Terrorsquad.2349 Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 (edited) Sounds pretty radical and it is. But hear me out and let it sink in for a minute. (TLDR down below) Why would anyone want that? If you're a frequent visitor of the pvp forums, you notice some of the same issues popping up: - matchmaking (MMR diviation) - queue times - bots This has to do with the low population and how the algorithm is set up: It searches for players around your MMR and class. If it doesn't find anything within x-amount of time, it will broaden its parameters to give you a match but less desirable result.Example: gold 1 facing plat 2 in same match. Yes, this happens and also happened to me. The idea behind the algorithm is not bad but doesn't work as well without the amount of people (pool) needed to make a decent match.Idea: The idea would be to remove unranked and ranked all together and just name it "PvP match". (with current ranked systems such as mmr, matchmaking, pips, ..) This results in both pools becoming one which makes the matchmaking much more better. It will also minimize (not remove) some of the above mentioned problems (more players, less matches with bots, more equal mmr, more equal class (can still be tricked by rerolling or abused)) Yes, new players will be there too but down the road, the MMR will divide its pool nonetheless, just like ranked does. I believe people queue'ing Unranked are in far more bigger numbers than people queue'ing for Ranked, based on the low queue-times. But even if that wouldn't be true, the pool will be bigger nonetheless. However, sometimes people play Unranked to test/experiment stuff, which is the perfect place for it. Even I do. Perhaps this is the time we drop public rating (or shaming) all together. Just have a personal MMR number assigned to you but don't let other people see it. Perhaps have only the top 100 be on leaderboard. But not friends or random people so people cannot blame the loss of a match towards 1 guy. It just brings frustration, toxicity and elitism all together. So this way even people experimenting can either go custom arena or they can just join "PvP match". As it doesn't hold any competitive name, it shouldn't be too much of an issue in the future. Yes, people will have a hard time first weeks to let go off either ranked or unranked but it will improve the experience for players who are new and for players who are more serious. Just like we lost Solo and Team Ranked. Extra: I'm not too sure if I would keep the current DuoQ system. I would honestly make it back like Team Ranked (you can queue with how many friends you want) and tweak the matchmaker if necessary. This would also eliviate some of the toxic/elitism issues we have to form a party. Many are asking to be minimum gold or plat to form a team which doesn't make a lot of sense in current state.For example LFG AT, asking for plat1+, while their own knowledge mechanically or rotationally wise doesn't add up with their ranking Right now some top players dropped from Legendary or plat into gold. Does that mean they're bad? No. They're just trying to have some fun but the matchmaking doesn't let them and in many cases it's that bad they cannot carry. Yet the day after they're back in plat because of DuoQ'ing with a buddy. So all in all that means that current ranking does not reflect reality.TL;DR: 1. Remove Unranked and Ranked, merge it into only "PvP match": a. Bigger pool, better matchmaking. New and experience players will be divided in time anyway b. Queue times will be shorter. More enjoying the better matchmaking c. Less bots visibility overal. Will not remove them but due the bigger pool, they will be encountered much less d. People who use Unranked to train with their team, can use Custom Arena's (maybe make them cheaper or free?) 2. Make the new "PvP match" like old Team Ranked a. you can queue solo b. you can queue duo c. you can queue with full premade team Edited August 26, 2021 by Terrorsquad.2349 Grammar, clearity 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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