JinONplay.8905 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 (edited) rank or unranked, the amount of people who don't even know the basics of their own class and decides to play pvp is rather frustrating. I really don't get the people who plays pvp and haven't even learned how to play their professions in pve. Pvp became incredibly frustrating after they added the weekly and daily missions for pvp (i know that it has already existed before the wizard's vault but it became more noticeable since then). Honestly it would be good if they find a solution for this. straight losses can't really be a good feeling even though myself/yourself is doing things right and has mvp after every match but still losses because most players apperently are treating it like some sort of death match mode. Edited April 27 by JinONplay.8905 4 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choovanski.5462 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 (edited) dont worry, anet will auto rate them 1200 ( Gold 1 ) when they start ranked so they will be forced to fight vets, get farmed and flamed & quit. the new players wont be around for long & pvp will stay dead. happy? Edited April 27 by choovanski.5462 4 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pttf.2467 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 honestly it's not their fault, if it wasn't the extremely broken mmk algorithm they shouldnt be playing with ppl 300 to 500 rating higher than they are 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure The Heartless.3261 Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 18 hours ago, JinONplay.8905 said: rank or unranked, the amount of people who don't even know the basics of their own class and decides to play pvp is rather frustrating. I really don't get the people who plays pvp and haven't even learned how to play their professions in pve. Pvp became incredibly frustrating after they added the weekly and daily missions for pvp (i know that it has already existed before the wizard's vault but it became more noticeable since then). Honestly it would be good if they find a solution for this. straight losses can't really be a good feeling even though myself/yourself is doing things right and has mvp after every match but still losses because most players apperently are treating it like some sort of death match mode. You were a noob too once 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arazoth.7290 Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 24 minutes ago, Azure The Heartless.3261 said: You were a noob too once Everyone once was yea 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crackz.5278 Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 Being a newbie is no excuse. There is just a different mentality. the mentality of improving or the mentality of being a noob all your life. gw2's combat is so easy and dynamic that you can be a decent player with only 1 month of practice (if I mention this it is because it is verified). The different ways to improve are in theory and practice. The theory is obtained from the guides that are both on metabattle.com or hardstuck.gg and the practice is done in the unranked game mode, duels in custom pvp rooms and roaming in WvW. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roederich.2716 Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 (edited) i dont think the op means that the matchmaking is bad but that new players seem not to prepare themselfes at all before joining combat gamemodes these days. like: - people dont know how to play thier class and builds = could be solved with preparing before just clicking queue. - people dont know what other classes will do or try or what is even the role inside a match of the classes. = could be solved with preparing before just clicking the queue. - people dont know the map mechanics and objectives = could be solved with preparing before just clicking queue. you can keep clicking the queue as much as you want you will not improve if you dont make the theory homework. doing the same thing every match and expecting a different outcome is just highly uneducated and unpolite towards other players. this is not something anet can solve, this is responsibility of the individual player. Edited April 28 by roederich.2716 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saiyan.1704 Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 19 hours ago, Pttf.2467 said: honestly it's not their fault, if it wasn't the extremely broken mmk algorithm they shouldnt be playing with ppl 300 to 500 rating higher than they are "What do you mean!? Silver3 & Gold1 players are on both teams! There's a Plat Duo on the other team but your team has the higher average MMR rating! But because this is a low rated game in general, you'll lose -22 for a Loss and gain +5 for a Win! This was a fair and balanced rated match!" - Anet 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pttf.2467 Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Saiyan.1704 said: "What do you mean!? Silver3 & Gold1 players are on both teams! There's a Plat Duo on the other team but your team has the higher average MMR rating! But because this is a low rated game in general, you'll lose -22 for a Loss and gain +5 for a Win! This was a fair and balanced rated match!" - Anet It's Lebron and curry + 3 9th grade kids vs a full high school team, perfectly balanced Edited April 28 by Pttf.2467 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arazoth.7290 Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 54 minutes ago, Saiyan.1704 said: "What do you mean!? Silver3 & Gold1 players are on both teams! There's a Plat Duo on the other team but your team has the higher average MMR rating! But because this is a low rated game in general, you'll lose -22 for a Loss and gain +5 for a Win! This was a fair and balanced rated match!" - Anet You first have to offer your teamates to the rng gods before winning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterberry.2947 Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 Dead game 100% confirmed 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pttf.2467 Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 1 hour ago, arazoth.7290 said: You first have to offer your teamates to the rng gods before winning or add every other duo that could beat you and try to qdodge 'em all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arazoth.7290 Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 13 minutes ago, Pttf.2467 said: or add every other duo that could beat you and try to qdodge 'em all Sacrificial Ritual is more fun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure The Heartless.3261 Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 3 hours ago, Pttf.2467 said: It's Lebron and curry + 3 9th grade kids vs a full high school team, perfectly balanced Ijs that sounds like an entertaining match to watch. Not to play but to watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pttf.2467 Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 6 minutes ago, Azure The Heartless.3261 said: Ijs that sounds like an entertaining match to watch. Not to play but to watch not sure, might end the basketball equivalent to 500-125 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izzy.2951 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 Make a tutorial before being able to join a pvp game for the 1st time 😂 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endo.1652 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 You do have a tutorial you need to do before joining pvp! You have to destroy some earth elemental or ice wurm or something with nothing but auto attacks and a heal skill. Surely this is the best way to introduce new players into the game. 🤡 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuya.6495 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 (edited) Why would you expect competence from someone coming straight from pve? Gw2 pve players are famously unaware of the game's basic mechanics or how to play their own professions. Particularly the world boss/meta event farmers. I wouldn't really blame them since gw2 does not do a good job at teaching or challenging its players. For starters, this game doesn't even have a decent tutorial for conquest pvp. Edited April 29 by Kuya.6495 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saiyan.1704 Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 8 hours ago, Kuya.6495 said: Why would you expect competence from someone coming straight from pve? Gw2 pve players are famously unaware of the game's basic mechanics or how to play their own professions. Particularly the world boss/meta event farmers. I wouldn't really blame them since gw2 does not do a good job at teaching or challenging its players. For starters, this game doesn't even have a decent tutorial for conquest pvp. A bit ironic how something that is as complicated as Conquest, mechanically, is what's keeping PvP in this game alive while at the same time its complexity is what's keeping newer players from sticking around. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddbopkins.2630 Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 I wish the match maker would account for AP as well. Geting someone with like 0-1000 AP on your team is disheartening. You know that person is not going to be up to snuff against some with 20k AP who has thousands of hours on each class but here your team mate with less then 10. A veteran player doesn't want to be teamed up with a brand new player in a competitive game mode. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pttf.2467 Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 12 hours ago, Eddbopkins.2630 said: I wish the match maker would account for AP as well. Geting someone with like 0-1000 AP on your team is disheartening. You know that person is not going to be up to snuff against some with 20k AP who has thousands of hours on each class but here your team mate with less then 10. A veteran player doesn't want to be teamed up with a brand new player in a competitive game mode. i'd say it's a 50/50 chance lol, I have seen plenty 600ap smurfs 1 shot perfectly with mesmer rofl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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