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"A little bit overperforming" is the understatement of the year. The build can easily 1v2 anything that isnt another necro. Its pretty absurd. And no, its not weak to cc at all, besides the fact that it has above average amounts of stunbreak, it also is so tanky that ccing them does next to nothing.While its true its super overperforming, dying to 1x2 would mean that you are just insanely bad, core ranger SOMETIMES can kill it (thanks to not nerfed pets hitting like a truck and spammable maul , lol), killed one tryhard on power onedodgeman(zerk) but it took about ~5 minutes and interrupting all heals out of shroud

its really not the damage but the passive CC, i can deal with dmg i cant deal with my heal randomly getting interupted without the ranger doing anything and losing because of that.Interrupting heal passively is cancerous but no one in right mind would say that pet does OKAY damage now.Player coof <2 pet coof even on autos 3+, chilling slash is freaking 5.5 both x2. Good joke m8

With all that Life Force not being nerfed, that would be great, if it gets nerfed that trait still needs to have an ICD nerf to 90 Seconds.Well, this trait arguably super aids as he gain health in shroud, you getting him to 1-20% and he return after a year in shroud pretty healthy and this clownfiesta starts all over again. Eternal bond (300s cd) that wont let soulbeast to die work only when you are merged, US would save you regardless of shroud cooldown and has 30s cd. Death save procs are worse than just anti-cc proc, why should it have lower cd?

Shhhh, thief mains will immediately point at Mirage Cloak as an excuse...Anet is learned how fix it. Sleight of hand additionally removes 50 endurance ;)

Bruh, I can run full DPS on anything and not even deal as close the damage this class does, this even tops DE stealth spam DJ. Don't try to normalize excessive bursts, they're not. Ranger doesn't have permastealth. Also, you have projectile walls now on DE and on utilities. What are you even complaining about? Try running some toughness lul. Can't believe I have to explain to people in 2020 after dmg nerfs that they need to stop running full zerk if they don't wanna get 1shot. Mesmers can 1shot me, revenants can kill me in 2 hits with crazy evade uptime and their dragon heal which denies a burst and heals them. But you don't see me complaining about that, cus I'm not silly enough to suggest dmg nerfs to someone running around with full zerk, scholar runes, sicem, vicious quarry.Build has 0 condi cleanse and practically 0 sustain. ALSO on DE if you wanna deny the burst just use your F1 for ez interrupt and then shadowmeld > stealth and you've won because you have more stealth than I have reveal. Cmon. STOP RUNNING ZERK? Everyone must run paladin because we have ranger booping you for 15-20k? Ranger damage is so high that doesnt matter if you run your paladin, you will hit him like a wet noodle when in exchange you would get hit by a truck.Mesmers can oneshot you? Revenants killing you with 2 hits? Bro, bring your oneshot mesmer and this 2hit K.O ranger and I'll play soulbeast on zerk amulet, no problem, show me this mesmer oneshots, my pet will outDPS your zerk mesmer.Indeed the only problem for it would be condi classes , still can get bear stance and try to instagib that condi class on its duration. Sustain is w/e as you have stealth/channeled blocks/evades and in this patch brought down power damage quite a lot. Ranger traits were not touched (and its all about stacking damage) and this 50% damage on interrupt make him to crit instead of 12k for 18-22k (on light armor).Its more bothersome to fight CORE ranger with valkyrie amulet because of BM/MS synergy and hit like he has zerk amulet with all sustain and damage and icing on the cake are not nerfed pets. Ok I have to ask, mainly because all rangers I meet I end up relegating to “run for you life or die by my hand.” Am I missing something here? I genuinely don’t think Ranger is that high up the food chain as a lot of forum posters make it out to be. Mind you I have logged an insane amount of hours fighting Kiri and playing druid back in HoT. I just can’t see what all the hype is about. Or in this case, the outcry. My highest burst hit on zerk as Revenant is 7k given the stars align, I can understand that Revenant is more volatile with a lot of options, but the fact the other class next to me can do 4 times more damage with little effort is the reason for the outcry, not asking them to make the damage equal, but rather tone it down so it's not that easy to deal with. Twice is already a lot.^ Pretty much this. And you dont need any stars to align. CC into maul/WI and byebyeIll gib you something in PM :)

I did and nobody cared, now we have an untouched skill that dominates, big surprise right. @Odik.4587 stills does better roasts. But this was crispy.Thanks for the compliment but... I am ? :P You are what? A roast?You’re definitely a pork, can’t remember if we already roasted you, or not. :anguished:

I did and nobody cared, now we have an untouched skill that dominates, big surprise right. @Odik.4587 stills does better roasts. But this was crispy.Thanks for the compliment but... I am ? :P

Bruh, I can run full DPS on anything and not even deal as close the damage this class does, this even tops DE stealth spam DJ. Don't try to normalize excessive bursts, they're not. Ranger doesn't have permastealth. Also, you have projectile walls now on DE and on utilities. What are you even complaining about? Try running some toughness lul. Can't believe I have to explain to people in 2020 after dmg nerfs that they need to stop running full zerk if they don't wanna get 1shot. Mesmers can 1shot me, revenants can kill me in 2 hits with crazy evade uptime and their dragon heal which denies a burst and heals them. But you don't see me complaining about that, cus I'm not silly enough to suggest dmg nerfs to someone running around with full zerk, scholar runes, sicem, vicious quarry.Build has 0 condi cleanse and practically 0 sustain. ALSO on DE if you wanna deny the burst just use your F1 for ez interrupt and then shadowmeld > stealth and you've won because you have more stealth than I have reveal. Cmon.STOP RUNNING ZERK? Everyone must run paladin because we have ranger booping you for 15-20k? Ranger damage is so high that doesnt matter if you run your paladin, you will hit him like a wet noodle when in exchange you would get hit by a truck.Mesmers can oneshot you? Revenants killing you with 2 hits? Bro, bring your oneshot mesmer and this 2hit K.O revenant* and I'll play soulbeast on zerk amulet, no problem, show me this mesmer oneshots, my pet will outDPS your zerk mesmer.Indeed the only problem for it would be condi classes , still can get bear stance and try to instagib that condi class on its duration. Sustain is w/e as you have stealth/channeled blocks/evades and in this patch brought down power damage quite a lot. Ranger traits were not touched (and its all about stacking damage) and this 50% damage on interrupt make him to crit instead of 12k for 18-22k (on light armor).Its more bothersome to fight CORE ranger with valkyrie amulet because of BM/MS synergy and hit like he has zerk amulet with all sustain and damage and icing on the cake are not nerfed pets.

Fear does around 500 damage without condition damage, with condition damage amulet/rune it goes to your 1k damage and with might/vuln it reach 1500. 6x1500 give you 9k damage. Doe it enlighten you?It doesnt "enlighten" me as OP didnt specify how many ticks he had. Safe to assume necro had condition amulet on roughly at 0 might.Its for sure didnt go through "reducing powercreep" prism.Not every CC should have recieved 0 damage treatment, these which are hard to land in melee range, fear clearly shouldnt do that much damage, it would be too generious to give it even 500 damage with condi amulet.

Interesting, there are no instant-cast Fears anymore. It's like that note was already addressed. And if you're not using your breakstuns when you're hard CC'd, I think I found your problem.Reading is hard. Thats what CMC said in the patch. All hard cc does no damage. Since you cant read/understand that its pointless to talk to you, ciao lad.You are a completely pepega if you breakstun every CC regardless of situation :joy:. Thats clearly not my problem.

As for removing Terror damage. You could I suppose, but Necro condi damage is really bad without it these days. Maybe changing it to be something more active like making Feared targets receive double stacks of condis when condis are applied to them while Feared?LOL. Just think what would it do when paired with burn guardian or condi mesmer ? They would be exploded right away.Terror makes necromancer players lazy and kill their opponents not through conditions but through fear. It could be fine it wouldnt do so much damage, may be...

I think you spelled "insane damage coefficients" wrong. But yup xd

Necro lacks burst outside of Terror. For most classes, the CC sets up the burst. For necro, Fear is the burst. There's a bit of additional followup, but it's nothing compared to the other 8 professions. Also, 7-9s feared means you ate at least 3 Fear of Death Dooms bare minimum for their entire durations without using a stunbreak or cleanse. More if it was Reaper or Scourge (as their Fears are 1 second long base). Doom has a cast time now. You can dodge or interrupt it, or throw up Stability/Resistance/Aegis to block it.I see a lot of necromancer "experts" and their "dont nerf my cheese spec", thats really getting old.And what you say is absolutely nonsense. CC shouldnt do damage . What you are basically saying to me "I want to CC spam opponents to death!" which they were against when changed all CC to do 0 damage. With reduced access to stability/breakstuns that makes even less sense, all this people that reffer to resistance which is super limited on certain classes only making me think we arent playing the same game.Let me help youCounterplay is important. Skills that have a major impact on an enemy player should allow that player the opportunity to react, which means that we want to avoid instant skills that do large amounts of damage or hard ccI shouldnt use all my cleanses and breakstuns in panic because I was HARD CC"d

so he goes 6 wins 7 loses?you sure did prove me wrong there.you also mist a small detail.He is duoqueue with what I think is sindrener?2 of the best queue together and this is the result, KEKW Also, win/loses are not everything:First match against 5 pugs (loving duel against the engi, 13 skills dropped on him standing still and the guy was at 85% health lol).First ranked, they got rekted. Unable to put effective pressure, as soon as he drops everything all he has left is to run away and disegage the fight, leaving the thief in a 1vs2.Second match, 3-2 win but because of the thief doing the real pressure (comment 2 5k from ele steals). Ele was sustaining both of them for a lot of time, warrior was in disadvantage in that map that has such huge kite potential. Same as previously, clicking all skills to do no pressure and then running away to avoid dying.Third match, all we see is a condi mirage unable to kill a core necro only trying to survive. Matches were decided when thief put real pressure on him. Mirage is in an awful state, and whole mesmer too. And here people trying to prove otherwise with top player footage against pugs and duoqueue that do nothing but prove it right...Keep in mind, this 2 players with GOD OF PVP titles/mAT winners both and exceptionally good and supposed to mulch their opponents below their skill level but they do struggle a lot. As you said

More like ... instead of IH baseline all GM gives them avade and only 1 allows ambush...? May be... idk, only if it would be just a decoy and not a DPS boost because its hard to balance for them, lol.And on paper (even with 1 evade idk) this might be too strong.If picking up mirror affect EM this would make mirage immune to condis (on paper with desert distortion or something), So only on evade probs.DC, on paper again, would steal too many boons. I would make it only for mesmer and steal 2 boons, 1 feels underwhelming and meh beacuse boonspam is still common.

I want you to tell me what would dominate if Firebrand and Necromancer didn't exist the way they are right now, waiting for it. Rev plus guardian? Guardian ele? guardian thief? Guardian core ranger? Since firebrand is op and it keeps a lot of specs alive. But at least Guardian doesn't have you fight for 2 hours because of power creep, you actually can kill it. That would already be much better than right now.I mean, you are dealing with some bronze level necromancer that has no belief that necromancer is beyond busted and literally unkillable."SHOW ME THE VIDEO I DONT BELEIVE IT I DIE IN 1 SECOND" Witnesses even when it comes to real life evidence of murder is something that can be falsified missremembered and or lied about. People lie about things because they come in with a bias, so it makes sense. DNA evidence for example can prove that someone is guilty, and also it can exonerate people too who are accused.If I would had shadowplay then you could witness me trying to kill core necro for 10 minutes with power mirage and him never evading anything and despite I interrupted billion vampiric signets he still lived and even when I got him to ~20% real hp then 100% shroud and somehow magically healed over time (being in shroud lol) and trying to damage shroud with 50-80% damage reduction is useless and if you stay close you take unnecessary damage from it and the only option is run until he turn it off but hey, signet of undeath apparently reduce shroud loss to 1% ?Everyone must record a video examples, better 10 videos so one person could believe it ? Come on bruh Well, the thing is pictures while good videos are better. You get an idea of the movement positioning skills used delay between use etc. Imagine someone is crying for nerfs about mesmer right? and imagine maybe they are a little overpowered, and someone comes in claiming a bunch of things, some of which is overblown and exaggerated, and some are ridiculous ideas of how much to nerf that could completely gut a class, wouldn't you want to know exactly what the mesmer build is, to know what needs nerfed what they use and all that instead of doing a blind guess?I dont need to imagine, everything you said alrdy happened with 100% accuracy. Imagine you are playing the class for years but instead of you random whiner from the forum with 20 hours in pvp make the most stupid suggestion that he could imagine and anet implement it?Except I didnt exaggerated about level of it tankiness and LF gain are just beyond stupid. Anet loves lazy/stupid approaching, thats what players suggest (even tho my suggestion wasnt 100% serious as you thought before but they)There was a bet in another thread to beat @Leonidrex.5649 core necro with mirage but after fighting this aids I think its not worth even trying, neither that necromain who got an offer too.I apologize for being too harsh before, this unkillable nonsense known as core necro slightly triggered me.

I want you to tell me what would dominate if Firebrand and Necromancer didn't exist the way they are right now, waiting for it. Rev plus guardian? Guardian ele? guardian thief? Guardian core ranger? Since firebrand is op and it keeps a lot of specs alive. But at least Guardian doesn't have you fight for 2 hours because of power creep, you actually can kill it. That would already be much better than right now.I mean, you are dealing with some bronze level necromancer that has no belief that necromancer is beyond busted and literally unkillable."SHOW ME THE VIDEO I DONT BELEIVE IT I DIE IN 1 SECOND" Witnesses even when it comes to real life evidence of murder is something that can be falsified missremembered and or lied about. People lie about things because they come in with a bias, so it makes sense. DNA evidence for example can prove that someone is guilty, and also it can exonerate people too who are accused.If I would had shadowplay then you could witness me trying to kill core necro for 10 minutes with power mirage and him never evading anything and despite I interrupted billion vampiric signets he still lived and even when I got him to ~20% real hp then 100% shroud and somehow magically healed over time (being in shroud lol) and trying to damage shroud with 50-80% damage reduction is useless and if you stay close you take unnecessary damage from it and the only option is run until he turn it off but hey, signet of undeath apparently reduce shroud loss to 1% ?Everyone must record a video examples, better 10 videos so one person could believe it ? Come on bruh

I want you to tell me what would dominate if Firebrand and Necromancer didn't exist the way they are right now, waiting for it. Rev plus guardian? Guardian ele? guardian thief? Guardian core ranger? Since firebrand is op and it keeps a lot of specs alive. But at least Guardian doesn't have you fight for 2 hours because of power creep, you actually can kill it. That would already be much better than right now.I mean, you are dealing with some bronze level necromancer that has no belief that necromancer is beyond busted and literally unkillable."SHOW ME THE VIDEO I DONT BELEIVE IT I DIE IN 1 SECOND"