RedShark.9548 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 @rng.1024 said:Okay, for clarification:Getting cc'ed while your traited Lesser Balanced Stance is off cooldown will proc it without selfinterrupting your current action - if there is no interrupt (aka you have stab) then it won't proc. An easier way to think of it is that the incoming cc condition is converted to a 0 second daze, which is the proc condition for the trait. So stab = no proc, since the removal of stab is prioritized over potential interrupts when you have it.Also there's only 1 skill in the game who can proc it's cc through stab, and that's mesmers Chaos Storm. Simply because it's a 0s duration proc bypassing the requirement for losing a stack of stab.traited thief steal interrupts through stab, because it rips stab before the daze. wont work while lesser valanced stance hasnt triggered yet, because it will instantly activate after the first stab was ripped, preventing the daze. other than that it will go through stabim pretty sure it will also activate while just moving, not casting any skill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferus.3165 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 @rng.1024 said:Getting cc'ed while your traited Lesser Balanced Stance is off cooldown will proc it without selfinterrupting your current action - if there is no interrupt (aka you have stab) then it won't proc.WrongAlso there's only 1 skill in the game who can proc it's cc through stab, and that's mesmers Chaos Storm. Simply because it's a 0s duration proc bypassing the requirement for losing a stack of stab.Wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rng.1024 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 @RedShark.9548 said:@rng.1024 said:Okay, for clarification:Getting cc'ed while your traited Lesser Balanced Stance is off cooldown will proc it without selfinterrupting your current action - if there is no interrupt (aka you have stab) then it won't proc. An easier way to think of it is that the incoming cc condition is converted to a 0 second daze, which is the proc condition for the trait. So stab = no proc, since the removal of stab is prioritized over potential interrupts when you have it.Also there's only 1 skill in the game who can proc it's cc through stab, and that's mesmers Chaos Storm. Simply because it's a 0s duration proc bypassing the requirement for losing a stack of stab.traited thief steal interrupts through stab, because it rips stab before the daze. wont work while lesser valanced stance hasnt triggered yet, because it will instantly activate after the first stab was ripped, preventing the daze. other than that it will go through stabim pretty sure it will also activate while just moving, not casting any skillIndeed, but it doesn't interrupt through stab, like you said it rather simply removes it before applying the daze leaving it open to LBS proc. Then it treats the daze like any other condi reduction, reducing it's duration to 0 allowing it to register and proc traits. Same goes if you aren't using skills.@Ferus.3165 said:@rng.1024 said:Getting cc'ed while your traited Lesser Balanced Stance is off cooldown will proc it without selfinterrupting your current action - if there is no interrupt (aka you have stab) then it won't proc.WrongAlso there's only 1 skill in the game who can proc it's cc through stab, and that's mesmers Chaos Storm. Simply because it's a 0s duration proc bypassing the requirement for losing a stack of stab.WrongCare to elaborate? No need to sit on your secret knowledge of game mechanics, we'd all very much would like to know ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferus.3165 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 @rng.1024 said:@RedShark.9548 said:@rng.1024 said:Okay, for clarification:Getting cc'ed while your traited Lesser Balanced Stance is off cooldown will proc it without selfinterrupting your current action - if there is no interrupt (aka you have stab) then it won't proc. An easier way to think of it is that the incoming cc condition is converted to a 0 second daze, which is the proc condition for the trait. So stab = no proc, since the removal of stab is prioritized over potential interrupts when you have it.Also there's only 1 skill in the game who can proc it's cc through stab, and that's mesmers Chaos Storm. Simply because it's a 0s duration proc bypassing the requirement for losing a stack of stab.traited thief steal interrupts through stab, because it rips stab before the daze. wont work while lesser valanced stance hasnt triggered yet, because it will instantly activate after the first stab was ripped, preventing the daze. other than that it will go through stabim pretty sure it will also activate while just moving, not casting any skillIndeed, but it doesn't interrupt through stab, like you said it rather simply removes it before applying the daze leaving it open to LBS proc. Then it treats the daze like any other condi reduction, reducing it's duration to 0 allowing it to register and proc traits. Same goes if you aren't using skills.@Ferus.3165 said:@rng.1024 said:Getting cc'ed while your traited Lesser Balanced Stance is off cooldown will proc it without selfinterrupting your current action - if there is no interrupt (aka you have stab) then it won't proc.WrongAlso there's only 1 skill in the game who can proc it's cc through stab, and that's mesmers Chaos Storm. Simply because it's a 0s duration proc bypassing the requirement for losing a stack of stab.WrongCare to elaborate? No need to sit on your secret knowledge of game mechanics, we'd all very much would like to know ^^Thief steal will interrupt you even when you have stab active, like redshark mentioned. And it is only one skill. The boonrip is not a different skill than the rest of that ability. And passive balanced stance does activate when a cc skill hits you and you have stab active. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Haired Savage.5430 Posted September 20, 2018 Author Share Posted September 20, 2018 @Ferus.3165 said:@rng.1024 said:@RedShark.9548 said:@rng.1024 said:Okay, for clarification:Getting cc'ed while your traited Lesser Balanced Stance is off cooldown will proc it without selfinterrupting your current action - if there is no interrupt (aka you have stab) then it won't proc. An easier way to think of it is that the incoming cc condition is converted to a 0 second daze, which is the proc condition for the trait. So stab = no proc, since the removal of stab is prioritized over potential interrupts when you have it.Also there's only 1 skill in the game who can proc it's cc through stab, and that's mesmers Chaos Storm. Simply because it's a 0s duration proc bypassing the requirement for losing a stack of stab.traited thief steal interrupts through stab, because it rips stab before the daze. wont work while lesser valanced stance hasnt triggered yet, because it will instantly activate after the first stab was ripped, preventing the daze. other than that it will go through stabim pretty sure it will also activate while just moving, not casting any skillIndeed, but it doesn't interrupt through stab, like you said it rather simply removes it before applying the daze leaving it open to LBS proc. Then it treats the daze like any other condi reduction, reducing it's duration to 0 allowing it to register and proc traits. Same goes if you aren't using skills.@Ferus.3165 said:@rng.1024 said:Getting cc'ed while your traited Lesser Balanced Stance is off cooldown will proc it without selfinterrupting your current action - if there is no interrupt (aka you have stab) then it won't proc.WrongAlso there's only 1 skill in the game who can proc it's cc through stab, and that's mesmers Chaos Storm. Simply because it's a 0s duration proc bypassing the requirement for losing a stack of stab.WrongCare to elaborate? No need to sit on your secret knowledge of game mechanics, we'd all very much would like to know ^^Thief steal will interrupt you even when you have stab active, like redshark mentioned. And it is only one skill. The boonrip is not a different skill than the rest of that ability. And passive balanced stance does activate when a cc skill hits you and you have stab active.As was already pointed out in the video in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zionophir.6845 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 @RedShark.9548 said:traited thief steal interrupts through stab, because it rips stab before the daze. what a fucking stupid thinking is that, if it rips stab, then stab is removed. aka, there is no more stab. boon rip then interrupt. and the other stab is activated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rng.1024 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 @Ferus.3165 said:@rng.1024 said:@RedShark.9548 said:@rng.1024 said:Okay, for clarification:Getting cc'ed while your traited Lesser Balanced Stance is off cooldown will proc it without selfinterrupting your current action - if there is no interrupt (aka you have stab) then it won't proc. An easier way to think of it is that the incoming cc condition is converted to a 0 second daze, which is the proc condition for the trait. So stab = no proc, since the removal of stab is prioritized over potential interrupts when you have it.Also there's only 1 skill in the game who can proc it's cc through stab, and that's mesmers Chaos Storm. Simply because it's a 0s duration proc bypassing the requirement for losing a stack of stab.traited thief steal interrupts through stab, because it rips stab before the daze. wont work while lesser valanced stance hasnt triggered yet, because it will instantly activate after the first stab was ripped, preventing the daze. other than that it will go through stabim pretty sure it will also activate while just moving, not casting any skillIndeed, but it doesn't interrupt through stab, like you said it rather simply removes it before applying the daze leaving it open to LBS proc. Then it treats the daze like any other condi reduction, reducing it's duration to 0 allowing it to register and proc traits. Same goes if you aren't using skills.@Ferus.3165 said:@rng.1024 said:Getting cc'ed while your traited Lesser Balanced Stance is off cooldown will proc it without selfinterrupting your current action - if there is no interrupt (aka you have stab) then it won't proc.WrongAlso there's only 1 skill in the game who can proc it's cc through stab, and that's mesmers Chaos Storm. Simply because it's a 0s duration proc bypassing the requirement for losing a stack of stab.WrongCare to elaborate? No need to sit on your secret knowledge of game mechanics, we'd all very much would like to know ^^Thief steal will interrupt you even when you have stab active, like redshark mentioned. And it is only one skill. The boonrip is not a different skill than the rest of that ability. And passive balanced stance does activate when a cc skill hits you and you have stab active.Thief steal is dependent on two separate traits in order to achieve this, which both follow their own priority in the sequence of execution so no - it's not only 1 skill. As for the traited balanced stance I stand corrected, although you do lose 1 stack of stab. Seems they don't care how the condition affects you, as long as it's on that list. However I have only been able to reproduce it so far with knockback (as in the video and the guardians downed 2 skill), which in itself is a 0 duration condition (you getting up is on a global timer), but will try to expand on this tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedShark.9548 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 @zionophir.6845 said:@RedShark.9548 said:traited thief steal interrupts through stab, because it rips stab before the daze. what a kitten stupid thinking is that, if it rips stab, then stab is removed. aka, there is no more stab. boon rip then interrupt. and the other stab is activated.im not sure what your point is...mind explaining? i made it clear that it first rips stab and immediately interrupts, for me that is an interrupt that goes through stab, because its all pressing one key and no time to react inbetween. and it prioritizes stab, so its a special rip aswell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zionophir.6845 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 @RedShark.9548 said:@zionophir.6845 said:@RedShark.9548 said:traited thief steal interrupts through stab, because it rips stab before the daze. what a kitten stupid thinking is that, if it rips stab, then stab is removed. aka, there is no more stab. boon rip then interrupt. and the other stab is activated.im not sure what your point is...mind explaining? i made it clear that it first rips stab and immediately interrupts, for me that is an interrupt that goes through stab, because its all pressing one key and no time to react inbetween. and it prioritizes stab, so its a special rip aswellyou can't feel micro seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Haired Savage.5430 Posted September 21, 2018 Author Share Posted September 21, 2018 @zionophir.6845 said:@RedShark.9548 said:@zionophir.6845 said:@RedShark.9548 said:traited thief steal interrupts through stab, because it rips stab before the daze. what a kitten stupid thinking is that, if it rips stab, then stab is removed. aka, there is no more stab. boon rip then interrupt. and the other stab is activated.im not sure what your point is...mind explaining? i made it clear that it first rips stab and immediately interrupts, for me that is an interrupt that goes through stab, because its all pressing one key and no time to react inbetween. and it prioritizes stab, so its a special rip aswellyou can't feel micro seconds.Yes, so you're going from having stability to not having it AND being stunned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zionophir.6845 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 @Red Haired Savage.5430 said:@zionophir.6845 said:@RedShark.9548 said:@zionophir.6845 said:@RedShark.9548 said:traited thief steal interrupts through stab, because it rips stab before the daze. what a kitten stupid thinking is that, if it rips stab, then stab is removed. aka, there is no more stab. boon rip then interrupt. and the other stab is activated.im not sure what your point is...mind explaining? i made it clear that it first rips stab and immediately interrupts, for me that is an interrupt that goes through stab, because its all pressing one key and no time to react inbetween. and it prioritizes stab, so its a special rip aswellyou can't feel micro seconds.Yes, so you're going from having stability to not having it AND being stunned.that's what's lesser balanced stance for.lel.if some thief think that he stole your stability, use lesser balanced stance coz he proves to be a weak potato. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedShark.9548 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 @zionophir.6845 said:@Red Haired Savage.5430 said:@zionophir.6845 said:@RedShark.9548 said:@zionophir.6845 said:@RedShark.9548 said:traited thief steal interrupts through stab, because it rips stab before the daze. what a kitten stupid thinking is that, if it rips stab, then stab is removed. aka, there is no more stab. boon rip then interrupt. and the other stab is activated.im not sure what your point is...mind explaining? i made it clear that it first rips stab and immediately interrupts, for me that is an interrupt that goes through stab, because its all pressing one key and no time to react inbetween. and it prioritizes stab, so its a special rip aswellyou can't feel micro seconds.Yes, so you're going from having stability to not having it AND being stunned.that's what's lesser balanced stance for.lel.if some thief think that he stole your stability, use lesser balanced stance coz he proves to be a weak potato.dude, thief can just headshot you once, triggers lesser balanced stance, then you have stab, you do something, he steals with traited steal, rips stab and interrupts you, there is NO way you hit your real stab inbetween the rip and the daze.all he has to do is trigger lesser balanced stance before he steals, which is not hard when you have a spammable no cd cc on your weaponsetps. ofc i cant feel microseconds, what the kitten is your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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