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  • Kyon.9735Kyon.9735 Member ✭✭✭

    @MyPuppy.8970 said:
    Sometimes I get reported for winning a trade on sword weaver. I don't know if I should be happy for the report system not working or be sad about the spec.

    Just yesterday I got whispered and reported for beating a burn core guard as a Water/Arcane D/F Weaver. He said he had 6 skills that apply burn and said that I was hacking because he can't stack them on me. Tried being helpful and linked him Ele's cleanse traits and told him that burn guard's weakness is that it doesn't have that much covering condis so cleansing burn is easy. Then I got told that I was using macro or whatever 3rd party apps. I was like seriously? Do you even need a macro for a non fresh air weaver with that 3s/4s attunement swap delay?

    I know there are a lot of hackers, have seen them a lot both in PvP and WvW. Mostly those using speed hacks/short range teleports. But sometimes, those people reporting just really don't know how their own builds work. Let alone how other specs builds work.

  • TechAssist.4635TechAssist.4635 Member ✭✭
    edited December 24, 2017

    @Juidodin.5829 said:

    @Abelisk.4527 said:
    Reportreportreport move on. As players who witness such terrible acts we seek justice against these hackerous hackers, but in reality Anet needs evidence these players are using third-party mechanics for malicious intent. Screenshots given to them is very nice.

    yeah, you know that reports won't do anything, cause they don't care. also, some of those cheaters are anet employers like GM Wonder Tree. well, i cant say for 100% that it was him, just come to your own conclusion.

    I met someone cheating in wvw, using teleport hack, he jumped from camp to camp, spamming skills like having no cooldown at all. I started chatting with him, asking him if he enjoys cheating, he then told me to kitten off, I told him to kitten off too, then he suddenly stopped moving and no more than 15 sec later I was kicked from the server and banned for 1 day by GM Wonder Tree for chat violation. Also, watch how a mod will delete this posting asap :) go make a screenshot

    These are bold claims your making ..... Claims that sound more like rumors and fake news...

  • ToPNoP.2493ToPNoP.2493 Member ✭✭✭
    edited December 24, 2017

    On very op kitten so beast that he/she can carry a team of 5, 4 of which are chosen randomly, for 70 strait wins. Yea, there are absolutely no hackers anywhere in this game.

    Yes I like comms, but sadly I'm allergic to them.

  • I am rank 60 in PVP right now so i have done fair share of PVP ranked games and i have yet to find a hacker.
    I would say hacker who is clearly indistinguishable, he will be unkillable, will be flying, moving from one place to another in an instant, one-shot people but i haven't seen any such player yet. Yes i have seen players who will do something like spawn and keep feeding mid 1 vs 4 and won't listen to whisper or team chat. Maybe they don't understand english, maybe they are bots but its not very common. You are sounding like this game is filled with hackers but i don't agree with you.

    Besides, it will be impossible for ANET to manually check every report and act on that. They will forgive 4 hackers just so that 1 person who got reported but wasn't hacking don't get falsely banned. Since GW2 is online only game simple tweaking to your core game files won't work. It has to be a memory hack and it can be easily detected if Anet implemented something like valve VAC bans which automatically detect and ban hackers on a delayed basis, its 99% accurate and VAC bans are permanent and non-negotiable in any case.

  • rwolf.9571rwolf.9571 Member ✭✭✭

    I've never seen a Bot in pvp until 2 Seasons ago. Out of 1000 matches in the past 2-3 seasons I've only seen 3 Blatantly obvious bots. (Yet to see any blatant hacks past a bot, other than some obvious ones posted on youtube). Yes there some out there, but they're still a rare occurrence. So don't let a few bad matches sully your experience. If at worse, que dodge if possible if you are getting the same player.

    Seen more people position hacking/mining nodes in Malchors Leap in one day, than years of playing pvp.

  • Noa.7490Noa.7490 Member ✭✭✭

    Well, I just came out of a PvP match (for daily) and we stumbled on a Druid ranger who took zero dmg no matter we threw at him. We even tried 3 vs him (ranger, necro and warrior) and his hp bar would not come down, not even one point.

  • Today I saw a scourge using teleport hacker, unfortunate, but it really is showing some hackers ...

  • rwolf.9571rwolf.9571 Member ✭✭✭

    @Noa.7490 said:
    Well, I just came out of a PvP match (for daily) and we stumbled on a Druid ranger who took zero dmg no matter we threw at him. We even tried 3 vs him (ranger, necro and warrior) and his hp bar would not come down, not even one point.

    It's feasible for a Druid to 1 v 3. Especially if it's a High tier vs low tiers. Although you'll more likely see a 1 v 3 with Bunker guards. Would need Video evidence of the Druid taking absolutely Zero damage through the entire skirmish.

  • yanniell.1236yanniell.1236 Member ✭✭
    edited December 25, 2017

    @Rap Tiger.1257 said:
    Today I saw a scourge using teleport hacker, unfortunate, but it really is showing some hackers ...

    I'll just let it here:

    Speeding hack necro on BIK's stream MOCKING ANet

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    This is the video, it starts at 2:17:00ish

    I know ANet doesn't comment when they ban someone or take any actions, but would be nice to have a feedback on this one, so, you know, we could have a little of our "faith in the system" restored.

  • Burnfall.9573Burnfall.9573 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 25, 2017

    Guys, every games have hackers; can't entirely remove them all. Yea it sucks seeing the same hackers but what matters is reducing their influence to other potential hackers. Main overall objective is reducing hackers, not advertising them in the forums.

    So by openly exposing their activities in the forums, you are also aiding in promoting future potential hackers to hack

    That's all

    Merry Christmas

  • 99% of the time people claim 'hacking' in this game it's because they don't understand all the mechanics. This isn't that surprising, this game is really complex, and the mechanics change all the time. Example: guy above who thinks taunt is a hack.

    The only hacks I've seen confirmed in this game are fly and teleport hacks, which I think are inevitable because of how client/server side stuff works. They primarily get used in wvw, and after 5+ years of pvp play, I've never seen them used once in pvp personally. But it's possible at least for them to be used there.

    Bots seem to be a recent issue, but botting != hacking, at least not the way most people think. Bots typically mess up matches by throwing them.

    If you see something you don't understand, maybe describe the situation and ask more experienced players what they think might have been going on, rather than yelling 'hacks!' Don't be like the guy in my game earlier this week who started QQing 'hacks!' in map chat because a FB on our team was using sword and JI and teleported onto point with them. :/

  • i wonder if it has anything to do with the game going f2p. reason being is because i can not see has many people risking being banned if they had to buy the game. sure there might be a few that paid for it that would still hack but not has many

  • @yanniell.1236 said:

    @Rap Tiger.1257 said:
    Today I saw a scourge using teleport hacker, unfortunate, but it really is showing some hackers ...

    I'll just let it here:

    Speeding hack necro on BIK's stream MOCKING ANet

    image

    This is the video, it starts at 2:17:00ish

    I know ANet doesn't comment when they ban someone or take any actions, but would be nice to have a feedback on this one, so, you know, we could have a little of our "faith in the system" restored.

    Exactly look at this link of the video and you will see the scourge hacker on the other blue team ..... I fought against him twice and I know he is using hacker because he was moving fast as he teleported, can arenanet investigate this guy?

  • @Thane.9421 said:
    99% of the time people claim 'hacking' in this game it's because they don't understand all the mechanics. This isn't that surprising, this game is really complex, and the mechanics change all the time. Example: guy above who thinks taunt is a hack.

    The only hacks I've seen confirmed in this game are fly and teleport hacks, which I think are inevitable because of how client/server side stuff works. They primarily get used in wvw, and after 5+ years of pvp play, I've never seen them used once in pvp personally. But it's possible at least for them to be used there.

    Bots seem to be a recent issue, but botting != hacking, at least not the way most people think. Bots typically mess up matches by throwing them.

    If you see something you don't understand, maybe describe the situation and ask more experienced players what they think might have been going on, rather than yelling 'hacks!' Don't be like the guy in my game earlier this week who started QQing 'hacks!' in map chat because a FB on our team was using sword and JI and teleported onto point with them. :/

    Did you see taunt where in this video? I have 16k more playing pvp, I have played this game since 2012 and I know the skills of the classes to know enough that he is a hacker, the teleportation of this scourge is not using his common ability of teleport and yes moving fast, disappearing and appearing looking like a constant teleportation.

  • TechAssist.4635TechAssist.4635 Member ✭✭
    edited December 29, 2017

    Could Gaile Gray rename this to 'Scriptkiddies in PVP'..... k thanks hahaha

  • Did you see taunt where in this video? I have 16k more playing pvp, I have played this game since 2012 and I know the skills of the classes to know enough that he is a hacker, the teleportation of this scourge is not using his common ability of teleport and yes moving fast, disappearing and appearing looking like a constant teleportation.

    I wasn't talking about the video, this whole thread isn't about that video, lol. About taunt, I was referring to this comment earlier in the thread:

    @Vague Memory.2817 said:
    I've met quite few of these hackers recently in matches and I'm getting sick and tired of them. A few of them have a cheat that make most of their skill effects turn yellow and if they walk anywhere near you they are able to load you with all the condis in the game and you die in 1.25 secs.

    I'm not saying no hack has ever happened. I'm saying the only legit claims I've seen, with evidence, are normally teleport or fly hacks, and 99% of these seem to happen in wvw, probably because it's easier to get away with there, and not many people care about our dead pvp conquest game mode anymore. The majority of the time that people claim hacks in this game, it's usually someone who doesn't understand mechanics. Period. I've been accused of hacking many times by new kids.

  • MithranArkanere.8957MithranArkanere.8957 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 30, 2017

    One of the problems that need to be addressed is the myth that cheaters are not punished.

    It creates a feedback loop that causes players to report less because they think reporting doesn't do a thing, which in turn keeps cheaters around longer before they are detected and punished, and that makes people think cheaters are not punished.

    There's two measures needed to solve that:

    1. Let players report better in-game, and inform them how to do it better:
      • Modify the "Botting" report entry to clearly state it includes players using hacking tools or other third-party tools not allowed by ANet.
      • Modify one of the other options to include players exploiting bugs and other inappropriate behaviors.
    2. Let players know when someone they reported has been punished, without telling them who or why. Just a generic "Reports by your and other players have helped us identify and punish a player engaging in negative behavior. Thank you for your collaboration".

    This way players will know how to report players without having to take screenshots, capture video and go to some site outside the game, and they will know reporting works.

  • MUDse.7623MUDse.7623 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Thane.9421 said:

    Did you see taunt where in this video? I have 16k more playing pvp, I have played this game since 2012 and I know the skills of the classes to know enough that he is a hacker, the teleportation of this scourge is not using his common ability of teleport and yes moving fast, disappearing and appearing looking like a constant teleportation.

    I wasn't talking about the video, this whole thread isn't about that video, lol. About taunt, I was referring to this comment earlier in the thread:

    @Vague Memory.2817 said:
    I've met quite few of these hackers recently in matches and I'm getting sick and tired of them. A few of them have a cheat that make most of their skill effects turn yellow and if they walk anywhere near you they are able to load you with all the condis in the game and you die in 1.25 secs.

    that was not about taunt and it was not serious, read it again :D

    but yes there are hackers, very few, not as many as some here make it sound and most accusations for hacking are lack of understanding some mechanics.

    read this, become a better player now.

  • Maybe we all should use hacks xD So we all be equal xD

  • Ank.5708Ank.5708 Member ✭✭

    Did they ever ban that scourge using port hacks?

  • @Balmung.7804 said:
    Unfortunately both pvp and WvW are full of bots and hackers. This is ridiculous! It does not have 1 day that does not report on average 15 players with bots and hackers. Arena.net needs to automate this ban ... it's becoming impossible to play honestly in competitive modes.

    I've witnessed many PvP players using a programmable keyboard and mouse to chain spells together using one key. Using a macro to chain spells is supposed to be against the rules yet Anet does nothing to police this. How can I counter when a players can chain a sequence of spells together faster than I can by using a macro key?

    PvP is no longer fun, no longer entertaining and its SUCKS because of widespread cheating

  • Aenaos.8160Aenaos.8160 Member ✭✭✭

    You should change the tittle to "Hackers in GW2" and post it in general chat.
    They are everywhere,PvE ,PvP and WvW,and they don't even bother to cover or hide their tracks.
    They just use speed/TP/flight hacks right in front of other players like they don't give a kitten.
    I report them for botting,but I won't even bother to go through the process of contacting support.
    Hacker reporting should be streamlined and easily accessible while in game.
    There was a post in these forums and in Reddit of how this is done,the program that's used etc.
    Hopefully what seems to us as inactivity on the side of Anet,is really them gathering data on how to
    combat this.

  • Pimsley.3681Pimsley.3681 Member ✭✭✭
    edited January 28, 2018

    Hackers/botters/losers are becoming more shameless than ever from the non existent enforcement by the developer

  • I actually played vs a afk bot in a guild tag [ibot] I loled

  • MarkoNS.3261MarkoNS.3261 Member ✭✭✭
    edited January 28, 2018

    @Deathweaver.8137 said:
    If they don't even ban (or take ages to) hackers and exploiters when the proof is so clear, what can we expect from Arena Net? Are they telling us "we don't care, go do whatever you want!"? Because that's honestly how it feels

    yup if they dont ban the hackers they are condoning their behaviour. is what i read from their inactivity. and i would not be suprised if like 30% of pvp players are hackers and cheaters.

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  • MarkoNS.3261MarkoNS.3261 Member ✭✭✭

    @Pimsley.3681 said:
    Hackers/botters/losers are becoming more shameless than ever from the non existent enforcement by the developer

    pvp is slowly becoming the new jade quarry from gw1.

    Kittenizer Tm in Full ACTION.

  • Zaxares.5419Zaxares.5419 Member ✭✭✭

    I see them occasionally in my division (Gold), but from anecdotes from guildies, they are much more prevalent in Silver and Bronze. (And even so, you may still not run into them unless you play during quiet hours when most real players are asleep.) The botters who are just there to farm pips/reward tracks are annoying enough, but the ones who use hacks to let them win are much worse, imo.

  • @MarkoNS.3261 said:

    @Pimsley.3681 said:
    Hackers/botters/losers are becoming more shameless than ever from the non existent enforcement by the developer

    pvp is slowly becoming the new jade quarry from gw1.

    Yesssss this! sooo this! Hahaha i remember the good old days of a 3 pack of touch necros moving in perfect sync in JQ. That was always funny to see.

    Sadly now on top of the JQ bots 2.0 we also have many many other issues like the win traderboard. Unless you match manipulate you will never see the top of the cheaterboard so it's not really worth the time anymore to actually play ranked.

  • @yanniell.1236 said:

    @Rap Tiger.1257 said:
    Today I saw a scourge using teleport hacker, unfortunate, but it really is showing some hackers ...

    I'll just let it here:

    Speeding hack necro on BIK's stream MOCKING ANet

    image

    This is the video, it starts at 2:17:00ish

    I know ANet doesn't comment when they ban someone or take any actions, but would be nice to have a feedback on this one, so, you know, we could have a little of our "faith in the system" restored.

    Lmao. Kid mentality. Always think me me me only get bad match making only me and me wah waaaah not fair waaaahh.

    Seem like this kid only think he only get bad maches, so someone please inform him that we all using the same match making system and we all get bad game. Dam hacker mentality.

  • Vieux P.1238Vieux P.1238 Member ✭✭✭✭

    There's this dirty rumor that top 10 players in rank is either bought or hack threws ( wins by using hacks) any truth to this?

    Winter Nerf is coming!

  • Sesbog.8705Sesbog.8705 Member ✭✭
    edited January 29, 2018

    I was once reported for using tentacles as a weapon in www

    Mesmer - Squid, Architeuthis

    I saw how the necro summoned Smokescale (pet ranger). New specialisation?

    Flying necro. The warriors emerging from nowhere and going nowhere

    I wonder what happened with GM Wonder Tree?

  • Trevor Boyer.6524Trevor Boyer.6524 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I heard there was a public discord dedicated to postings of providing hard evidence of cheating/hacking/match manipulation.
    There are people in this forum community who have information on it. Ask around.

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  • whoknocks.4935whoknocks.4935 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Just had a match with a mirage with zero cooldowns, literaly spawn 10 clones in one second every second... my first hacker encounter. Pretty bad experience.

  • geist.9173geist.9173 Member ✭✭✭

    I'm not sure if the guy I met was hacking. He played mesmer, went to down state and I killed his clones, even his fake down state one. He had ~10% hp left and suddenly rallied. Nobody of my team died, so this couldn't be the reason. He wasn'r rezzed because his bar went from 20-10-5 down not up will i was poking him.
    Never seen that happening before in those five years in pvp.

    There is still time to change the course of history.

  • Wesley.5694Wesley.5694 Member ✭✭
    edited February 2, 2018

    hackers yes, sure. Some people do not know why they do not come out of the bronze, instead of trying to learn and improving, they prefers trying to find excuse, "I lost because he was a hacker", noobs.

  • geist.9173geist.9173 Member ✭✭✭

    because you just made it into silver doesn't justify making useless posts on forums, mate.

    There is still time to change the course of history.

  • Arlette.9684Arlette.9684 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2, 2018

    I once killed a Scourge with my Renegade, I got banned cuz ANet claimed that’s not possible. :lol:

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  • saerni.2584saerni.2584 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @geist.9173 said:
    I'm not sure if the guy I met was hacking. He played mesmer, went to down state and I killed his clones, even his fake down state one. He had ~10% hp left and suddenly rallied. Nobody of my team died, so this couldn't be the reason. He wasn'r rezzed because his bar went from 20-10-5 down not up will i was poking him.
    Never seen that happening before in those five years in pvp.

    https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Revival

    Some of these will revive someone completely.

    There are hacks that revive people though so could just as easily be hacking as not.

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