N A T E.3108 Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 Thank you Anet balance team, as always, for your expert "balance" decisions. Through your wise and well thought out changes to Harbinger, you have successfully made it immortal with high condi-output and cc. With changes like these, it's a wonder this game isn't the most popular on the market. ALIEN 9 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuriGashi.5617 Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 No 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamonology.8362 Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 harb? in spvp its lackluster, not even that good compared to condi reaper or even scourge support. all the modern melee builds just bust thru harb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Boyer.6524 Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 2 hours ago, DivineDreaming.7206 said: harb? in spvp its lackluster, not even that good compared to condi reaper or even scourge support. all the modern melee builds just bust thru harb On 6/25/2024 at 1:54 PM, GuriGashi.5617 said: No Pretty sure he's talking about w/e Ckod is running. I have no idea what he figured out, but this build buffs itself with like a 16k barrier every 12s or so, and heals all damage it takes almost instantly on strikes. W/e is going on there, clearly there is some kind of unintended interactions going on. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arazoth.7290 Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 51 minutes ago, Trevor Boyer.6524 said: Pretty sure he's talking about w/e Ckod is running. I have no idea what he figured out, but this build buffs itself with like a 16k barrier every 12s or so, and heals all damage it takes almost instantly on strikes. W/e is going on there, clearly there is some kind of unintended interactions going on. Blood traitline traits, just overhealing giving barrier, just wait the burst barrier out instead of trying to keep damaging Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Crab.6054 Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 Is it hard to play necro? http://gw2skills.net/editor/?PSwAs+ZlNwwYcsEmJmqWaveA-D6YfKFoASQC0rQIgRgv+FAAA brainless, if fishbrain is not hacking, this is close to her build 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuma.1503 Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 Don't play PvP anymore, but tempted to take a crack at reverse engineering the build for old time's sake. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endo.1652 Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 Harb regens health from the blight stacks. Max blight is pretty good regen. Blood magic has a trait where overhealing turns into barrier. Hes probably running a healing power amulet too. The relic is probably relic of the flock. Unless he found some orher healing one that procs more heals. It all adds up but yeah just your elixir heal alone is like 8k barrier with this build. Tbh if you want to be more meme you could run dagger for that life steal skill to keep that overhealing going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadnir.5038 Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 On 6/29/2024 at 7:54 AM, Last Crab.6054 said: Is it hard to play necro? http://gw2skills.net/editor/?PSwAs+ZlNwwYcsEmJmqWaveA-D6YfKFoASQC0rQIgRgv+FAAA brainless, if fishbrain is not hacking, this is close to her build Title say Harbinger, you come up with a Scourge build... Genius! 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxwelgm.4315 Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 Just now, Dadnir.5038 said: Title say Harbinger, you come up with a Scourge build... Genius! The secret sauce OP is surely bottomhurt about is the blood bank trait which is available to any Necro. Harb just gets a lot out of it due to the blight stacks healing them up, but Scourge and Reaper can both be built for tankiness as well with the same trait - the only reason you don't see many Scourges with blood bank is because it competes with transfusion which is still a great clutch res in duo/team play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadnir.5038 Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 Just now, maxwelgm.4315 said: The secret sauce OP is surely bottomhurt about is the blood bank trait which is available to any Necro. Harb just gets a lot out of it due to the blight stacks healing them up, but Scourge and Reaper can both be built for tankiness as well with the same trait - the only reason you don't see many Scourges with blood bank is because it competes with transfusion which is still a great clutch res in duo/team play. It has always been, nothing changed since before the patch. The only sustain buff necromancer got is a reaper only buff... I mean, you can't fault the devs for doing nothing because no players were exploiting a gaping balance hole for several months. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etaoin.4362 Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 I've been dicking around with some combination of Blood and Death Magic on Harbinger - something does seem weird. In addition to the (over)healing, damage reduction seems higher than it should be based on the numbers alone, even with Death's Carapace maxed. I'm trying to figure out if Implacable Foe is bugged and extending its duration beyond the two seconds it's supposed to give. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vyseman.2947 Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 What do you mean with "Harb is now immortal" ?? The only PvP Harb buff is "Implacable Foe" where you get for idk 2 sec a small damage reduction, thats it. Nothing Special lol 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny.7260 Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 http://gw2skills.net/editor/?PSwAYpjlhy8g1iFt0X0E-DaoOkMVCBMBCZE44nAAA This is the build. It's not that complicated to figure out. They recently buffed the master trait in Harbinger to give a 2s -50% incoming damage buff on entering shroud. The last two slots are flex slots, you can use any of the elixirs, Well of Darkness, Armor, etc. Lots of options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felincyriac.5981 Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 just wait for the 2s damage reduction buff to go then burst them down as usual? Not that hard... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NecroSummonsMors.7816 Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 11 minutes ago, felincyriac.5981 said: just wait for the 2s damage reduction buff to go then burst them down as usual? Not that hard... Exactly you just have to kite waiting for that 2s and barrier to go down, if they used healing skill to get it, then it is a free kill. On a class with no blocks or invuln, minimum stab and no shroud hp shielding, it just takes CCs and kiting. When necro ain't an easy free kill ppl freak out xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vyseman.2947 Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 53 minutes ago, felincyriac.5981 said: just wait for the 2s damage reduction buff to go then burst them down as usual? Not that hard... thats also not a big deal that 2sec. I always wait until their elite is down and i can easily nuke them down lol.. so im still wondering why "harb is now immortal" xd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Crab.6054 Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 22 hours ago, Dadnir.5038 said: Title say Harbinger, you come up with a Scourge build... Genius! tITLe say Harb, not Harbinger lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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