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@Psycoprophet.8107 said:That's definitely true, I mentioned in another thread regarding rpls trolling pve'rs and stated I was very surprised of all the deep mmos some rpg's chose gw2 to rp in considering how shallow gw2 is for rp'ing.

Guild Wars has races unseen in any other game and stays away from the generic tolkien fantasy of orcs, elves and goblins. Also doesn't have promiscuous looking cat and bunny girls all over the place. I know ERP is big in FF, but if you just want normal RP Guild Wars world offers a lot of really nice environments and lore for that.

Yeah so being a original race as a reason to rp in such a shallow mmo must lead to really interesting and entertaining rping. Again theres weird races in all mmos uve got the tiny races and half cat half human races in ff14, werewolves and vamps in eso etc, couldnt imaging being a rp'er and trying to rp in gw2 when eso and ff14 type mmos exist, archeage and bdo also be more suited for such things.

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@Psycoprophet.8107 said:Yeah so being a original race as a reason to rp in such a shallow mmo must lead to really interesting and entertaining rping.Clearly, it is., otherwise it wouldn't be present in GW2. As for the game being shallow, that is your subjective opinion. Just because you don't find it interesting and entertaining doesn't mean that others don't either.

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@Psycoprophet.8107 said:Yeah so being a original race as a reason to rp in such a shallow mmo must lead to really interesting and entertaining rping.Clearly, it is., otherwise it wouldn't be present in GW2. As for the game being shallow, that is your subjective opinion. Just because you don't find it interesting and entertaining doesn't mean that others don't either.

Just simply said it was surprising to hear, guess that offended some.

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@Psycoprophet.8107 said:

There was maybe a bug when you saw the reddit numbers because those numbers are indeed very low (are you sure you were looking gw2 main reddit?).At this point in time:WOW: 6.3k onlineFF14: 4.8k onlineESO: 1.9k onlineGW2: 1.3k online

GW2 with some other popular mmorpgs on reddit

That looks better lol, knew it couldn't be right.

Today the results are more interesting! Mid-night NA, morning EU, just like the post yesterday.

WOW: 7.7k onlineFF14: 5.5k onlineESO: 2.3k onlineGW2: 1.6k online

I will check again during EU prime time, that will have some very interesting information. I wonder if reddit numbers will confirm that Guild Wars 2 is more popular in EU than NA. We'll know in a few hours!

edit: will FF14 ovetake WOW? WOW!

Although ff14 seems to be the mmo most wow refugees moved to I doubt itl reach higher numbers then the wow monster lol it might though but take few more yrs for sure. I wonder about the NA and EU as well, most comparisons I hear are about the pvp side of things being EU being a more hardcore scene but I think there's a lot of passionate patrons on both sides but wouldn't be surprised if EU was bit more higher numbers.

At this hour:

WOW: 11.1k onlineFF14: 4.8k onlineESO: 3k onlineGW2: 1.9k online

Interesting to note that FF14 is so down, while the other games are all up. No surprise that GW2 has more activity during better EU hours, I expect it to get even higher. EU in GW2 has more activity/population, that's almost certain, but reddit numbers can also support this.

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@maddoctor.2738 said:

There was maybe a bug when you saw the reddit numbers because those numbers are indeed very low (are you sure you were looking gw2 main reddit?).At this point in time:WOW: 6.3k onlineFF14: 4.8k onlineESO: 1.9k onlineGW2: 1.3k online

GW2 with some other popular mmorpgs on reddit

That looks better lol, knew it couldn't be right.

Today the results are more interesting! Mid-night NA, morning EU, just like the post yesterday.

WOW: 7.7k onlineFF14: 5.5k onlineESO: 2.3k onlineGW2: 1.6k online

I will check again during EU prime time, that will have some very interesting information. I wonder if reddit numbers will confirm that Guild Wars 2 is more popular in EU than NA. We'll know in a few hours!

edit: will FF14 ovetake WOW? WOW!

Although ff14 seems to be the mmo most wow refugees moved to I doubt itl reach higher numbers then the wow monster lol it might though but take few more yrs for sure. I wonder about the NA and EU as well, most comparisons I hear are about the pvp side of things being EU being a more hardcore scene but I think there's a lot of passionate patrons on both sides but wouldn't be surprised if EU was bit more higher numbers.

At this hour:

WOW: 11.1k onlineFF14: 4.8k onlineESO: 3k onlineGW2: 1.9k online

Interesting to note that FF14 is so down, while the other games are all up. No surprise that GW2 has more activity during better EU hours, I expect it to get even higher. EU in GW2 has more activity/population, that's almost certain, but reddit numbers can also support this.

Yeah to be honest it's not surprising as I'm NA and kinda had a feeling population was a little more active in EU.Yeah ff14 seems to fluctuate between 4k-7k and the wow monsters always top doggy.

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@"misterman.1530" said:This "quietness" that I've noticed has nothing to do with the game itself. I mean the forums. Is it just me, or are there fewer active discussions, with fewer responses?

why post anything if you get censored for almost everything

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@"Adry.7512" said:Game is super active, that’s why the forums are dead.

"Super active"?Ok, thats a clear sign that you never played WvW game mode even for a single minute in the past 4 years.

SFR [EU] here, playing GW2 since game was launched. EU WvW population nowaday is only a tiny fraction what it was, and according to the fact that NA WvW-ers are massively migrating to EU servers because they say EU WvW is STILL extremely populated compared to NA WvW, I cannot even imagine how WvW in NA region looks like. Ehmm, completely empty ghost town? Something like what happened with EotM because bad ArenaNet game decisions?

And you should realize PvE maps are active ONLY because "megaservers" were implemented into PvE game mode.

@"Deeyra.1476" said:why post anything if you get censored for almost everything

Censored for almost everything?Are you talking just about that automatic "bad words" censorship where some words in post are automatically replaced with the famous word "kitten", or is some more serious thing happening again? Because the last case where a corrupted ArenaNet GameMaster (I will not name and shame in this case) perma-baned totally innocent player without any explanation reasons and proofs at all happened like 4 or 5 years ago. (Because the case publicity on social media, ArenaNet lately released a reaction that "process mistake" happened, and (still without any further explanation what actually happened) that innocent player got immediate un-ban) Since that, I didnt noticed any other corruption on the ArenaNet side, so I assume ArenaNet is clear since that situation.

Sure, some spam threads are deleted here and there, even some totally normal posts from myself were deleted too (well, if you delete ENTIRE thread, you surely delete all posts, even the normal ones from normal non-spam players). But honestly, I didnt feel butthurted anyway because of that. For example that "23 seconds ..." (and something, i dont remember its exact name) thread was "flamewar" worth 3 pages of posts, and was deleted today, include my own totally normal non-flame non-spam post, but ... pff ... just move on =) . Some of us wrote something, then that flamewar was deleted, and nothing serious happened. It was not a thread about some game-breaking critical bug or whatever. Yes, my own post was deleted. And what? I dont feel butthurted at all, because I usually use "common sense". I honor "freedom of speech" principle, but spam / flamewar deletion does not break this principle. Some moderation must exist, otherwise forum will be flooded with millions of "Viagra spam" threads etc. I repeat, please use common sense.

Because your post still exist there in this thread, I assume nothing too bad is happening on ArenaNet side, and you are just "a little bit" exaggerating spam or flamewar deletion. If not, and something serious happening, please describe exactly who is bullying you.

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^I thought this thread was about the forum being 'too quiet', not the game.

Also, I'd be interested to read the 'ArenaNet statement about process mistake for 4 to 5-year old ban'. Could you post a link?Now, there was a recent ban-wave over suspected 'security issues', which many were over-turned, but those were recent bans, and nothing to do with the public showing of that particular ban many years ago.

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@"Adry.7512" said:Game is super active, that’s why the forums are dead.

"Super active"?Ok, thats a clear sign that you never played WvW game mode even for a single minute in the past 4 years.

SFR [EU] here, playing GW2 since game was launched. EU WvW population nowaday is only a tiny fraction what it was, and according to the fact that NA WvW-ers are massively migrating to EU servers because they say EU WvW is STILL extremely populated compared to NA WvW, I cannot even imagine how WvW in NA region looks like. Ehmm, completely empty ghost town? Something like what happened with EotM because bad ArenaNet game decisions?Just because there is a low population on your preferred game mode in GW2 does not make the point any less valid. Many open world maps are quite healthy. Granted, there are some older core maps that are less populated; however, from my experience in doing map completion (just did 4 in the last three months) even the older maps have had enough players on them to complete most (if not all) of the events in them.

And you should realize PvE maps are active ONLY because "megaservers" were implemented into PvE game mode.So... you're saying that the game IS active, then?

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@maddoctor.2738 said:

There was maybe a bug when you saw the reddit numbers because those numbers are indeed very low (are you sure you were looking gw2 main reddit?).At this point in time:WOW: 6.3k onlineFF14: 4.8k onlineESO: 1.9k onlineGW2: 1.3k online

GW2 with some other popular mmorpgs on reddit

That looks better lol, knew it couldn't be right.

Today the results are more interesting! Mid-night NA, morning EU, just like the post yesterday.

WOW: 7.7k onlineFF14: 5.5k onlineESO: 2.3k onlineGW2: 1.6k online

I will check again during EU prime time, that will have some very interesting information. I wonder if reddit numbers will confirm that Guild Wars 2 is more popular in EU than NA. We'll know in a few hours!

edit: will FF14 ovetake WOW? WOW!

Although ff14 seems to be the mmo most wow refugees moved to I doubt itl reach higher numbers then the wow monster lol it might though but take few more yrs for sure. I wonder about the NA and EU as well, most comparisons I hear are about the pvp side of things being EU being a more hardcore scene but I think there's a lot of passionate patrons on both sides but wouldn't be surprised if EU was bit more higher numbers.

At this hour:

WOW: 11.1k onlineFF14: 4.8k onlineESO: 3k onlineGW2: 1.9k online

Interesting to note that FF14 is so down, while the other games are all up. No surprise that GW2 has more activity during better EU hours, I expect it to get even higher. EU in GW2 has more activity/population, that's almost certain, but reddit numbers can also support this.

I think ff14 rn is experiencing their biggest drought since 2.0 (4 months) hence the drop in activity.

Eso and wow had both new stuff in the last month, expansion and alpha of an expansion respectively.

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@zealex.9410 said:

There was maybe a bug when you saw the reddit numbers because those numbers are indeed very low (are you sure you were looking gw2 main reddit?).At this point in time:WOW: 6.3k onlineFF14: 4.8k onlineESO: 1.9k onlineGW2: 1.3k online

GW2 with some other popular mmorpgs on reddit

That looks better lol, knew it couldn't be right.

Today the results are more interesting! Mid-night NA, morning EU, just like the post yesterday.

WOW: 7.7k onlineFF14: 5.5k onlineESO: 2.3k onlineGW2: 1.6k online

I will check again during EU prime time, that will have some very interesting information. I wonder if reddit numbers will confirm that Guild Wars 2 is more popular in EU than NA. We'll know in a few hours!

edit: will FF14 ovetake WOW? WOW!

Although ff14 seems to be the mmo most wow refugees moved to I doubt itl reach higher numbers then the wow monster lol it might though but take few more yrs for sure. I wonder about the NA and EU as well, most comparisons I hear are about the pvp side of things being EU being a more hardcore scene but I think there's a lot of passionate patrons on both sides but wouldn't be surprised if EU was bit more higher numbers.

At this hour:

WOW: 11.1k onlineFF14: 4.8k onlineESO: 3k onlineGW2: 1.9k online

Interesting to note that FF14 is so down, while the other games are all up. No surprise that GW2 has more activity during better EU hours, I expect it to get even higher. EU in GW2 has more activity/population, that's almost certain, but reddit numbers can also support this.

I think ff14 rn is experiencing their biggest drought since 2.0 (4 months) hence the drop in activity.

Eso and wow had both new stuff in the last month, expansion and alpha of an expansion respectively.

Yeah I believe its update 5.4 thats happening soon in, september I think that ff players are waiting on, atleast the ones caught up lol I'm only half way through heavenward expac, still got storm blood and shadowbringers to go.

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@Psycoprophet.8107 said:

There was maybe a bug when you saw the reddit numbers because those numbers are indeed very low (are you sure you were looking gw2 main reddit?).At this point in time:WOW: 6.3k onlineFF14: 4.8k onlineESO: 1.9k onlineGW2: 1.3k online

GW2 with some other popular mmorpgs on reddit

That looks better lol, knew it couldn't be right.

Today the results are more interesting! Mid-night NA, morning EU, just like the post yesterday.

WOW: 7.7k onlineFF14: 5.5k onlineESO: 2.3k onlineGW2: 1.6k online

I will check again during EU prime time, that will have some very interesting information. I wonder if reddit numbers will confirm that Guild Wars 2 is more popular in EU than NA. We'll know in a few hours!

edit: will FF14 ovetake WOW? WOW!

Although ff14 seems to be the mmo most wow refugees moved to I doubt itl reach higher numbers then the wow monster lol it might though but take few more yrs for sure. I wonder about the NA and EU as well, most comparisons I hear are about the pvp side of things being EU being a more hardcore scene but I think there's a lot of passionate patrons on both sides but wouldn't be surprised if EU was bit more higher numbers.

At this hour:

WOW: 11.1k onlineFF14: 4.8k onlineESO: 3k onlineGW2: 1.9k online

Interesting to note that FF14 is so down, while the other games are all up. No surprise that GW2 has more activity during better EU hours, I expect it to get even higher. EU in GW2 has more activity/population, that's almost certain, but reddit numbers can also support this.

I think ff14 rn is experiencing their biggest drought since 2.0 (4 months) hence the drop in activity.

Eso and wow had both new stuff in the last month, expansion and alpha of an expansion respectively.

Yeah I believe its update 5.4 thats happening soon in, september I think that ff players are waiting on, atleast the ones caught up lol I'm only half way through heavenward expac, still got storm blood and shadowbringers to go.

Wasnt 5.3 that got delayed to smth like august or late july or am i trippin?

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@zealex.9410 said:

There was maybe a bug when you saw the reddit numbers because those numbers are indeed very low (are you sure you were looking gw2 main reddit?).At this point in time:WOW: 6.3k onlineFF14: 4.8k onlineESO: 1.9k onlineGW2: 1.3k online

GW2 with some other popular mmorpgs on reddit

That looks better lol, knew it couldn't be right.

Today the results are more interesting! Mid-night NA, morning EU, just like the post yesterday.

WOW: 7.7k onlineFF14: 5.5k onlineESO: 2.3k onlineGW2: 1.6k online

I will check again during EU prime time, that will have some very interesting information. I wonder if reddit numbers will confirm that Guild Wars 2 is more popular in EU than NA. We'll know in a few hours!

edit: will FF14 ovetake WOW? WOW!

Although ff14 seems to be the mmo most wow refugees moved to I doubt itl reach higher numbers then the wow monster lol it might though but take few more yrs for sure. I wonder about the NA and EU as well, most comparisons I hear are about the pvp side of things being EU being a more hardcore scene but I think there's a lot of passionate patrons on both sides but wouldn't be surprised if EU was bit more higher numbers.

At this hour:

WOW: 11.1k onlineFF14: 4.8k onlineESO: 3k onlineGW2: 1.9k online

Interesting to note that FF14 is so down, while the other games are all up. No surprise that GW2 has more activity during better EU hours, I expect it to get even higher. EU in GW2 has more activity/population, that's almost certain, but reddit numbers can also support this.

I think ff14 rn is experiencing their biggest drought since 2.0 (4 months) hence the drop in activity.

Eso and wow had both new stuff in the last month, expansion and alpha of an expansion respectively.

Yeah I believe its update 5.4 thats happening soon in, september I think that ff players are waiting on, atleast the ones caught up lol I'm only half way through heavenward expac, still got storm blood and shadowbringers to go.

Wasnt 5.3 that got delayed to smth like august or late july or am i trippin?

I donno to be honest, just keep seeing 5 4 on reddit and that update has a Sept-Oct release date but I'm relatively new to the game so most of what I say can't be taken as more than here say lolEdit- ur correct 5.3 was due July but delayed due to covid.

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@Psycoprophet.8107 said:

There was maybe a bug when you saw the reddit numbers because those numbers are indeed very low (are you sure you were looking gw2 main reddit?).At this point in time:WOW: 6.3k onlineFF14: 4.8k onlineESO: 1.9k onlineGW2: 1.3k online

GW2 with some other popular mmorpgs on reddit

That looks better lol, knew it couldn't be right.

Today the results are more interesting! Mid-night NA, morning EU, just like the post yesterday.

WOW: 7.7k onlineFF14: 5.5k onlineESO: 2.3k onlineGW2: 1.6k online

I will check again during EU prime time, that will have some very interesting information. I wonder if reddit numbers will confirm that Guild Wars 2 is more popular in EU than NA. We'll know in a few hours!

edit: will FF14 ovetake WOW? WOW!

Although ff14 seems to be the mmo most wow refugees moved to I doubt itl reach higher numbers then the wow monster lol it might though but take few more yrs for sure. I wonder about the NA and EU as well, most comparisons I hear are about the pvp side of things being EU being a more hardcore scene but I think there's a lot of passionate patrons on both sides but wouldn't be surprised if EU was bit more higher numbers.

At this hour:

WOW: 11.1k onlineFF14: 4.8k onlineESO: 3k onlineGW2: 1.9k online

Interesting to note that FF14 is so down, while the other games are all up. No surprise that GW2 has more activity during better EU hours, I expect it to get even higher. EU in GW2 has more activity/population, that's almost certain, but reddit numbers can also support this.

I think ff14 rn is experiencing their biggest drought since 2.0 (4 months) hence the drop in activity.

Eso and wow had both new stuff in the last month, expansion and alpha of an expansion respectively.

Yeah I believe its update 5.4 thats happening soon in, september I think that ff players are waiting on, atleast the ones caught up lol I'm only half way through heavenward expac, still got storm blood and shadowbringers to go.

Wasnt 5.3 that got delayed to smth like august or late july or am i trippin?

I donno to be honest, just keep seeing 5 4 on reddit and that update has a Sept-Oct release date but I'm relatively new to the game so most of what I say can't be taken as more than here say lol

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.pcgamesn.com/final-fantasy-xiv/patch-53-release-date%3Famp&ved=2ahUKEwik3Lisw_zpAhWiBRAIHV7XD_QQFjAAegQIBhAB&usg=AOvVaw2ufrS0akIgMys15hHW_pLm&ampcf=1

What you are seeing is prob discussion about the likely knockon effect the 5.3 delay could have on 5.4

Then again i believe japan lifted some safety measures when it cokes to working from hope and squinix will likely move every back in soon.

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@zealex.9410 said:

There was maybe a bug when you saw the reddit numbers because those numbers are indeed very low (are you sure you were looking gw2 main reddit?).At this point in time:WOW: 6.3k onlineFF14: 4.8k onlineESO: 1.9k onlineGW2: 1.3k online

GW2 with some other popular mmorpgs on reddit

That looks better lol, knew it couldn't be right.

Today the results are more interesting! Mid-night NA, morning EU, just like the post yesterday.

WOW: 7.7k onlineFF14: 5.5k onlineESO: 2.3k onlineGW2: 1.6k online

I will check again during EU prime time, that will have some very interesting information. I wonder if reddit numbers will confirm that Guild Wars 2 is more popular in EU than NA. We'll know in a few hours!

edit: will FF14 ovetake WOW? WOW!

Although ff14 seems to be the mmo most wow refugees moved to I doubt itl reach higher numbers then the wow monster lol it might though but take few more yrs for sure. I wonder about the NA and EU as well, most comparisons I hear are about the pvp side of things being EU being a more hardcore scene but I think there's a lot of passionate patrons on both sides but wouldn't be surprised if EU was bit more higher numbers.

At this hour:

WOW: 11.1k onlineFF14: 4.8k onlineESO: 3k onlineGW2: 1.9k online

Interesting to note that FF14 is so down, while the other games are all up. No surprise that GW2 has more activity during better EU hours, I expect it to get even higher. EU in GW2 has more activity/population, that's almost certain, but reddit numbers can also support this.

I think ff14 rn is experiencing their biggest drought since 2.0 (4 months) hence the drop in activity.

Eso and wow had both new stuff in the last month, expansion and alpha of an expansion respectively.

Yeah I believe its update 5.4 thats happening soon in, september I think that ff players are waiting on, atleast the ones caught up lol I'm only half way through heavenward expac, still got storm blood and shadowbringers to go.

Wasnt 5.3 that got delayed to smth like august or late july or am i trippin?

I donno to be honest, just keep seeing 5 4 on reddit and that update has a Sept-Oct release date but I'm relatively new to the game so most of what I say can't be taken as more than here say lol

What you are seeing is prob discussion about the likely knockon effect the 5.3 delay could have on 5.4

Then again i believe japan lifted some safety measures when it cokes to working from hope and squinix will likely move every back in soon.

Yeah I think ur 100% right. Aperantly 5.3 is pretty massive update and could be delayed to early August. So 5.4 will definitely be later than planned lol.

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@Psycoprophet.8107 said:

There was maybe a bug when you saw the reddit numbers because those numbers are indeed very low (are you sure you were looking gw2 main reddit?).At this point in time:WOW: 6.3k onlineFF14: 4.8k onlineESO: 1.9k onlineGW2: 1.3k online

GW2 with some other popular mmorpgs on reddit

That looks better lol, knew it couldn't be right.

Today the results are more interesting! Mid-night NA, morning EU, just like the post yesterday.

WOW: 7.7k onlineFF14: 5.5k onlineESO: 2.3k onlineGW2: 1.6k online

I will check again during EU prime time, that will have some very interesting information. I wonder if reddit numbers will confirm that Guild Wars 2 is more popular in EU than NA. We'll know in a few hours!

edit: will FF14 ovetake WOW? WOW!

Although ff14 seems to be the mmo most wow refugees moved to I doubt itl reach higher numbers then the wow monster lol it might though but take few more yrs for sure. I wonder about the NA and EU as well, most comparisons I hear are about the pvp side of things being EU being a more hardcore scene but I think there's a lot of passionate patrons on both sides but wouldn't be surprised if EU was bit more higher numbers.

At this hour:

WOW: 11.1k onlineFF14: 4.8k onlineESO: 3k onlineGW2: 1.9k online

Interesting to note that FF14 is so down, while the other games are all up. No surprise that GW2 has more activity during better EU hours, I expect it to get even higher. EU in GW2 has more activity/population, that's almost certain, but reddit numbers can also support this.

I think ff14 rn is experiencing their biggest drought since 2.0 (4 months) hence the drop in activity.

Eso and wow had both new stuff in the last month, expansion and alpha of an expansion respectively.

Yeah I believe its update 5.4 thats happening soon in, september I think that ff players are waiting on, atleast the ones caught up lol I'm only half way through heavenward expac, still got storm blood and shadowbringers to go.

Wasnt 5.3 that got delayed to smth like august or late july or am i trippin?

I donno to be honest, just keep seeing 5 4 on reddit and that update has a Sept-Oct release date but I'm relatively new to the game so most of what I say can't be taken as more than here say lol

What you are seeing is prob discussion about the likely knockon effect the 5.3 delay could have on 5.4

Then again i believe japan lifted some safety measures when it cokes to working from hope and squinix will likely move every back in soon.

Yeah I think ur 100% right. Aperantly 5.3 is pretty massive update and could be delayed to early August. So 5.4 will definitely be later than planned lol.

5.3 basically brings the new player exprience, reworks/condenses arr campaign and i think post msq arr and also brings flying to the 2.0 zones. All that on top of your usuall .x stuff.

Honestly i have no idea what they will do with 5.4, maybe delay 5.3 further and tryna merge what they got for 5.4 with it? Time will tell.

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@lare.5129 said:no time to post - people play

Haha yeah that's it. Makes sense and aligns with the high population and climbing everyone is boosting about in threads. Guess if game had comics written after it and those comics were super popular than means game sucks or unpopular cuz the readers would be playing the game and not reading the comics, it's not cuz the games so popular it led to a lot of interest into the comics right? Lol ur guys should know u cant just twist logic to fit ur agenda right?.

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@zealex.9410 said:

There was maybe a bug when you saw the reddit numbers because those numbers are indeed very low (are you sure you were looking gw2 main reddit?).At this point in time:WOW: 6.3k onlineFF14: 4.8k onlineESO: 1.9k onlineGW2: 1.3k online

GW2 with some other popular mmorpgs on reddit

That looks better lol, knew it couldn't be right.

Today the results are more interesting! Mid-night NA, morning EU, just like the post yesterday.

WOW: 7.7k onlineFF14: 5.5k onlineESO: 2.3k onlineGW2: 1.6k online

I will check again during EU prime time, that will have some very interesting information. I wonder if reddit numbers will confirm that Guild Wars 2 is more popular in EU than NA. We'll know in a few hours!

edit: will FF14 ovetake WOW? WOW!

Although ff14 seems to be the mmo most wow refugees moved to I doubt itl reach higher numbers then the wow monster lol it might though but take few more yrs for sure. I wonder about the NA and EU as well, most comparisons I hear are about the pvp side of things being EU being a more hardcore scene but I think there's a lot of passionate patrons on both sides but wouldn't be surprised if EU was bit more higher numbers.

At this hour:

WOW: 11.1k onlineFF14: 4.8k onlineESO: 3k onlineGW2: 1.9k online

Interesting to note that FF14 is so down, while the other games are all up. No surprise that GW2 has more activity during better EU hours, I expect it to get even higher. EU in GW2 has more activity/population, that's almost certain, but reddit numbers can also support this.

I think ff14 rn is experiencing their biggest drought since 2.0 (4 months) hence the drop in activity.

Eso and wow had both new stuff in the last month, expansion and alpha of an expansion respectively.

Yeah I believe its update 5.4 thats happening soon in, september I think that ff players are waiting on, atleast the ones caught up lol I'm only half way through heavenward expac, still got storm blood and shadowbringers to go.

Wasnt 5.3 that got delayed to smth like august or late july or am i trippin?

I donno to be honest, just keep seeing 5 4 on reddit and that update has a Sept-Oct release date but I'm relatively new to the game so most of what I say can't be taken as more than here say lol

What you are seeing is prob discussion about the likely knockon effect the 5.3 delay could have on 5.4

Then again i believe japan lifted some safety measures when it cokes to working from hope and squinix will likely move every back in soon.

Yeah I think ur 100% right. Aperantly 5.3 is pretty massive update and could be delayed to early August. So 5.4 will definitely be later than planned lol.

5.3 basically brings the new player exprience, reworks/condenses arr campaign and i think post msq arr and also bring flying to the 2.0 zones. All that on top of your usuall .x stuff.

Honestly i have no idea what they will do with 5.4, mayne delay 5.3 further and tryna merge what they got for 5.4 with it? Time will tell.

Yeah actually delaying and merging it would probably be a great idea.The reworking of rrb is a good idea, story in it was good but bloated but heavenward is 10x better so far and aperantly the expacs get better and better so looking forward to storm blood and and shadowbringers. The 100 quests from end of rrb and heavensward are prob the worse barrier new players have to face, be good if they addressed it.

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There was maybe a bug when you saw the reddit numbers because those numbers are indeed very low (are you sure you were looking gw2 main reddit?).At this point in time:WOW: 6.3k onlineFF14: 4.8k onlineESO: 1.9k onlineGW2: 1.3k online

GW2 with some other popular mmorpgs on reddit

That looks better lol, knew it couldn't be right.

Today the results are more interesting! Mid-night NA, morning EU, just like the post yesterday.

WOW: 7.7k onlineFF14: 5.5k onlineESO: 2.3k onlineGW2: 1.6k online

I will check again during EU prime time, that will have some very interesting information. I wonder if reddit numbers will confirm that Guild Wars 2 is more popular in EU than NA. We'll know in a few hours!

edit: will FF14 ovetake WOW? WOW!

Although ff14 seems to be the mmo most wow refugees moved to I doubt itl reach higher numbers then the wow monster lol it might though but take few more yrs for sure. I wonder about the NA and EU as well, most comparisons I hear are about the pvp side of things being EU being a more hardcore scene but I think there's a lot of passionate patrons on both sides but wouldn't be surprised if EU was bit more higher numbers.

At this hour:

WOW: 11.1k onlineFF14: 4.8k onlineESO: 3k onlineGW2: 1.9k online

Interesting to note that FF14 is so down, while the other games are all up. No surprise that GW2 has more activity during better EU hours, I expect it to get even higher. EU in GW2 has more activity/population, that's almost certain, but reddit numbers can also support this.

I think ff14 rn is experiencing their biggest drought since 2.0 (4 months) hence the drop in activity.

Eso and wow had both new stuff in the last month, expansion and alpha of an expansion respectively.

Yeah I believe its update 5.4 thats happening soon in, september I think that ff players are waiting on, atleast the ones caught up lol I'm only half way through heavenward expac, still got storm blood and shadowbringers to go.

Wasnt 5.3 that got delayed to smth like august or late july or am i trippin?

I donno to be honest, just keep seeing 5 4 on reddit and that update has a Sept-Oct release date but I'm relatively new to the game so most of what I say can't be taken as more than here say lol

What you are seeing is prob discussion about the likely knockon effect the 5.3 delay could have on 5.4

Then again i believe japan lifted some safety measures when it cokes to working from hope and squinix will likely move every back in soon.

Yeah I think ur 100% right. Aperantly 5.3 is pretty massive update and could be delayed to early August. So 5.4 will definitely be later than planned lol.

5.3 basically brings the new player exprience, reworks/condenses arr campaign and i think post msq arr and also bring flying to the 2.0 zones. All that on top of your usuall .x stuff.

Honestly i have no idea what they will do with 5.4, mayne delay 5.3 further and tryna merge what they got for 5.4 with it? Time will tell.

Yeah actually delaying and merging it would probably be a great idea.The reworking of rrb is a good idea, story in it was good but bloated but heavenward is 10x better so far and aperantly the expacs get better and better so looking forward to storm blood and and shadowbringers. The 100 quests from end of rrb and heavensward are prob the worse barrier new players have to face, be good if they addressed it.

Stormblood msq is kinda doodoo but post msq its great, Shadowbringers is peak sp storytelling imo, it rivals good sp games and put any story driven mmo to shame.

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There was maybe a bug when you saw the reddit numbers because those numbers are indeed very low (are you sure you were looking gw2 main reddit?).At this point in time:WOW: 6.3k onlineFF14: 4.8k onlineESO: 1.9k onlineGW2: 1.3k online

GW2 with some other popular mmorpgs on reddit

That looks better lol, knew it couldn't be right.

Today the results are more interesting! Mid-night NA, morning EU, just like the post yesterday.

WOW: 7.7k onlineFF14: 5.5k onlineESO: 2.3k onlineGW2: 1.6k online

I will check again during EU prime time, that will have some very interesting information. I wonder if reddit numbers will confirm that Guild Wars 2 is more popular in EU than NA. We'll know in a few hours!

edit: will FF14 ovetake WOW? WOW!

Although ff14 seems to be the mmo most wow refugees moved to I doubt itl reach higher numbers then the wow monster lol it might though but take few more yrs for sure. I wonder about the NA and EU as well, most comparisons I hear are about the pvp side of things being EU being a more hardcore scene but I think there's a lot of passionate patrons on both sides but wouldn't be surprised if EU was bit more higher numbers.

At this hour:

WOW: 11.1k onlineFF14: 4.8k onlineESO: 3k onlineGW2: 1.9k online

Interesting to note that FF14 is so down, while the other games are all up. No surprise that GW2 has more activity during better EU hours, I expect it to get even higher. EU in GW2 has more activity/population, that's almost certain, but reddit numbers can also support this.

I think ff14 rn is experiencing their biggest drought since 2.0 (4 months) hence the drop in activity.

Eso and wow had both new stuff in the last month, expansion and alpha of an expansion respectively.

Yeah I believe its update 5.4 thats happening soon in, september I think that ff players are waiting on, atleast the ones caught up lol I'm only half way through heavenward expac, still got storm blood and shadowbringers to go.

Wasnt 5.3 that got delayed to smth like august or late july or am i trippin?

I donno to be honest, just keep seeing 5 4 on reddit and that update has a Sept-Oct release date but I'm relatively new to the game so most of what I say can't be taken as more than here say lol

What you are seeing is prob discussion about the likely knockon effect the 5.3 delay could have on 5.4

Then again i believe japan lifted some safety measures when it cokes to working from hope and squinix will likely move every back in soon.

Yeah I think ur 100% right. Aperantly 5.3 is pretty massive update and could be delayed to early August. So 5.4 will definitely be later than planned lol.

5.3 basically brings the new player exprience, reworks/condenses arr campaign and i think post msq arr and also bring flying to the 2.0 zones. All that on top of your usuall .x stuff.

Honestly i have no idea what they will do with 5.4, mayne delay 5.3 further and tryna merge what they got for 5.4 with it? Time will tell.

Yeah actually delaying and merging it would probably be a great idea.The reworking of rrb is a good idea, story in it was good but bloated but heavenward is 10x better so far and aperantly the expacs get better and better so looking forward to storm blood and and shadowbringers. The 100 quests from end of rrb and heavensward are prob the worse barrier new players have to face, be good if they addressed it.

Stormblood msq is kinda doodoo but post msq its great, Shadowbringers is peak sp storytelling imo, it rivals good sp games and put any story driven mmo to shame.

Nice! I'm looking forward to it, I just finished the msq that gives u the dragon mount lv 59 :)So far the heavensward msq have been entertaining and some of the cut scenes crazy lol. It's as I say feels like a rpg story vs typical mmo.I find having both gw2 and ff14 on the go works good for me so far as with gw2 I'm not a fan of the story or its characters but I enjoy the pvp in small bouts as the combats top notch in gw2 and its quickly accessible which is great. When the gfs making eats or if were doing something soon I can pop into gw2 for few pvp matches for a fix and if my evening is free for hr or more that's where ff comes in. I'm sam main so quing pvp as dps takes like 20 mins lol.

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@"Inculpatus cedo.9234" said:^I thought this thread was about the forum being 'too quiet', not the game.

Also, I'd be interested to read the 'ArenaNet statement about process mistake for 4 to 5-year old ban'. Could you post a link?Now, there was a recent ban-wave over suspected 'security issues', which many were over-turned, but those were recent bans, and nothing to do with the public showing of that particular ban many years ago.

link here:https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/4b9o7h/ban_out_of_blue/Warning: Please use common sense and use this link only as a proof that nothing, even an Official Customer Service staff, cannot be 100% totally corruption-proof. You know, sometimes bad power-abusing people or bad things happen everywhere (I hope only extremely rarely), nothing in real world is 100% totally perfect and flawless, but I believe vast majority of these bans were well deserved hack / exploit massive abusers, or real double-proof-checked RMT traders. I think these bad corrupted thing happen only extremely rarely.

Also, speaking about my own experience with ArenaNet Customer Service Support, my only one "interaction" with them was roughly 7 years ago - around two weeks after game was launched - when my character became completely stucked because of broken bugged personal story instanced quest zone. I send ingame ticket, go sleep, next day after work I logged into game and found my character in open world map with fixed quest progress. So technically speaking, my one "interaction" with Customer Service was 100% positive. Otherwise I am just reporting some blatant hackers when I see them, and thats all. Speaking about myself, I never experienced any negative behaviour from any official ArenaNet staff (probably because I always play fair-play, never any RMT, no exploits / hacks / whatever other bad things), I only know some bad things happened to some innocent ppl, so in my previous post, I was just asked to be sure that nothing REALLY bad happened to that player who was complaining about excessive censorship.

As I said, I believe ArenaNet is clear in this matter today, especially if Dornsinger is still lead GM. I like his way of argumentation, I thinks hes trusted person (at least from his post I saw on reddit).

Please dont misuse that link ... just as ancient Romans were saying -"Qui custodied ipsos custodes?" - I slighty modify that to " just keep watching the watchers".

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