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@Konig Des Todes.2086 said:

@derd.6413 said:

@Konig Des Todes.2086 said:a minimum of four living Elder

pretty sure that's not the case.

That was pretty much the entire plot point of stopping Balthazar. If one more Elder Dragon dies, the world dies. Two have died, four live. So if three die, the world dies. Which means we need a minimum of four living Elder Dragons.

from what i got it's more a case of 2 dead elder dragons is slowly killing the world with a chance of recovery while 3 dead EDs is irreversibly doomed.

[EdwinLi.1284]

@derd.6413 said:

@Konig Des Todes.2086 said:

@derd.6413 said:

@Konig Des Todes.2086 said:a minimum of four living Elder

pretty sure that's not the case.

That was pretty much the entire plot point of stopping Balthazar. If one more Elder Dragon dies, the world dies. Two have died, four live. So if three die, the world dies. Which means we need a minimum of four living Elder Dragons.

from what i got it's more a case of 2 dead elder dragons is slowly killing the world with a chance of recovery while 3 dead EDs is irreversibly doomed.

Only if we kill Kralk in Tyria but we're not going to kill Kralk in Tyria because from the battle teaser with the wyvern mount, it will be in the Mist and if we kill him in the Mist all that Magical Energy will be released in the Mist and thus can be blocked from returning to Tyria.

The Mist is also very large due to being connected to the Multiverse and etc so by killing Kralk there we can prevent Tyria from experiencing the Magical Energy overload. However, someone has to stay and seal it in the Mist so it never goes into Tyria when Kralk dies and that is most likely going to be Aurene's job.

[ThatOddOne.4387]

It’s not the release of magic that’s the issue it’s the imbalance in the All that is, the two are unrelated.

[Konig Des Todes.2086]

@perilisk.1874 said:

@Konig Des Todes.2086 said:That was pretty much the entire plot point of stopping Balthazar. If one more Elder Dragon dies, the world dies. Two have died, four live. So if three die, the world dies. Which means we need a minimum of four living Elder Dragons.

M and Z were opposing. The random solution could always be that, having somehow killed K, we must locate and kill S, posthaste. I doubt it, but it makes some sort of sense. LS5: Hope You Like UW Combat.

J and P are opposites, and the very first hint of the world dying with more ED deaths was simulating via data from Omadd's Machine what would happen if those two died.

So not likely.

@derd.6413 said:

@Konig Des Todes.2086 said:

@derd.6413 said:

@Konig Des Todes.2086 said:a minimum of four living Elder

pretty sure that's not the case.

That was pretty much the entire plot point of stopping Balthazar. If one more Elder Dragon dies, the world dies. Two have died, four live. So if three die, the world dies. Which means we need a minimum of four living Elder Dragons.

from what i got it's more a case of 2 dead elder dragons is slowly killing the world with a chance of recovery while 3 dead EDs is irreversibly doomed.

Yes. That's what I said.

Three dead Elder Dragons = world irreversibly doomed.

So we must have four LIVING Elder Dragons at a bare minimum at any point in time. And since the end goal is to replace all evil Elder Dragons, that means we needed a bare minimum of four replacements to maintain the world.

@"EdwinLi.1284" said:Only if we kill Kralk in Tyria but we're not going to kill Kralk in Tyria because from the battle teaser with the wyvern mount, it will be in the Mist and if we kill him in the Mist all that Magical Energy will be released in the Mist and thus can be blocked from returning to Tyria.

The Mist is also very large due to being connected to the Multiverse and etc so by killing Kralk there we can prevent Tyria from experiencing the Magical Energy overload. However, someone has to stay and seal it in the Mist so it never goes into Tyria when Kralk dies and that is most likely going to be Aurene's job.

Nothing in the trailers and teasers have suggested we're going into the Mists, technically. Except arguably the shot of Kralkatorrik itself.

That said, you're thinking only about the containment and release of magic. Not the Balance of the All which is what we've been told is the critical "ends the world with one more death" situation. After all, if we merely needed a new vessel for the magic, there was zero reason why Balthazar absorbing Jormag's and Primordus' magic would be a bad thing since at the time we had no clue he was planning on killing the other gods (nor would 4 out of 5 Commanders care).

@ThatOddOne.4387 said:It’s not the release of magic that’s the issue it’s the imbalance in the All that is, the two are unrelated.

The two are related, it's just that we're closer to the balance of the All hiting that irreversible tipping sooner than the balance of magic.

[PseudoNewb.5468]

If the dragons have opposite, or related axis of balance, it might be sheer luck that we killed Zhaitan and Mordremoth, the two parts of a single axis on the balance of the All (they are vaguely aligned with growth and death, or perhaps plant vs animal life)... If the All has a three dimensional balance, it may suffice that removing or damaging one axis allows it to remain stable, but damage along two could be what throws it off. In that case restoring one of Moredremoth or Zhaitan still wouldn't allow us to kill another dragon. Not sure how the balance of the All works, since Taimi's research seems to be quite vague.

Just saying living dragons >= 4 might not be the only condition for balance.

[Konig Des Todes.2086]

Season 3 points Zhaitan and Mordremoth as being opposites for sure, just as it paints Primordus and Jormag, but also stressed that Z and M weren't "unique weaknesses to each other" (this has led some theories to believe that Jormag and Primordus' "unique weakness" isn't each other after all, but that all six Elder Dragons are in pairs which are vulnerable to each other on top of having their own unique weakness, which is exploiting a particular strength of theirs).

[Michram.6853]

Taimi will die :(

[Poormany.4507]

@EdwinLi.1284 said:

@"Konig Des Todes.2086" said:

Or before. We cannot kill Kralkatorrik without a replacement, and if ghosts could become replacements, then why hasn't Glint continued the battle instead of sending her children to do it. And if Aurene's to "remain in the Mists" due to being dead, how does that help solve the issue of Tyria's balance of The All?

They've left a very big issue to be solved. This episode practically requires to be twice the length of others at least to not make it feel like a massive dues ex machina (ala aforementioned Mordremoth's weakness).

That is why there is another season arriving right after this season instead of a expanion.

I am guessing next season focus is to deal with the loss of Aurene as the "Solution" and to discover another that leads us into exploring the new Season 5 Region.

I'm also really hoping it's not a Mordremoth/Zhaitan type solution or that Kralk just flies away (again)

Sadly, it does look like its going to be a solution popping out of nowwhere since Kralk's arc is getting too long already (definitely don't see him getting another full season) and they have no Aurene to replace him atm. So either Aurene gets revived by Joko or dragon magic or it's going to be another random last minute elder dragon slaying solution out of nowhere (like Mordy and Zhaitan), of which I would prefer the former since it's been at least foreshadowed in the season.

[Konig Des Todes.2086]

Just because a solution is found in this episode, doesn't make it a "solution popping out of nowhere" or last minute like with Mordremoth (Zhaitan's defeat wasn't really out of nowhere either; that one was actually well done, except for the lack of existing "unique weaknesses" being talked about in the plot). It also fully depends on the length of the episode - since it's a finale, and an Elder Dragon ending one at that, it may end up having a larger story than other episodes.

[EdwinLi.1284]

@"Konig Des Todes.2086" said:Just because a solution is found in this episode, doesn't make it a "solution popping out of nowhere" or last minute like with Mordremoth (Zhaitan's defeat wasn't really out of nowhere either; that one was actually well done, except for the lack of existing "unique weaknesses" being talked about in the plot). It also fully depends on the length of the episode - since it's a finale, and an Elder Dragon ending one at that, it may end up having a larger story than other episodes.

I honestly won't be surprise if Kralk final battle is only the 50% mark of the story to trick players thinking the Episode is almost over due to how "epic" it may be but only to reveal that during the victory celebration and time for mourning the lost we encounter a new character or get attacked by a new enemy that leads us into the other 50% of the story to set up the new solution in next Season storyline