How does the new grenade Holo work?

[mrauls.6519]

Coming back after a month. How does it work? What works against it?

[Aktium.9506]

@"mrauls.6519" said:How does it work?It generates 25 might and it throws the nades while it has 25 might ?Oh and there's blind spam too

What works against it?Good question

[Tharan.9085]

DH works good against it

[Fueki.4753]

Boon corrupt might work.

[Zuko.7132]

Does big boom boom. Easy to avoid your little boom with blind spam.

[mortrialus.3062]

@"mrauls.6519" said:Coming back after a month. How does it work? What works against it?

It abuses skills that went under the radar during the megabalance.

[Pengu.7481]

@"mrauls.6519" said:Coming back after a month. How does it work? What works against it?condi/boon corrupt works against it like it always have with holo, same counter as before the patch. look for the might stacks to predict https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Grenade_Barrage

@mortrialus.3062 said:

It abuses skills that went under the radar during the megabalance.

it didnt fly under the radar, engineer kits didnt get touched by anet since they were all underperfoming since pof dropped (maybe except for elixir gun)

[wasss.1208]

@"mrauls.6519" said:How does it work?

Enter forge -> get over 100 heat, get ~20 might though HGH, ECSU, and Corona Burst, use your 'nade barrage. Use it during PF for that sweet Laser's Edge modifier.

[mortrialus.3062]

@toxic.3648 said:

@"mrauls.6519" said:Coming back after a month. How does it work? What works against it?condi/boon corrupt works against it like it always have with holo, same counter as before the patch. look for the might stacks to predict

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Grenade_Barrage

@mortrialus.3062 said:

It abuses skills that went under the radar during the megabalance.

it didnt fly under the radar, engineer kits didnt get touched by anet since they were all underperfoming since pof dropped (maybe except for elixir gun)

It flew under the radar just like ranger pet skills.

[Bast.7253]

I'm terrible at holo anyway but I kind of struggled with it the other night, at least against conditions. Does a crap ton of damage though! Metabattle says to use Elixir X but it seems like Mortar would still be the better choice?

[Kodama.6453]

@"cptaylor.2670" said:I'm terrible at holo anyway but I kind of struggled with it the other night, at least against conditions. Does a kitten ton of damage though! Metabattle says to use Elixir X but it seems like Mortar would still be the better choice?

This seems to be one point that many people absolutely ignore all the time. That build lacks condi cleanses, especially on demand condi cleanse.The only one they have is a trait that removes up to 3 conditions when leaving PF. If the holo is not currently in PF and you condi bomb them, then they have to engage in PF first and deacivate it again, which takes 6 seconds while they are eating the condi damage.

[Leonidrex.5649]

@Kodama.6453 said:

@"cptaylor.2670" said:I'm terrible at holo anyway but I kind of struggled with it the other night, at least against conditions. Does a kitten ton of damage though! Metabattle says to use Elixir X but it seems like Mortar would still be the better choice?

This seems to be one point that many people absolutely ignore all the time. That build lacks condi cleanses, especially on demand condi cleanse.The only one they have is a trait that removes up to 3 conditions when leaving PF. If the holo is not currently in PF and you condi bomb them, then they have to engage in PF first and deacivate it again, which takes 6 seconds while they are eating the condi damage.

if only they could afford a rune that gives resistance and still have insane damage :)rune of revenant/resistance goes brrrzt

[Aktium.9506]

@Kodama.6453 said:This seems to be one point that many people absolutely ignore all the time. That build lacks condi cleanses, especially on demand condi cleanse.The problem with this logic is that all the condi builds in the meta have a relatively slow ramp up time and will lose a dps race against holo even if he doesn't go forge to get that 1-2 condis cleansed per sec.

Builds also weren't supposed to be able to self stack long durations of 25 Might after the February patch. In case anyone forgot.

[youle.5824]

3 conditions convert to boons is op cleanse already, then you have heal with rune of rev for the ez resistance and off elixir s.. and like the comment above mentioned , you win the dps race anyway vs condi builds.