Ygdrad.7839 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Am I the only one who thinks Renegade's F4 ability, "Orders From Above" is weak?20s cooldown25 energy costWhat you get: 4x 1s pulse of aoe alacrity which translates to... 1.32s shaved off of cooldowns, 1.98s if you pick Righteous RebelWhy would I ever want to press this button unless I'm playing a damageless buffbot which herald is infinitely better at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarrs.4831 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 I don't know how much Alacrity you can realistically get out of Ventari Herald but I think that's the only way this would be especially useful; filling a hole in your Ventari Alacrity rotation on the cheap.It seems like it's just there for that. Your group need Alacrity, Assassin's Presence and a pretty unimpressive amount of Might? Ventari Renegade. Overall, pretty meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messiah.1908 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 mainly used in raids for perma alacrity with ventari . thats it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.5684 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 @Ygdrad.7839 said:Am I the only one who thinks Renegade's F4 ability, "Orders From Above" is weak?20s cooldown25 energy costWhat you get: 4x 1s pulse of aoe alacrity which translates to... 1.32s shaved off of cooldowns, 1.98s if you pick Righteous RebelWhy would I ever want to press this button unless I'm playing a damageless buffbot which herald is infinitely better at?It is useless. The only time I ever use it is between fights in solo PvE. It has no other use. It costs 5 seconds worth of energy for 4 sec alacrity... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ojimaru.8970 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 @otto.5684 said:@Ygdrad.7839 said:Am I the only one who thinks Renegade's F4 ability, "Orders From Above" is weak?20s cooldown25 energy costWhat you get: 4x 1s pulse of aoe alacrity which translates to... 1.32s shaved off of cooldowns, 1.98s if you pick Righteous RebelWhy would I ever want to press this button unless I'm playing a damageless buffbot which herald is infinitely better at?It is useless. The only time I ever use it is between fights in solo PvE. It has no other use. It costs 5 seconds worth of energy for 4 sec alacrity...And guess what Revenants aren't ever gated by cooldowns, but rather by their Energy. So does Alacrity make sense for a Revenant to have? /shrug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoZero.9708 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Even as someone who appreciates Renegade, it's definitely its crappiest aspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klowdy.3126 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 @Ojimaru.8970 said:@otto.5684 said:@Ygdrad.7839 said:Am I the only one who thinks Renegade's F4 ability, "Orders From Above" is weak?20s cooldown25 energy costWhat you get: 4x 1s pulse of aoe alacrity which translates to... 1.32s shaved off of cooldowns, 1.98s if you pick Righteous RebelWhy would I ever want to press this button unless I'm playing a damageless buffbot which herald is infinitely better at?It is useless. The only time I ever use it is between fights in solo PvE. It has no other use. It costs 5 seconds worth of energy for 4 sec alacrity...And guess what Revenants aren't ever gated by cooldowns, but rather by their Energy. So does Alacrity make sense for a Revenant to have? /shrugEverything I use to kill things, heal, run away, etc, has both an energy cost and a CD. If I could spam SB 4 and 5, I would make a burn rev, but they have a CD. The only things that don't have a CD are channelled abilities that destroy energy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucentfir.7430 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 It could be a lot better for the energy cost. The only time i find myself using the F# abilities is when i'm about to swap legends and I have enough energy before I swap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redfeather.6401 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 It would be TOTALLY AWESOME if it converted Kalla's Fervor to energy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alchimist.4738 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Righteous Rebel should improve Orders from Above further, instead of having the condition damage reduction, which has nothing to do with Orders from Above, the trait should allow Orders from Above to increase the number of target to ten, in addition to its current relevant effects which are increasing the radius by 120 as well as the duration by 50%. Righteous Rebel would become a good support trait, and the ability for Revenant to give 6s. alacrity to ten players would allow for better raid composition, as one Chrono could be replaced by a support Renegade, and if you're ready to have a slightly worse GotL uptime (and no spirits (unless a cSoulbeast takes sun)/spotter/empowerment) you can also get rid off one Druid, as healing will be filled by the Renegade, and a Firebrand would take the place of the Druid for quickness sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carighan.6758 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 @Sarrs.4831 said:I don't know how much Alacrity you can realistically get out of Ventari Herald but I think that's the only way this would be especially useful; filling a hole in your Ventari Alacrity rotation on the cheap."On the cheap" meaning 1 second more Alacrity for ~6k less healing done to everyone? :tongue: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardent Heretic.8216 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 @Carighan.6758 said:@Sarrs.4831 said:I don't know how much Alacrity you can realistically get out of Ventari Herald but I think that's the only way this would be especially useful; filling a hole in your Ventari Alacrity rotation on the cheap."On the cheap" meaning 1 second more Alacrity for ~6k less healing done to everyone? :tongue: I mean, yeah. It's primarily useful when you don't need the healing or really need the damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bezerker.2379 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 It's great for granting alacrity to siege. :expressionless: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooglese.4860 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 It's really good for support in stacks. I do really hate it though, it's really friggen crappy for us though and a waste of energy for any situation where people are moving (most) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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