roederich.2716 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 What about different queues for different expansions? Core queue HoT queue Pof queueu EoD queue To queue in either of them is only possible of you have one of the especs skilled. Changing class or espec after your queued not possible. Will it allow for better random team and matchmaking? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inculpatus cedo.9234 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Would this not divide the population by four? I thought it was already considered sparse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobx.1758 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Inculpatus cedo.9234 said: Would this not divide the population by four? I thought it was already considered sparse. Yeah, nothing about dividing pvp playerbase further will somehow result in "better random and team matchmaking". I'm not sure how that would be supposed to work and somehow op didn't explain anything about it either. Edited March 23, 2023 by Sobx.1758 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roederich.2716 Posted March 23, 2023 Author Share Posted March 23, 2023 we have currently the situation that lot of players want to play their favourite spec regardless if its "valid" or not. and exactly that is not possible with the current game designers and their new apprentices who whisper in their ear. that leads to much frustration if you have such underperforming spec in your team. so a reducal in overal possible specs per match is the only way to ever get what everyone is crying for "balance, balance, balance" 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roederich.2716 Posted March 23, 2023 Author Share Posted March 23, 2023 and since you can not "delete" single specs from pvp cause people actually payed for them, it needs a restructure of what can be done and what not and what can happen and what not. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobx.1758 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, roederich.2716 said: we have currently the situation that lot of players want to play their favourite spec regardless if its "valid" or not. and exactly that is not possible How is it not possible? It is, you can play whatever you want. Some options might be better, but the exact same thing will be true even with the further division you're proposing here. It solves nothing and further lowers player pool the matchmaker can draw from, so it's likely it will have the opposite effect than the one you're looking for ("better random team and matchmaking"). Overally looks like a bad idea. Edited March 23, 2023 by Sobx.1758 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotride.2187 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Me, waiting 5 min for a conquest match: no. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roederich.2716 Posted March 23, 2023 Author Share Posted March 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Hotride.2187 said: Me, waiting 5 min for a conquest match: no. and what if people find fun again if the matches are better that way and your 5 minutes queue turns into 30 seconds casue of raise in activity? want better game but no changes? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobx.1758 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 (edited) 29 minutes ago, roederich.2716 said: and what if people find fun again if the matches are better that way In what way are they supposed to be made better by that? Most people will understand this idea still leaves the differences in performance between each build/spec, so it seems completely pointless since they'll still need to play meta/fotm if they don't want to be left behind. Others, not caring about playing meta/fotm builds, already play whatever they want right now anyways. Edited March 23, 2023 by Sobx.1758 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roederich.2716 Posted March 23, 2023 Author Share Posted March 23, 2023 9 minutes ago, Sobx.1758 said: In what way are they supposed to be made better by that? Most people will understand this idea still leaves the differences in performance between each build/spec, so it seems completely pointless since they'll still need to play meta/fotm if they don't want to be left behind. Others, not caring about playing meta/fotm builds, already play whatever they want right now anyways. so is all pointless the best one can do is just leave the game? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobx.1758 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, roederich.2716 said: so is all pointless the best one can do is just leave the game? I really don't know how you went from me saying ~"this idea doesn't seem to be changing anything positively and just further divides pvp community into even smaller parts, while still leaving better and worse builds/specs grouped up" to "all is pointless and better leave the game". Can you elaborate on this? Or don't elaborate on this if you don't want to, but instead just directly address what I wrote above. Edited March 23, 2023 by Sobx.1758 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eugchriss.2046 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 OP what you re actually asking for is expansions only mini saisons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradoxoglanis.1904 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 (edited) We should have all the possible combinations. Core only HoT only PoF only EoD only Core + HoT Core + PoF Core + EoD HoT + PoF HoT + EoD PoF + EoD Core + HoT + PoF Core + HoT + EoD Core + PoF + EoD HoT + PoF + EoD Core + HoT + PoF + EoD Edited March 24, 2023 by Paradoxoglanis.1904 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue.8235 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 12 hours ago, roederich.2716 said: we have currently the situation that lot of players want to play their favourite spec regardless if its "valid" or not. and exactly that is not possible with the current game designers and their new apprentices who whisper in their ear .... Stopped reading right there. Not sure what kind of fantasy world the OP conjured in his mind, but real life really is not like anything in the movies.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frequency.6407 Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 elite OR no elite spec would be interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downstate.4697 Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 No but if they had an off season that was core only, I’d play it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoftFootpaws.9134 Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 (edited) We're up to 5-7min queue times for a basic match that groups players from silver and platinum together. Where do you think they're going to find the player population for more than one queue? Edited March 30, 2023 by SoftFootpaws.9134 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frequency.6407 Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 On 3/30/2023 at 11:20 PM, SoftFootpaws.9134 said: We're up to 5-7min queue times for a basic match that groups players from silver and platinum together. Where do you think they're going to find the player population for more than one queue? If PVP experience is improved, then we might start getting more players. There have been some good suggestions in the forums for improving the PVP. I think we can agree that current situation isn't very good and needs some incentives/improvements to attract players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choya.2687 Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 Well if you are ready to wait for few hours before finding opponents, go ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eugchriss.2046 Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 On 3/24/2023 at 6:04 AM, Paradoxoglanis.1904 said: We should have all the possible combinations. Core only HoT only PoF only EoD only Core + HoT Core + PoF Core + EoD HoT + PoF HoT + EoD PoF + EoD Core + HoT + PoF Core + HoT + EoD Core + PoF + EoD HoT + PoF + EoD Core + HoT + PoF + EoD For this to happen, Anet need first to answer the questions: is smokescale ranger core? is jacaranda druid HoT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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