Kashou.6058 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Why do I need to make a new account just to play with an NA friend? Please change this. 3 1 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freya.9075 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/World You can change regions and worlds as long as you’re not a free player. You get one free change and after that you’ll have to buy an item to be able to change. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kashou.6058 Posted November 7, 2023 Author Share Posted November 7, 2023 I do not wish to buy a server transfer twice a week. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inculpatus cedo.9234 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Because NA and EU use different data centers. If you want to play with a higher ping, you can create a Play4Free account and join your friend. Good luck. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vayne.8563 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Kashou.6058 said: I do not wish to buy a server transfer twice a week. And WvW players don't want spies from other servers having an easy time getting onto their server. This is made to make WvW better. The number of people who play WvW is far higher than the amount of people who need to play cross server. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobx.1758 Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 Why do you even need that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randulf.7614 Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 16 minutes ago, Kashou.6058 said: I don't care about any of this. Change it. It wont be changed. It's that simple. It has essentially always been this way and no amount of feedback will change it because it exists for the reasons described. You will have to work around it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kashou.6058 Posted November 8, 2023 Author Share Posted November 8, 2023 Spies in WvW is a problem that isn't even solved with all the current restrictions, and no matter what you do anyone sweaty enough to care at all about spies in WvW will just make a new account and buy the game even if that becomes a requirement to do it, and furthermore this is only an issue for the 10% of WvW players sweaty enough to give a kitten in the first place. None of this fixes any of the problems it sets out to do and only makes the game worse and more restrictive for normal players. Great system ArenaNet. It did nothing and only has negative consequences. So just open up NA to guesting or just make me have to make new characters separately on NA so I don't have to re-buy $75 worth of expansions. "Just make a F2P account" is a ridiculous retort. 1 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glacial.9516 Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 Honestly at this point is there even a reason to still rigidly separate NA and EU? From what I understand we all buy and sell from the same trading post and I recall being able to party and chat with friends on EU even though we couldn't enter the same maps. Ping is obviously an issue and so being placed into region-specific maps by default is sensible, but technical limitations of enabling cross-region play aside for the moment, opting-in to joining a cross-region map should have little or no detrimental impact. Participating in WvW together might be impossible, but that was often the case even among players in the same region (the 'new' [to me] WvW guild option may have solved that?). And free accounts are probably a bigger threat of "WvW Spies" than cross-region play could ever be. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobx.1758 Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Kashou.6058 said: Your opinions are ridiculous and the concept of people being unable to play with their friends because of you is inane. You are able to play with your friends, just get accounts on the same server. Edited November 8, 2023 by Sobx.1758 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistwraithe.3106 Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 40 minutes ago, Kashou.6058 said: Your opinions are ridiculous and the concept of people being unable to play with their friends because of you is inane. Hmmm. Essentially you are complaining that you don't like how slow the speed of light is and you want Anet to be able to host a single server for the entire world. Unfortunately, the speed of light won't increase just because you would like it to. As a result Anet run separate North American and European servers. Bad luck. Physics doesn't care that you are unhappy about it. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistwraithe.3106 Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 Serious response. If either you or your friend aren’t fussed about the ping then one of you should just do a one time move of your account. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kashou.6058 Posted November 8, 2023 Author Share Posted November 8, 2023 Unfortunately people may have more than one friend 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maria Murtor.7253 Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 (edited) I'm in a guild which has EU and NA players in it. All I can say is: It's frustrating, considering we're living in a time and age where accessibility is moving more and more into the focus. Edited November 8, 2023 by Maria Murtor.7253 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibit.6259 Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 Some people have already explained this. This forum thread may be more insightful for you: By the looks for things from what I briefly read in this thread it's either technologically not viable, is not currently worth the time, money and resources needed or both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inculpatus cedo.9234 Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 From the link above (Q and Dev response): Q: I remember changing servers instantly in GW1, how that was possible then? Different system all together? A: In Guild Wars character data /is/ actually transferred across the Atlantic and it was a huge source of downtime and disconnects for EU players. It wasn't fair at all and so for Guild Wars 2 we decided it was a better trade-off to have reliable service on the same continent even if that limited the ability to play together somewhat.. .Q: will it be possible to TEMPORARILY guest for free cross-region, to allow us at least a temporary way to play at least PVE with friends cross-region? A: No that won't be possible - guesting allowed your "current world" to change but didn't do anything with the location of your data - Europe or North America. We have talked about what it would take to play in Europe and have your data in NA (for example) but the cables under the Atlantic are just not robust enough to have reliable database saves across continents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
costepj.5120 Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 40 minutes ago, Kashou.6058 said: Having two accounts is a bad solution because you have to rebuy expansions. Bad solution for you; good solution for anet. They can either spend millions restructuring their server architecture or sit back and accept revenue from the few outliers who want to actively play all the content in both regions. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kashou.6058 Posted November 8, 2023 Author Share Posted November 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, Inculpatus cedo.9234 said: From the link above (Q and Dev response): Q: I remember changing servers instantly in GW1, how that was possible then? Different system all together? A: In Guild Wars character data /is/ actually transferred across the Atlantic and it was a huge source of downtime and disconnects for EU players. It wasn't fair at all and so for Guild Wars 2 we decided it was a better trade-off to have reliable service on the same continent even if that limited the ability to play together somewhat.. .Q: will it be possible to TEMPORARILY guest for free cross-region, to allow us at least a temporary way to play at least PVE with friends cross-region? A: No that won't be possible - guesting allowed your "current world" to change but didn't do anything with the location of your data - Europe or North America. We have talked about what it would take to play in Europe and have your data in NA (for example) but the cables under the Atlantic are just not robust enough to have reliable database saves across continents. Ok that's fine, so simply let me log in to NA with my account instead with fresh characters there but let me keep my expansions. This is all very simple stuff. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuna Bandit.3786 Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 Funny to see a link to an old topic of mine. What I did to play around this is actually have seperate accounts on both sides. Yes you have to rebuy the expansions and play through it all again, but at the end it does give you the flexibility you're looking for. And it's cheaper and WAY more convenient in the long run, simply due to how the system works. You can transfer to the other side, but (apart from first time moving servers being free) cost gems. Not only that, you have a week cooldown, so you are "stuck" on the new server for a week before you can move again. If you are, like me, really torn between playing NA or EU, then multiple accounts is a solid solution. I started on NA, but am in Europe. The more I played, the more European people I met that played the game as well. Starting a new account from scratch looked daunting to me, but I found a legit solution to speed up the new account's progress. I started my EU account on NA, where my first account also is located. I did this to speed through some parts, by using Multiboxing (within the strickt guide lines - DO read those if you are considering this!) I then used my NA main to get the masteries I want fast. tp2friend, Mesmer Portal, etc etc to get the (for new players) hard to reach masteries that a full acount can simply fly to. Once I progressed far enough (For my personal preference) I used the 1 free move every account has, to transfer to EU. This all might not be a solution for everyone, but it is for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmsblood.5231 Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 This friend is worth a tantrum on the forums, but not buying a new account? When you can get a bundle of the expansions for cheap? Idk man, people have given you good explanations and you just say "don't care". The solution most are proposing will happen much much quicker than the server infrastructure work it would take 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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