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  • Burnfall.9573Burnfall.9573 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 25, 2017

    Guys, every games have hackers; can't entirely remove them all. Yea it sucks seeing the same hackers but what matters is reducing their influence to other potential hackers. Main overall objective is reducing hackers, not advertising them in the forums.

    So by openly exposing their activities in the forums, you are also aiding in promoting future potential hackers to hack

    That's all

    Merry Christmas

  • 99% of the time people claim 'hacking' in this game it's because they don't understand all the mechanics. This isn't that surprising, this game is really complex, and the mechanics change all the time. Example: guy above who thinks taunt is a hack.

    The only hacks I've seen confirmed in this game are fly and teleport hacks, which I think are inevitable because of how client/server side stuff works. They primarily get used in wvw, and after 5+ years of pvp play, I've never seen them used once in pvp personally. But it's possible at least for them to be used there.

    Bots seem to be a recent issue, but botting != hacking, at least not the way most people think. Bots typically mess up matches by throwing them.

    If you see something you don't understand, maybe describe the situation and ask more experienced players what they think might have been going on, rather than yelling 'hacks!' Don't be like the guy in my game earlier this week who started QQing 'hacks!' in map chat because a FB on our team was using sword and JI and teleported onto point with them. :/

  • i wonder if it has anything to do with the game going f2p. reason being is because i can not see has many people risking being banned if they had to buy the game. sure there might be a few that paid for it that would still hack but not has many

  • @yanniell.1236 said:

    @Rap Tiger.1257 said:
    Today I saw a scourge using teleport hacker, unfortunate, but it really is showing some hackers ...

    I'll just let it here:

    Speeding hack necro on BIK's stream MOCKING ANet

    image

    This is the video, it starts at 2:17:00ish

    I know ANet doesn't comment when they ban someone or take any actions, but would be nice to have a feedback on this one, so, you know, we could have a little of our "faith in the system" restored.

    Exactly look at this link of the video and you will see the scourge hacker on the other blue team ..... I fought against him twice and I know he is using hacker because he was moving fast as he teleported, can arenanet investigate this guy?

  • @Thane.9421 said:
    99% of the time people claim 'hacking' in this game it's because they don't understand all the mechanics. This isn't that surprising, this game is really complex, and the mechanics change all the time. Example: guy above who thinks taunt is a hack.

    The only hacks I've seen confirmed in this game are fly and teleport hacks, which I think are inevitable because of how client/server side stuff works. They primarily get used in wvw, and after 5+ years of pvp play, I've never seen them used once in pvp personally. But it's possible at least for them to be used there.

    Bots seem to be a recent issue, but botting != hacking, at least not the way most people think. Bots typically mess up matches by throwing them.

    If you see something you don't understand, maybe describe the situation and ask more experienced players what they think might have been going on, rather than yelling 'hacks!' Don't be like the guy in my game earlier this week who started QQing 'hacks!' in map chat because a FB on our team was using sword and JI and teleported onto point with them. :/

    Did you see taunt where in this video? I have 16k more playing pvp, I have played this game since 2012 and I know the skills of the classes to know enough that he is a hacker, the teleportation of this scourge is not using his common ability of teleport and yes moving fast, disappearing and appearing looking like a constant teleportation.

  • TechAssist.4635TechAssist.4635 Member ✭✭
    edited December 29, 2017

    Could Gaile Gray rename this to 'Scriptkiddies in PVP'..... k thanks hahaha

  • Did you see taunt where in this video? I have 16k more playing pvp, I have played this game since 2012 and I know the skills of the classes to know enough that he is a hacker, the teleportation of this scourge is not using his common ability of teleport and yes moving fast, disappearing and appearing looking like a constant teleportation.

    I wasn't talking about the video, this whole thread isn't about that video, lol. About taunt, I was referring to this comment earlier in the thread:

    @Vague Memory.2817 said:
    I've met quite few of these hackers recently in matches and I'm getting sick and tired of them. A few of them have a cheat that make most of their skill effects turn yellow and if they walk anywhere near you they are able to load you with all the condis in the game and you die in 1.25 secs.

    I'm not saying no hack has ever happened. I'm saying the only legit claims I've seen, with evidence, are normally teleport or fly hacks, and 99% of these seem to happen in wvw, probably because it's easier to get away with there, and not many people care about our dead pvp conquest game mode anymore. The majority of the time that people claim hacks in this game, it's usually someone who doesn't understand mechanics. Period. I've been accused of hacking many times by new kids.

  • MithranArkanere.8957MithranArkanere.8957 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 30, 2017

    One of the problems that need to be addressed is the myth that cheaters are not punished.

    It creates a feedback loop that causes players to report less because they think reporting doesn't do a thing, which in turn keeps cheaters around longer before they are detected and punished, and that makes people think cheaters are not punished.

    There's two measures needed to solve that:

    1. Let players report better in-game, and inform them how to do it better:
      • Modify the "Botting" report entry to clearly state it includes players using hacking tools or other third-party tools not allowed by ANet.
      • Modify one of the other options to include players exploiting bugs and other inappropriate behaviors.
    2. Let players know when someone they reported has been punished, without telling them who or why. Just a generic "Reports by your and other players have helped us identify and punish a player engaging in negative behavior. Thank you for your collaboration".

    This way players will know how to report players without having to take screenshots, capture video and go to some site outside the game, and they will know reporting works.

  • MUDse.7623MUDse.7623 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Thane.9421 said:

    Did you see taunt where in this video? I have 16k more playing pvp, I have played this game since 2012 and I know the skills of the classes to know enough that he is a hacker, the teleportation of this scourge is not using his common ability of teleport and yes moving fast, disappearing and appearing looking like a constant teleportation.

    I wasn't talking about the video, this whole thread isn't about that video, lol. About taunt, I was referring to this comment earlier in the thread:

    @Vague Memory.2817 said:
    I've met quite few of these hackers recently in matches and I'm getting sick and tired of them. A few of them have a cheat that make most of their skill effects turn yellow and if they walk anywhere near you they are able to load you with all the condis in the game and you die in 1.25 secs.

    that was not about taunt and it was not serious, read it again :D

    but yes there are hackers, very few, not as many as some here make it sound and most accusations for hacking are lack of understanding some mechanics.

    read this, become a better player now.

  • Maybe we all should use hacks xD So we all be equal xD

  • Ank.5708Ank.5708 Member ✭✭

    Did they ever ban that scourge using port hacks?

  • @Balmung.7804 said:
    Unfortunately both pvp and WvW are full of bots and hackers. This is ridiculous! It does not have 1 day that does not report on average 15 players with bots and hackers. Arena.net needs to automate this ban ... it's becoming impossible to play honestly in competitive modes.

    I've witnessed many PvP players using a programmable keyboard and mouse to chain spells together using one key. Using a macro to chain spells is supposed to be against the rules yet Anet does nothing to police this. How can I counter when a players can chain a sequence of spells together faster than I can by using a macro key?

    PvP is no longer fun, no longer entertaining and its SUCKS because of widespread cheating

  • Aenaos.8160Aenaos.8160 Member ✭✭✭

    You should change the tittle to "Hackers in GW2" and post it in general chat.
    They are everywhere,PvE ,PvP and WvW,and they don't even bother to cover or hide their tracks.
    They just use speed/TP/flight hacks right in front of other players like they don't give a kitten.
    I report them for botting,but I won't even bother to go through the process of contacting support.
    Hacker reporting should be streamlined and easily accessible while in game.
    There was a post in these forums and in Reddit of how this is done,the program that's used etc.
    Hopefully what seems to us as inactivity on the side of Anet,is really them gathering data on how to
    combat this.

  • Pimsley.3681Pimsley.3681 Member ✭✭✭
    edited January 28, 2018

    Hackers/botters/losers are becoming more shameless than ever from the non existent enforcement by the developer

  • I actually played vs a afk bot in a guild tag [ibot] I loled

  • MarkoNS.3261MarkoNS.3261 Member ✭✭✭
    edited January 28, 2018

    @Deathweaver.8137 said:
    If they don't even ban (or take ages to) hackers and exploiters when the proof is so clear, what can we expect from Arena Net? Are they telling us "we don't care, go do whatever you want!"? Because that's honestly how it feels

    yup if they dont ban the hackers they are condoning their behaviour. is what i read from their inactivity. and i would not be suprised if like 30% of pvp players are hackers and cheaters.

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  • MarkoNS.3261MarkoNS.3261 Member ✭✭✭

    @Pimsley.3681 said:
    Hackers/botters/losers are becoming more shameless than ever from the non existent enforcement by the developer

    pvp is slowly becoming the new jade quarry from gw1.

    Kittenizer Tm in Full ACTION.

  • Zaxares.5419Zaxares.5419 Member ✭✭✭

    I see them occasionally in my division (Gold), but from anecdotes from guildies, they are much more prevalent in Silver and Bronze. (And even so, you may still not run into them unless you play during quiet hours when most real players are asleep.) The botters who are just there to farm pips/reward tracks are annoying enough, but the ones who use hacks to let them win are much worse, imo.

  • Ziggityzog.7389Ziggityzog.7389 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @MarkoNS.3261 said:

    @Pimsley.3681 said:
    Hackers/botters/losers are becoming more shameless than ever from the non existent enforcement by the developer

    pvp is slowly becoming the new jade quarry from gw1.

    Yesssss this! sooo this! Hahaha i remember the good old days of a 3 pack of touch necros moving in perfect sync in JQ. That was always funny to see.

    Sadly now on top of the JQ bots 2.0 we also have many many other issues like the win traderboard. Unless you match manipulate you will never see the top of the cheaterboard so it's not really worth the time anymore to actually play ranked.

  • @yanniell.1236 said:

    @Rap Tiger.1257 said:
    Today I saw a scourge using teleport hacker, unfortunate, but it really is showing some hackers ...

    I'll just let it here:

    Speeding hack necro on BIK's stream MOCKING ANet

    image

    This is the video, it starts at 2:17:00ish

    I know ANet doesn't comment when they ban someone or take any actions, but would be nice to have a feedback on this one, so, you know, we could have a little of our "faith in the system" restored.

    Lmao. Kid mentality. Always think me me me only get bad match making only me and me wah waaaah not fair waaaahh.

    Seem like this kid only think he only get bad maches, so someone please inform him that we all using the same match making system and we all get bad game. Dam hacker mentality.

  • Vieux P.1238Vieux P.1238 Member ✭✭✭✭

    There's this dirty rumor that top 10 players in rank is either bought or hack threws ( wins by using hacks) any truth to this?

    Winter Nerf is coming!

  • Sesbog.8705Sesbog.8705 Member ✭✭
    edited January 29, 2018

    I was once reported for using tentacles as a weapon in www

    Mesmer - Squid, Architeuthis

    I saw how the necro summoned Smokescale (pet ranger). New specialisation?

    Flying necro. The warriors emerging from nowhere and going nowhere

    I wonder what happened with GM Wonder Tree?

  • Trevor Boyer.6524Trevor Boyer.6524 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I heard there was a public discord dedicated to postings of providing hard evidence of cheating/hacking/match manipulation.
    There are people in this forum community who have information on it. Ask around.

  • whoknocks.4935whoknocks.4935 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Just had a match with a mirage with zero cooldowns, literaly spawn 10 clones in one second every second... my first hacker encounter. Pretty bad experience.

  • geist.9173geist.9173 Member ✭✭✭

    I'm not sure if the guy I met was hacking. He played mesmer, went to down state and I killed his clones, even his fake down state one. He had ~10% hp left and suddenly rallied. Nobody of my team died, so this couldn't be the reason. He wasn'r rezzed because his bar went from 20-10-5 down not up will i was poking him.
    Never seen that happening before in those five years in pvp.

    There is still time to change the course of history.

  • Wesley.5694Wesley.5694 Member ✭✭
    edited February 2, 2018

    hackers yes, sure. Some people do not know why they do not come out of the bronze, instead of trying to learn and improving, they prefers trying to find excuse, "I lost because he was a hacker", noobs.

  • geist.9173geist.9173 Member ✭✭✭

    because you just made it into silver doesn't justify making useless posts on forums, mate.

    There is still time to change the course of history.

  • Arlette.9684Arlette.9684 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2, 2018

    I once killed a Scourge with my Renegade, I got banned cuz ANet claimed that’s not possible. :lol:

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  • saerni.2584saerni.2584 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @geist.9173 said:
    I'm not sure if the guy I met was hacking. He played mesmer, went to down state and I killed his clones, even his fake down state one. He had ~10% hp left and suddenly rallied. Nobody of my team died, so this couldn't be the reason. He wasn'r rezzed because his bar went from 20-10-5 down not up will i was poking him.
    Never seen that happening before in those five years in pvp.

    https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Revival

    Some of these will revive someone completely.

    There are hacks that revive people though so could just as easily be hacking as not.

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  • thatdarnkatz.7168thatdarnkatz.7168 Member ✭✭✭

    For those that have claim that they haven't seen any bots, I've literally had to stop playing in a match because a random hocker got put on my team and was literally flying over the map. Going AFK was the only way I could level the playing field, we all reported him, intentionally lost, and next match he was on the other team. I lost again as they just wanted to win and didn't care that they had a guy flying above the map. Gotta love it.

  • Crab Fear.1624Crab Fear.1624 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I see the speed abusers all the time. And the teleport as well. Its not lag.

    But is moving around the map while down, like towards a new point while reviving oneself lag? I'm not sure.

    Soon™ ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
    Bring back Impending Dhuum.

  • I see people who don't take any damage and do a lot of damage

  • FyzE.3472FyzE.3472 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited March 26, 2018

    @abelsgmx.7530 said:
    I see people who don't take any damage and do a lot of damage

    That's just mirage mesmer. This is fine

  • I stopped caring ..just like Anet.

    But... at what point will others join those they can't beat?

  • Bloodstealer.5978Bloodstealer.5978 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Abelisk.4527 said:
    Reportreportreport move on. As players who witness such terrible acts we seek justice against these hackerous hackers, but in reality Anet needs evidence these players are using third-party mechanics for malicious intent. Screenshots given to them is very nice.

    Curious how does a screenshot show someone speed hacking or godmode or minion bot hack. Sure it might show someone using an obvious fly hack, but I am pretty sure that one is few and far between.

    Life is what YOU make it... NOT what others tell you!

  • Bloodstealer.5978Bloodstealer.5978 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Dahkeus.8243 said:
    Honestly, I’m not too confident in this community’s ability to recognize hackers. I mean, I wish I had a dollar for every time someone called me a hacker, because apparently thief teleports/shadowsteos are hacks and not core profession mechanics.

    Go take a look at the relevant sites offering the range of hacks/multi hacks, bots etc and how many GW2 downloads they have put out.
    Either your ignorant to it or simply don't want to draw attention to it - either way its a well documented issue in this game and has been for a long time. If in doubt google is your friend... course we could all be wrong and you are right.... most likely.

    Life is what YOU make it... NOT what others tell you!

  • sephiroth.4217sephiroth.4217 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited March 27, 2018

    @Bloodstealer.5978 said:

    @Dahkeus.8243 said:
    Honestly, I’m not too confident in this community’s ability to recognize hackers. I mean, I wish I had a dollar for every time someone called me a hacker, because apparently thief teleports/shadowsteos are hacks and not core profession mechanics.

    Go take a look at the relevant sites offering the range of hacks/multi hacks, bots etc and how many GW2 downloads they have put out.
    Either your ignorant to it or simply don't want to draw attention to it - either way its a well documented issue in this game and has been for a long time. If in doubt google is your friend... course we could all be wrong and you are right.... most likely.

    I don't think he's denying that there are hackers, I think he's trying to say that not everyone is accurate with their accusation.

    I've been reported several times for hacking and macro's apparently, the macro one more often than hacking... "how can you rotate your abilities that fast, has to be macro" they say even though I have 19 buttons on my mouse and my muscle memory has adapted to it.

  • Balmung.7804Balmung.7804 Member ✭✭

    https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/36050/game-accounts-suspended-april-12-2018?

    The reality is that we have never had so much bot and hacker since Arena.net released free account in GW2. Who is banned for bot and hacker use and has a free account has nothing to lose, because it goes there and makes a new account and plays again with the hacker until it is caught or not. I am totally against free accounts having access to the ranked PVP. Since that only gives strength to these players to continue using these programs. Not to mention what will soon return to the game using the same hacks or even better because the punishment is very light for this type of player ... if it can be called a player.

  • Cap point hacks now, Dps Hacks, Mesmer portal refresh and not be there hack. As well as all the old hacks. Getn pretty bored of it now.

    1 ranked guy right now, total hacker. most people tend to stick near 40-55% win ration per anet almost forces it per the match up system, yet it can vary. He is almost 80% which when you see this, the in the top 250. Those who are not near the 50% win rate, are most likely the hackers.

    Necro yesterday dies and 20 secs later back at our home base, this is including the respawn timer of 15 seconds on the forest map. Now, one time a fluke, sure, maybe something helped him get there. He did it repeatedly so i sat there, killed him every time and he could get to me in 4 seconds approx. Now, no necro can run that fast, even with run buffs. So this guy was hacking.

    Watch the cap points, when they seem to be turning and your looking at 4 dead bodies that have not respawned yet, 2 caps some how turn. This is some kind of cap point hack. split up, 2, 2, 1. Stand on all points and they cant turn it when your standing on it. Seen this happen so many times now.

    [email protected] Write down the time, the tournament name, date and report them each time you think they are hacking. I think ive helped get rid of a few by taking the time.

    There are so many hackers now.. GAWD, its just getting so out of hand. 50% of the matches are hackers now.

  • notsure what made me use all caps here, but not intended..

  • coro.3176coro.3176 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Way to necropost (no pun intended)..

    • Maybe that guy (or girl) is just really good? This is what you would expect if one player is far better than everyone else.
    • Necro probably used Flesh Wurm and/or Sand Swell to teleport there faster
    • There is no "cap point hack". this just doesn't happen. It's probably 1 thief or mesmer with a portal
    • Honestly, I would be very surprised if anyone cares enough about ranked to go through the trouble of hacking
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