CETheLucid.3964 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 On 10/4/2023 at 1:03 PM, Chyro.1462 said: Anet: wouldn't it be cool if pistol did those big charge up blasts that you have to stand still for 3 seconds to fire one big elemental bullet? lets add at least one of those in each element, players will love it 🙂 Honestly, I want at least one big bang attack like that in either fire or earth. It should be absolutely devastating if it hits and make you feel like an idiot for getting hit by it. Fun for PvE. Otherwise I pretty much agree with OP. I hope it's 1000 range and a fluid quick weapon that's more offense minded than scepter and staff, plays to power/condition that ele generally toes when they go DPS. I'm pretty confident they'll do it justice. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scar.1793 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 (edited) On 10/16/2023 at 4:29 PM, CETheLucid.3964 said: Honestly, I want at least one big bang attack like that in either fire or earth. It should be absolutely devastating if it hits and make you feel like an idiot for getting hit by it. Fun for PvE. Otherwise I pretty much agree with OP. I hope it's 1000 range and a fluid quick weapon that's more offense minded than scepter and staff, plays to power/condition that ele generally toes when they go DPS. I'm pretty confident they'll do it justice. How about a skill that does more damage the more you charge it (stay pressed on the keybind, limited to a certain time until it goes off on its own) then it fires once you release. It’d give more player agency and not make the skill totally useless in PvP situations. Edited October 23, 2023 by Scar.1793 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CETheLucid.3964 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Scar.1793 said: How about a skill a does more damage the more you charge it (stay pressed on the keybind, limited to a certain time until it goes off on its on) then it fires once you release. It’d give more player agency and not make the skill totally useless in PvP situations. That's brilliant. I'd love it. 👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scerevisiae.1972 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 At this point I wouldn't be surpised if pistol were yet another melee weapon. I mean, making hammer a melee weapon was such a screamingly obviously bad idea but they did it anyway. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ehecatl.9172 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 I'm actually pretty excited for pistol. Mainly for the aesthetic. Plus I think there's a lot of room for Anet to get really creative with all the different types of elemental ammunition they could give it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sythus.2396 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 2 hours ago, scerevisiae.1972 said: At this point I wouldn't be surpised if pistol were yet another melee weapon. I mean, making hammer a melee weapon was such a screamingly obviously bad idea but they did it anyway. I don't expect us to get any proper ranged weapon so gun being another mid-range or melee weapon will not surprise me at all 😅 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lana Del Bae.7156 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 5 hours ago, Sythus.2396 said: I don't expect us to get any proper ranged weapon so gun being another mid-range or melee weapon will not surprise me at all 😅 m8 u have a persecution complex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scerevisiae.1972 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Lana Del Bae.7156 said: m8 u have a persecution complex sounds like a clear case of Anet ele design screwup PTSD personally though i thought sword was crap too when it came out, i eventully came to like it a lot over time, but i will be crapping on Anet forever for what they did with hammer. and while we're at it, even warhorn still feels unfinished to me. Edited October 18, 2023 by scerevisiae.1972 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NonNonBiyori.1428 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) 42 minutes ago, scerevisiae.1972 said: sounds like a clear case of Anet ele design screwup PTSD personally Kinda yeah, the year when like most professions were getting a redesign, I believe ele was left out, we're still stuck with 2014 ele. We're still waiting for the grace of anet to redesign ele so its up to par with all the other classes. Edited October 18, 2023 by steve.2945 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emberheart.8426 Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 On 10/18/2023 at 3:01 PM, scerevisiae.1972 said: At this point I wouldn't be surpised if pistol were yet another melee weapon. I mean, making hammer a melee weapon was such a screamingly obviously bad idea but they did it anyway. Even if it's ranged weapon you will end up playing melee most of the time because catalyst and tempest enforce melee no matter what your weapon choice is. Weaver doesn't force it at least but it definitely favours it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draxynnic.3719 Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 7 minutes ago, Emberheart.8426 said: Even if it's ranged weapon you will end up playing melee most of the time because catalyst and tempest enforce melee no matter what your weapon choice is. Weaver doesn't force it at least but it definitely favours it. This. Elementalist really needs an elite spec that wasn't designed for melee. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scerevisiae.1972 Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 On 10/21/2023 at 10:24 AM, Emberheart.8426 said: Even if it's ranged weapon you will end up playing melee most of the time because catalyst and tempest enforce melee no matter what your weapon choice is. Weaver doesn't force it at least but it definitely favours it. tempest yes but cata? as long as you have proectile/leap/blast finishers, cata should be fine. pistol highly likely to have projectile finishers... if they don't make it a melee weapon /sigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uete.3805 Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 I mean... out of all the pistol skills in the game there are only 2 that put you in melee range (warrior 4) or benefit from being closer to your target (engi 4). I think it's safe to assume pistol will be mostly 900 ranged, with maybe a couple exceptions. I don't think it will fulfil a utility role, but I hope it doesn't step into scepter territory. I think they should solidify scepter as the condi weapon and let pistol be the ranged power option. They should probably do sth similar with dagger and sword, and make one of them better at condi and worse at strike damage. Maybe we'll start seeing this shifting with today's preview? The main problem ele has is that every weapon can do anything, so everyone ends up playing sword/warhorn. I think, however, there's room to promote certain roles within the flexible nature of ele's attunement system, even hybrid ones. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draxynnic.3719 Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 8 hours ago, scerevisiae.1972 said: tempest yes but cata? as long as you have proectile/leap/blast finishers, cata should be fine. pistol highly likely to have projectile finishers... if they don't make it a melee weapon /sigh It depends on whether you're in PvE or competitive. In PvE, the sphere damage is high enough that you're noticeably doing less damage if you're not getting your enemy in the sphere, but you also want to be in the sphere yourself - this restricts your effective range to the diameter of the sphere. In competitive the sphere damage is insignificant so you only care about the boons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iKeostuKen.2738 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Give us a auto that shoots bouncing bullets and i'l be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draxynnic.3719 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 3 hours ago, iKeostuKen.2738 said: Give us a auto that shoots bouncing bullets and i'l be happy. So... Chain Tickling, but hopefully actually worth using? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkpile.7439 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Hopefully it have some new mechanic. Like ele would need to create bullets while in combat and then elite skill could be some super shot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scerevisiae.1972 Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 don't forget it's v likely to be mostly or all projectiles, and projectiles in competitive modes are already quite bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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