Eddie.9143 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 (edited) mirror for mirror on every class they will lose every duel, but this is a pretty easy way to tell its too strong. they're hitting like trucks, endless stealth, end less superspeed, jumping all over the map, ohfk button evade/reflect elite/antitoxin working with shadow arts condi removal, so you cant even load em up with condis before they run and reset. basically shids busted and needs to be toned down. it's absolutely NOT fun dueling thieves and rangers are catching up with smoke pet. Edited August 30, 2023 by Eddie.9143 3 1 11 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okhu.7948 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 They're too strong because they can beat you? Lmao. 4 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure The Heartless.3261 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 (edited) 💀🍿 What an interesting development. Edited August 30, 2023 by Azure The Heartless.3261 iykyk 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariugo.4856 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Eddie.9143 said: mirror for mirror on every class they will lose every duel, but this is a pretty easy way to tell its too strong. they're hitting like trucks, endless stealth, end less superspeed, jumping all over the map, ohfk button evade/reflect elite/antitoxin working with shadow arts condi removal, so you cant even load em up with condis before they run and reset. basically shids busted and needs to be toned down. it's absolutely NOT fun dueling thieves and rangers are catching up with smoke pet. the OP is a mess and makes little to no sense as a whole thiefs use firework, not antitoxin, if they use SA and antitoxin they hit for low dmg The only class that hits like a truck and has high amount of damage/stealth/mobility is soulbeast tbh Edited August 30, 2023 by mariugo.4856 4 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie.9143 Posted August 30, 2023 Author Share Posted August 30, 2023 34 minutes ago, Okhu.7948 said: They're too strong because they can beat you? Lmao. if I mirror them they lose. 1 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saiyan.1704 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 2 hours ago, Eddie.9143 said: they're hitting like trucks, endless stealth, end less superspeed, jumping all over the map, ohfk button evade/reflect elite/antitoxin working with shadow arts condi removal, so you cant even load em up with condis before they run and reset. Your first mistake was thinking that condi ranger was good. Just play stealth burst Soulbeast and farm the thief and his entire team, then gain sentience and farm the servers and the dev's work stations. That's how OP Soulbeast is rn. 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie.9143 Posted August 30, 2023 Author Share Posted August 30, 2023 11 minutes ago, Saiyan.1704 said: Your first mistake was thinking that condi ranger was good. Just play stealth burst Soulbeast and farm the thief and his entire team, then gain sentience and farm the servers and the dev's work stations. That's how OP Soulbeast is rn. bruhh I ain't playing that bssss 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilkyTea.9042 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 Just now, Eddie.9143 said: bruhh I ain't playing that bssss How to GW2 sPVP climb: Play what ever is broken. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endo.1652 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 Habe you tried revealing them? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotejjeken.1267 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 OP, please tell me you aren't losing to thieves on Druid. If so...😂 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curennos.9307 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, mariugo.4856 said: the OP is a mess and makes little to no sense as a whole thiefs use firework, not antitoxin, if they use SA and antitoxin they hit for low dmg The only class that hits like a truck and has high amount of damage/stealth/mobility is soulbeast tbh Insofar as I know Firework relic - the one that gives 10% damage when you use a weapon skill with a CD higher than 20 seconds - doesn't work with any thief weapon skill. OP mentions at least two separate relics, too. Wow. Where are these extra relic slots for thieves? I need to get in on this. Edited August 30, 2023 by Curennos.9307 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewt.9258 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 Nerf teef! 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie.9143 Posted August 30, 2023 Author Share Posted August 30, 2023 57 minutes ago, Endorphin.9147 said: Habe you tried revealing them? Yeah cause imma reveal them with the trait I don't have and then kill them in the imaginary 6 seconds of revealed 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shagie.7612 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 i don't think thief is as bad at fighting people as teef players make it out to be, especially something like condi specter having said that, the entire class is utterly hamstrung by their mobility and relative inability to be punished for poor play, combined with conquest's design as a game mode you can't let them have anything because of it 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saiyan.1704 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 2 hours ago, Eddie.9143 said: bruhh I ain't playing that bssss Then play power untamed. Why pick a slow damaging condi build that only works half the time, then post on forums that you lost to a Thief that doesn't even counter power ranger? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie.9143 Posted August 30, 2023 Author Share Posted August 30, 2023 11 minutes ago, Saiyan.1704 said: Then play power untamed. Why pick a slow damaging condi build that only works half the time, then post on forums that you lost to a Thief that doesn't even counter power ranger? I should be able to beat anything with sinister/adventure/ playing better. But balance changes that 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vilesoldier.9826 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 9 minutes ago, Eddie.9143 said: I should be able to beat anything with sinister/adventure/ playing better. But balance changes that "anything" is a big word, man 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flowki.7194 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 (edited) Thiefs hit too hard for the amount of escape ability, which essentially means they can farm anything they can kill, and escape anything they can't in terms of spec counter. Ontop of that, they can engage with any spec that can kill them, to see if the player is good enough to actually counter, if not -dead player, if yes -thief escapes, just about every other spec dies for making bad choices like that, but not thief. And this is suppose to be justified by the fact thief has no group fight sustain. Sure, if you like toxic game design, lets keep justifying thief. Thief also has the highest chase mobility in the game.. so while a thief can escape a ''better player'', a ''worse or countered player'' cannot escape a thief. The spec needs less mobility and more sustain.. so that thieves get punished for bad plays, and are not pushed into an anoying and relitively speaking, OP playstyle. It isn't just thief however. Willbender has a horrible amount of chase thanks to TP, stability etc.. resulting in many situations where you can't CC the willbender, can't out burst it, and can't outrun it on many specs. Zerker has a high amount of mobility-sustain, being able to attack back while blocking, or leads to a high level of escape after making bad plays. They are not at the level of thief mobility obviously, but in their own way they are also badly designed. Edited August 31, 2023 by Flowki.7194 3 3 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vilesoldier.9826 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Flowki.7194 said: many situations where you can't CC the willbender you can't have typed this seriously....surely please give me hope Edited August 31, 2023 by GeneralBM.5781 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie.9143 Posted August 31, 2023 Author Share Posted August 31, 2023 1 hour ago, GeneralBM.5781 said: you can't have typed this seriously....surely please give me hope i think he means because they typically port from behind terrain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vilesoldier.9826 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 31 minutes ago, Eddie.9143 said: i think he means because they typically port from behind terrain I mean that doesn't affect your ability to CC it.....just don't blow CCs into their Courage, and that's literally it, CC away and it explodes @Flowki.7194 pls elaborate. you're on thin ice, pal 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanAlcedo.3281 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 5 hours ago, Eddie.9143 said: I should be able to beat anything with sinister/adventure/ playing better. But balance changes that Holy God complex batman. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magickthief.6492 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 11 hours ago, Eddie.9143 said: if I mirror them they lose. no, you aint that good. there are many better and more experience players than you. this is a fact you need to accept, and move on. learn boyo 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie.9143 Posted August 31, 2023 Author Share Posted August 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, magickthief.6492 said: no, you aint that good. there are many better and more experience players than you. this is a fact you need to accept, and move on. learn boyo I've been playing 10+ years lol, I know when I'm getting outplayed. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magickthief.6492 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 35 minutes ago, Eddie.9143 said: I've been playing 10+ years lol, I know when I'm getting outplayed. OBVIOUSLY NOT 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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