[Suggestion] Make Endless Djinn Tonic Tradeable

Given the rarity I think the "Endless Djinn Tonic" should be tradeable on the trading post, so people who do not want it can sell it to people who actually want it. I think it is currently the only very rare drop that cannot be sold to other players

i really really agreed with that ! is was so long and few day i try loot this thing and i never get my luck in it i really wish i can have him i am so tired to repeat over and over again per day this event for have chance to loot him.

Now that I think about it, the music boxes from PoF chests should be tradeable, too

but i don't think arenanet would care to make the endless djinn tonic tradeable

but i really want is tradeable is being like few day i farm over and over again the same event and this loot chest don't want give me the endless tonic.

@leon.5364 said:but i don't think arenanet would care to make the endless djinn tonic tradeable

Well I got the Mini Junundu tradeable by requesting it here in the bug report forum, so might as well try again with this

On principle: if something is super rare, it shouldn't be bound-on-acquisition. If it's bound-on-acquisition, it shouldn't be super rare.Pick one, please.

ohh..well i just loot the endless tonic is about time after i farm the event 9 day ago image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2018/40/2/1538444203-gw132.jpg

@"leon.5364" said:ohh..well i just loot the endless tonic is about time after i farm the event 9 day ago image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2018/40/2/1538444203-gw132.jpg

That sounds super lucky. I did the event a lot of times and noone reported an endless tonic drop. So I expect it to be 1 in 1000 or worse

@Malediktus.9250 said:

@"leon.5364" said:ohh..well i just loot the endless tonic is about time after i farm the event 9 day ago

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Your experience can't rule out a higher drop rate. I've done the event 3 times, with participation at (approximately) 10, 25, and 40 people (I wasn't in the squad, so not relying on count from that). Let's say that "a lot of times" means ten times (less than a dozen) and that the average participation was 40 people (double what I've experienced). If the true drop rate is 1:200, then there's a 13% chance that you wouldn't have heard about one dropping.

Stats aside, if the true rate is as generous as 1:1000, it's going to mean that tons of people end up with the tonic, given how many people play the game.

Regardless, I don't think it matters whether the tonic is super rare or incredibly rare. It's clearly not a common drop. And, as I said above, ANet needs to choose one method of exclusivity: low rates or account binding — using both on the same item is an incredibly easy way to frustrate the community, rather than a good way to make loot more exciting.

the thing is need to fix is upgrade the time transformation 3 minute is too short for a endless tonic you are agreed with that..the time must we have is like 10 or 15 minute.

When I first did this event on day one, I thought we had to farm the consume potions to make into an endless one similar to how previous chapters we had to buy 50 of an item and Mystic Forge them to an endless. Finding out it was a drop, I knew this would be a hell of a grind.

@Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:

@Malediktus.9250 said:

@leon.5364 said:ohh..well i just loot the endless tonic is about time after i farm the event 9 day ago

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1:1000 is not even that great seeing as you can only loot the chest once per day per character. But yes, it is quite possible that it would be slightly better or much worse. Collecting enough data will be hard as long as there is no tonic API (which might never come since there isnt even a mount API one year after PoF) so gw2efficiency can make stats for it.

@leon.5364 said:the thing is need to fix is upgrade the time transformation 3 minute is too short for a endless tonic you are agreed with that..the time must we have is like 10 or 15 minute.

I agree, there is no reason for it to be only 3 minutes, even for the one time consumables

and i hope arenanet will hear that because i really want the endless djinn tonic have a better time transformation them 3 minute.i mean by that you farm like a beast this event over and over again at the end you got him and the sad annoying thing you realise is just 3 minute time

@Malediktus.9250 said:1:1000 is not even that great seeing as you can only loot the chest once per day per character. But yes, it is quite possible that it would be slightly better or much worse. Collecting enough data will be hard as long as there is no tonic API (which might never come since there isnt even a mount API one year after PoF) so gw2efficiency can make stats for it.

You seem to miss the point: we can't say what the drop rate is, so pretending we know it undermines the argument.

Instead, keep it really simple: regardless of the specific drop rate, if it's rare, it shouldn't be bound.

I hate WoW, because everything is Soulbound or Account bound........ I really wish ANet would allowed everything to be tradeable ...... again......

I agree with this - rare, random drops shouldn't be account bound on acquire.

It's annoying if you want it and can't get it, but even more annoying if you get one you don't want. There are few things as frustrating in GW2 as having an item you don't want and you know someone else would love to have but being unable to give it to them. It just feels like such a waste to have a really cool item stuck on your account where it's going to go largely unused.

is really need be more transformation time for a such rare thing.

I've been doing the vent multiple times a day across my charecters, I think I have something like 50 normal Djinn tonics now. It really should be tradable, or use a mystic forge recipe that includes the normal djinn tonics.

I would be content with being able to craft it from the normal version of the tonic, but so far I couldn't find any information on that.

@Ashantara.8731 said:I would be content with being able to craft it from the normal version of the tonic, but so far I couldn't find any information on that.

Because you can't. The mystic forge does not accept the basic version, so there is no recipe.

if is was craftable in mystic forge is will be to easy to get the endless tonic djinn

@Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:On principle: if something is super rare, it shouldn't be bound-on-acquisition. If it's bound-on-acquisition, it shouldn't be super rare.Pick one, please.

I absolutely agree with this. I also agree with others who have mentioned a way to forge it out of the single use potions. It doesn't have to be easy, but I'd prefer something a little less disappointing.

if you read this post forum arenanet.please upgrade the time transformation of endless djinn tonic make him like 10 or 15 minute transformation we don't ask much please. :'( :'(

@"leon.5364" said:if is was craftable in mystic forge is will be to easy to get the endless tonic djinn

It could require multiple of the normal Djinn Tonics that you get from the event. So you can do the event a bunch of times and slowly acquire enough tonics to make the endless version. It would remain account bound so it wouldn't be "easy to get".