BumboJumbo.1308 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Anyone got any suggestions that isn't the usual longbow/greatsword combo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mell.4873 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Longbow/Longbow, then use Quick Draw to spam one of the 2-5 skills. The other one I use is Shortbow + Axe/Warhorn, Lots of CC and condition damage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zyreva.1078 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 (edited) Cele, trapper runes. Axe/dagger + sword/torch or wh. Healing spring + 1 other trap of your choice, 2 stunbreaks. Jacaranda + smokescale or turtle. If you don't like traps you can also go for a nm boon spam version with pack runes. Traps are better when outnumbered. Overall untamed isn't great tho, soulbeast is much better in WvW. 2 hours ago, Mell.4873 said: Longbow/Longbow, then use Quick Draw to spam one of the 2-5 skills. The other one I use is Shortbow + Axe/Warhorn, Lots of CC and condition damage. Yea, having zero mobility and defense surely works great for roaming ... Edited April 10, 2023 by Zyreva.1078 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mell.4873 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 7 hours ago, Zyreva.1078 said: Yea, having zero mobility and defense surely works great for roaming ... I have practiced Shortbow + Axe/Warhorn for years so it's a bit unfair to compare. I do have a chasing variant with the teleport which gets reset pretty fast with Fervent Force. I also use Soulbeast too but its not Celestials, so it is very squishy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sansar.1302 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, Zyreva.1078 said: Cele, trapper runes. Axe/dagger + sword/torch or wh. Healing spring + 1 other trap of your choice, 2 stunbreaks. Jacaranda + smokescale or turtle. If you don't like traps you can also go for a nm boon spam version with pack runes. Traps are better when outnumbered. Overall untamed isn't great tho, soulbeast is much better in WvW. Yea, having zero mobility and defense surely works great for roaming ... I play untamed solo roamer , have not lost to a soulbeast in months, even when two soulbeasts vs my untamed. I have about 50 solo kills in 2 hour every day. Druid on other hand i lose to one or two times almost every week ( too many/frequent roots ) I play axe/warhorn and greatsword. Maurader stats and a few assasin trinkets with rune of the Water Cele trapper soul beast can sustain a bit but then they die, and they are as good as zero treat to any one with a little bit condi cleanse. Untamed is way better than soul beast in wvw, but many try it with usless builds often with with long bow or celestial stats and short bow 😕 Edited April 10, 2023 by Sansar.1302 bad spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zyreva.1078 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Sansar.1302 said: I play untamed solo roamer , have not lost to a soulbeast in months And i have never lost an even fight vs untamed on cele soulbeast. Ever. I also don't lose to other soulbeasts. Or druid for that matter. I know you are playing some sort of tanky power untamed and just farm a bunch of pve players at south camp and the moment a competent players shows up you run, die or rely on outnumbers. Never seen you do anything else, so yea. Slb handles cc and immob spam better, is more mobile, has better dmg and doesn't suffer from dead pets, that's why it is better than untamed. Most are just bad players on bad builds. Edited April 10, 2023 by Zyreva.1078 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sansar.1302 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 14 minutes ago, Zyreva.1078 said: And i have never lost an even fight vs untamed on cele soulbeast. Ever. I also don't lose to other soulbeasts. Or druid for that matter. I know you are playing some sort of tanky power untamed and just farm a bunch of pve players at south camp and the moment a competent players shows up you run, die or rely on outnumbers. Never seen you do anything else, so yea. Slb handles cc and immob spam better, is more mobile, has better dmg and doesn't suffer from dead pets, that's why it is better than untamed. Most are just bad players on bad builds. Me rely on outnumbering ? , lol that aint happening but yes mainly hang around south camp. And when did maurader stats and assasin stats become tanky ? The class that i die too if played by competent player is thief mainly dead eye or daredevil and yes i die too other classes too , but not often Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zyreva.1078 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Sansar.1302 said: And when did maurader stats and assasin stats become tanky ? There's more to tankyness than just stats. WS ranger is pretty much always more or less tanky and untamed also has some innate tankyness. Which doesn't make up for it's downsides, but still. Edited April 10, 2023 by Zyreva.1078 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sansar.1302 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Zyreva.1078 said: There's more to tankyness than just stats. WS ranger is pretty much always more or less tanky and untamed also has some innate tankyness. Which doesn't make up for it's downsides, but still. want to duel some day ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zyreva.1078 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Sansar.1302 said: want to duel some day ? Roaming =/= dueling. But i don't mind. But for today i'm off. Edited April 10, 2023 by Zyreva.1078 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyBat.9034 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Sansar.1302 said: I play untamed solo roamer , have not lost to a soulbeast in months, even when two soulbeasts vs my untamed. I have about 50 solo kills in 2 hour every day. Druid on other hand i lose to one or two times almost every week ( too many/frequent roots ) I play axe/warhorn and greatsword. Maurader stats and a few assasin trinkets with rune of the Water Cele trapper soul beast can sustain a bit but then they die, and they are as good as zero treat to any one with a little bit condi cleanse. Untamed is way better than soul beast in wvw, but many try it with usless builds often with with long bow or celestial stats and short bow 😕 50 fights in 2 hours?! Quick, tell me which server you're on because I see about 15 people in 2 hours, less if you don't count outnumberd fights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sansar.1302 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 7 minutes ago, SleepyBat.9034 said: 50 fights in 2 hours?! Quick, tell me which server you're on because I see about 15 people in 2 hours, less if you don't count outnumberd fights. Piken. It is all about when you play, for soloing 7 to 9 am is the best i think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joxer.6024 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 5 hours ago, Zyreva.1078 said: And i have never lost an even fight vs untamed on cele soulbeast. Ever. I also don't lose to other soulbeasts. Or druid for that matter. I know you are playing some sort of tanky power untamed and just farm a bunch of pve players at south camp and the moment a competent players shows up you run, die or rely on outnumbers. Never seen you do anything else, so yea. Slb handles cc and immob spam better, is more mobile, has better dmg and doesn't suffer from dead pets, that's why it is better than untamed. Most are just bad players on bad builds. Like ME! lol... 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ventress.4879 Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 The main reason Untamed can beat Soulbeast (Greatsword + Longbow) is because it can perfectly counter its main mechanic which is Rapid fire into Maul. Any Longbow attack can be projectile blocked by the unleashed pet and any maul attempt can be rooted by either Axe ambush, Shortbow 4 or Entangle. The match up heavily favors Untamed, where it lacks is mobility so in WvW Soulbeast still has an advamtage if they run the hyper specific duel pet build (not many do). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zyreva.1078 Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 As if slb can't use any other weapons but lb and gs ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mell.4873 Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 2 hours ago, Zyreva.1078 said: As if slb can't use any other weapons but lb and gs ... Well, they can always use two Longbows like I do on my Soulbeast. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joxer.6024 Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 On 4/13/2023 at 10:05 AM, ventress.4879 said: The main reason Untamed can beat Soulbeast (Greatsword + Longbow) is because it can perfectly counter its main mechanic which is Rapid fire into Maul. Any Longbow attack can be projectile blocked by the unleashed pet and any maul attempt can be rooted by either Axe ambush, Shortbow 4 or Entangle. The match up heavily favors Untamed, where it lacks is mobility so in WvW Soulbeast still has an advamtage if they run the hyper specific duel pet build (not many do). How the heck do you all react so fast...??? Im lucky to just spam buttons while screaming F...F...F...F...F!!!!!!!!!! lol 😉 Seriously, attacks so arent like NPC's.....but its fun anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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