problem, not communities. Stop this "special snowflake" behavior and learn to deal with people, its not hard at all. How do you deal with ur IRL problem solving if you get so upset because some random dude on the internet said something to you in a game. 

I really hate to be this kind of a guy, but cmon this need to be said already. 

You sound like the kind of person who would verbally abuse OP in game, now trying to verbally abuse them here too. None of what you said "needed to be said." OP experienced something awful and decided to share it and comment on it publicly. It's other people who are acting like they made a huge deal out of it. Really seems like you're offended that someone decided to use the forums to talk about community behavior.

I'll take the infraction for saying it, if it means being a voice of defense for OP against bullies like you before it all gets deleted. People like you go around telling other people to toughen up, while you rant and rave because someone posted something you don't like. Maybe you should listen to your own advice and just put OP on ignore if you can't handle the subject matter?

[Gibson.4036]

1 hour ago, soulknight.9620 said:

Yes it was necessary. If someone has a psychological trauma/problems the answer is simple - seek medical help. There are specialists that would help you get through this. Otherwise its a "learn to live in a society" thing. 

As for why was that necessary? This is a forum that is dedicated to guild wars 2, not psychological help forum. If there is an issue with the game itself - feel free to discuss it. If there is something to be done to make the game better - sure why not. But the "problem" that was described cant be resolved in any way by creating posts like this. People are not gonna read this and suddenly become really nice to each other. Even allmighty anet cant make people behave 24/7. Thats not how human society works. This "problem" can be resolved only by the person himself. Besides all of the necessary tools to help you are availible in the game (ive stated most of them). 

Im not even gonna go into on "who is right or wrong" in this situation. We do not know what actually happen, we do not know the arguments of the other party, all we can do is assume that OP is telling the truth and didnt exaggerate it. Yet there are people in this thread that automatically "blame" the other party for being "bad". Thit is not acceptible. 

 

Wait, OP is a “special snowflake”for starting this thread over something said in game, but your two, substantial posts are “necessary” over a post made on the forum?

Interesting.

Edited August 29, 2022 by Gibson.4036

[soulknight.9620]

44 minutes ago, Freya.9075 said:

Wether or not op was right or wrong is not the point here. point is to treat op with respect. you did not by throwing this toxicity at them.

Yes it is the point here. Bandwagoning and blaming people for toxicity without any proofs is not acceptable. The general rules apply - feeling abused? Report, ignore, move along.

I did not said anything toxic relating to this situation. Your attempts to mark me as toxic are amusing and just confirmes my statement.  

 

48 minutes ago, Freya.9075 said:

we dont know what happened yes, but how is this any different then ppl complaining about toxicity in raids or pvp?

Both is useless tbh. Gw2 is a MMORPG which means there will be people. And the same as in any human community there are different people. If you choose to engage in an MMORPG you need to accept the fact that not everyone will be kind and gentle just the way you want it to be. Neither you, me, anet can change how people interact among themselves. If you dont like someone - just move along, ignore, blacklist etc. The options are in the game. You do not have to interact with people u dont want to. 

57 minutes ago, Freya.9075 said:

this is a case of looking in the mirror and realize you were in the wrong to disrespect op like this.

Thats the problem again. Tagging people as disrespectfull and toxic for dissagreeing is the mentality of a "special snowflake". 

 

39 minutes ago, Labjax.2465 said:

You sound like the kind of person who would verbally abuse OP in game, now trying to verbally abuse them here too.

Thats what i was referring to, tagging people as toxic/bullying for disagreeing is the "special snowflake" mentality. 

 

 

[Freya.9075]

1 minute ago, soulknight.9620 said:

I did not said anything toxic relating to this situation. Your attempts to mark me as toxic are amusing and just confirmes my statement.  

if you don't see the toxicity you provided, you're part of the issue with toxic players in mmos. There is no "attempt" from my side. ppl can see what you wrote and make their own conclusions. 

 

4 minutes ago, soulknight.9620 said:

Both is useless tbh. Gw2 is a MMORPG which means there will be people. And the same as in any human community there are different people. If you choose to engage in an MMORPG you need to accept the fact that not everyone will be kind and gentle just the way you want it to be. Neither you, me, anet can change how people interact among themselves. If you dont like someone - just move along, ignore, blacklist etc. The options are in the game. You do not have to interact with people u dont want to. 

Useless or not, point still stands. Treating ppl with respect is the way to go. Wether you agree with them or not. 

[Daevhalla.7823]

25 minutes ago, soulknight.9620 said:

I did not said anything toxic relating to this situation. Your attempts to mark me as toxic are amusing and just confirmes my statement.  

Just the fact that you don't see how toxic you were being tells a lot about you as a player.

You can't know what position OP was coming from, their rl experience or age. That's why most people go with the unwritten "assume good intentions", beside being decent human beings, and treat the post and op with decency and respect.

If you can't do that ignore and move on instead of spreading toxicity and bad mood.

[soulknight.9620]

1 minute ago, Daevhalla.7823 said:

If you can't do that ignore and move on instead of spreading toxicity and bad mood.

Since OP decided to take it out to public on the forums i think i have right to respond to it and state my arguments. It was his choice to go public. When starting a discussion a grown up adult expects to get different kind of opinions on that matter. People tend to have different opinions. If thats too much to handle then why start or engage in this discussion? 
There are 3 people up there that called me toxic/bully for stating my arguments. Does it bother me? Nope, why should it? I stated my thoughts, they stated their. Thats how discussions work.

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