Zunki.3916 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Not my vid, but some might be interested: I knew it's gonna be good but didn't expect it to be that good :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auburner.6945 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Too much movement though. Still worth trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nath Forge Tempete.1645 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 too bad that Fire-earth -weaver is so poor in self boon generation. I would have enjoyed running this build everywhere in pve (not only raids and fractals) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NICENIKESHOE.7128 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Dat 15 characters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solemn.9608 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 That looks fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jski.6180 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Meh pve when will ppl realize dmg like this is so pointless in this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigmoid.7082 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 How much is coming from flame wall and the flame wall from burning speed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auburner.6945 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 For the luls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixit.7189 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 nice!you think this is usable in open world without having to rely on boons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazySummer.2568 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 inb4 nerf because golem benchmarks and ele end up even more useless than before at anything that's not golems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steki.1478 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 @fixit.7189 said:nice!you think this is usable in open world without having to rely on boons?Every dps build is usable in open world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Red Arachnid.2493 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 The biggest problem I have is that I don't have any more gold to make a condi set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zencow.3651 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 I finally get to use my binding of ipos more yay!Strength of Stone nerf is pretty dumb though, all because of Earthen Rush immobing bosses more then once and now the bleeds don't apply as well for multitarget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zunki.3916 Posted July 19, 2019 Author Share Posted July 19, 2019 @"zencow.3651" said:I finally get to use my binding of ipos more yay!Strength of Stone nerf is pretty dumb though, all because of Earthen Rush immobing bosses more then once and now the bleeds don't apply as well for multitarget"-Strength of Stone: The bleeding inflicted by this trait now has a 3-second cooldown per target."Have you tested this with multitarget? If so it's a bug as the patchnotes state that the cd should be per target.Also, it really hurt arcane surge with arcane power, that was a huge dmg cd...And when they have the tech to have cds per target, why not add this tech to blinding ashes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nath Forge Tempete.1645 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 @steki.1478 said:@fixit.7189 said:nice!you think this is usable in open world without having to rely on boons?Every dps build is usable in open world.well compared to classes like Guard - engineer - warrior - necromancer ... playing a dps build as an ele in open world can be painfull. So it was actually an interesting question (for me at least) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steki.1478 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 @Nath Forge Tempete.1645 said:@steki.1478 said:@fixit.7189 said:nice!you think this is usable in open world without having to rely on boons?Every dps build is usable in open world.well compared to classes like Guard - engineer - warrior - necromancer ... playing a dps build as an ele in open world can be painfull. So it was actually an interesting question (for me at least)It cant get much better than FA tempest. Aoe for days, good stab uptime, stun break every 5-6 seconds, tons of blinds, strong burst from range (scepter), good sustained dps, insane rally potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nath Forge Tempete.1645 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 @steki.1478 said:@Nath Forge Tempete.1645 said:@steki.1478 said:@fixit.7189 said:nice!you think this is usable in open world without having to rely on boons?Every dps build is usable in open world.well compared to classes like Guard - engineer - warrior - necromancer ... playing a dps build as an ele in open world can be painfull. So it was actually an interesting question (for me at least)It cant get much better than FA tempest. Aoe for days, good stab uptime, stun break every 5-6 seconds, tons of blinds, strong burst from range (scepter), good sustained dps, insane rally potential. Do you mind create a link with that? I'm interested to see what it looks like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aigleborgne.2981 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 @steki.1478 said:@Nath Forge Tempete.1645 said:@steki.1478 said:@fixit.7189 said:nice!you think this is usable in open world without having to rely on boons?Every dps build is usable in open world.well compared to classes like Guard - engineer - warrior - necromancer ... playing a dps build as an ele in open world can be painfull. So it was actually an interesting question (for me at least)It cant get much better than FA tempest. Aoe for days, good stab uptime, stun break every 5-6 seconds, tons of blinds, strong burst from range (scepter), good sustained dps, insane rally potential. Insane rally potential? Are we talking about ele?We only have lava font, which has been greatly nerfed. And if you are facing multiple archers, it doesn't help much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jan.7915 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 @Aigleborgne.2981 said:@steki.1478 said:@Nath Forge Tempete.1645 said:@steki.1478 said:@fixit.7189 said:nice!you think this is usable in open world without having to rely on boons?Every dps build is usable in open world.well compared to classes like Guard - engineer - warrior - necromancer ... playing a dps build as an ele in open world can be painfull. So it was actually an interesting question (for me at least)It cant get much better than FA tempest. Aoe for days, good stab uptime, stun break every 5-6 seconds, tons of blinds, strong burst from range (scepter), good sustained dps, insane rally potential. Insane rally potential? Are we talking about ele?We only have lava font, which has been greatly nerfed. And if you are facing multiple archers, it doesn't help much. I'm getting up a lot on my ele because of aoe Keep on ticking.@Nath Forge Tempete.1645 this is pre buff and I didn't find time to change build and try but this is very easily played and very strong. All you need to do is to avoid soaking damage which u can easily do with the hugely mobility. Switching Stance often provides many nice auras.I am using berserker gear because I didn't decide on which class to put gear in 2019 yet but I don't die a lot, only DH is better in solo open world well.. because you bursting so fast but tempest is close. But ofc not like necro sit and wait with multiple hp bars tanky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nath Forge Tempete.1645 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 @jan.7915 said:@Aigleborgne.2981 said:@steki.1478 said:@Nath Forge Tempete.1645 said:@steki.1478 said:@fixit.7189 said:nice!you think this is usable in open world without having to rely on boons?Every dps build is usable in open world.well compared to classes like Guard - engineer - warrior - necromancer ... playing a dps build as an ele in open world can be painfull. So it was actually an interesting question (for me at least)It cant get much better than FA tempest. Aoe for days, good stab uptime, stun break every 5-6 seconds, tons of blinds, strong burst from range (scepter), good sustained dps, insane rally potential. Insane rally potential? Are we talking about ele?We only have lava font, which has been greatly nerfed. And if you are facing multiple archers, it doesn't help much. I'm getting up a lot on my ele because of aoe Keep on ticking.@Nath Forge Tempete.1645 this is pre buff and I didn't find time to change build and try but this is very easily played and very strong. All you need to do is to avoid soaking damage which u can easily do with the hugely mobility. Switching Stance often provides many nice auras.I am using berserker gear because I didn't decide on which class to put gear in 2019 yet but I don't die a lot, only DH is better in solo open world well.. because you bursting so fast but tempest is close. But ofc not like necro sit and wait with multiple hp bars tanky.Actually I did living story seasons with reaper - quickbrand and ele and ele was such a struggle compared to the other 2 in term of survivability ... that was painful that I almost reroll quickbrand main . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steki.1478 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 @Nath Forge Tempete.1645 said:@jan.7915 said:@Aigleborgne.2981 said:@steki.1478 said:@Nath Forge Tempete.1645 said:@steki.1478 said:@fixit.7189 said:nice!you think this is usable in open world without having to rely on boons?Every dps build is usable in open world.well compared to classes like Guard - engineer - warrior - necromancer ... playing a dps build as an ele in open world can be painfull. So it was actually an interesting question (for me at least)It cant get much better than FA tempest. Aoe for days, good stab uptime, stun break every 5-6 seconds, tons of blinds, strong burst from range (scepter), good sustained dps, insane rally potential. Insane rally potential? Are we talking about ele?We only have lava font, which has been greatly nerfed. And if you are facing multiple archers, it doesn't help much. I'm getting up a lot on my ele because of aoe Keep on ticking.@Nath Forge Tempete.1645 this is pre buff and I didn't find time to change build and try but this is very easily played and very strong. All you need to do is to avoid soaking damage which u can easily do with the hugely mobility. Switching Stance often provides many nice auras.I am using berserker gear because I didn't decide on which class to put gear in 2019 yet but I don't die a lot, only DH is better in solo open world well.. because you bursting so fast but tempest is close. But ofc not like necro sit and wait with multiple hp bars tanky.Actually I did living story seasons with reaper - quickbrand and ele and ele was such a struggle compared to the other 2 in term of survivability ... that was painful that I almost reroll quickbrand main .It just has different approach. You don't facetank enemies while casting skills, you kite/blind them. When you get low on HP or out of skills to cast (old ones should be ticking on the ground) you suicide, rally, heal and you're full hp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbop.9706 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 @Nath Forge Tempete.1645 said:@steki.1478 said:@Nath Forge Tempete.1645 said:@steki.1478 said:@"fixit.7189" said:nice!you think this is usable in open world without having to rely on boons?Every dps build is usable in open world.well compared to classes like Guard - engineer - warrior - necromancer ... playing a dps build as an ele in open world can be painfull. So it was actually an interesting question (for me at least)It cant get much better than FA tempest. Aoe for days, good stab uptime, stun break every 5-6 seconds, tons of blinds, strong burst from range (scepter), good sustained dps, insane rally potential. Do you mind create a link with that? I'm interested to see what it looks like. might be what you're looking for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aigleborgne.2981 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 @steki.1478 said:It just has different approach. You don't facetank enemies while casting skills, you kite/blind them. When you get low on HP or out of skills to cast (old ones should be ticking on the ground) you suicide, rally, heal and you're full hp.I don't know about you, but if I go down, I have used before everything I have, meaning almost everything is on cooldown.And one lava font might not be enough to rally. In a typical situation where I fought several veterans (melee and ranged), I go down when 90% are dead but one ranged veteran (or several ranged foes). My first downed lava font finish off melee around me. After I have to time its 10s cooldown to move with downed 2 (better not do it too soon or it's over). Once it's done, it might not be enough to kill one enemy, and after that, you downed skills are very weak, you won't probably live long enough to recast downed 2 (20s cooldown) for another lava font.But let's suppose you rally, you will be low health and if you don't have healing power and/or water trait, you might have troubles to properly healing yourself to finish the fight.@"bbop.9706" said: might be what you're looking forThis build is almost full DPS. As survival, he only has lesser arcane shield, I can't see how it can help with sustain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zunki.3916 Posted July 20, 2019 Author Share Posted July 20, 2019 I facetank about everything in open world and it's really easy. Go full condi, cast one primordal stance, every nonvet dies 100%.If you die primordal keeps ticking, then do 5 skill and make some 2 until you rally.With co di you can easy have 20k+hp and even some healing power and still dish out more than enough to comfy kill everything.It doesnt even matter what weapon you take, stuff just dies.On vets you just pull every cd for your condis and they die too, no matter if you go down or not, in like 4s you have enough casts done to eventually kill every normal vet out there. For champs you need some hybrid with healing, but they are mostly easy too, just take some time. With dagger focus you block tons of projectiles on your main dps wep skill, you dash like mad, root enemies, have condi cleanse, invul, blind etc.Edit: Hell you even get barrier from skills and from dodging, you get reduced dmg from foes around you. If you rally spam your primordial and you are guaranteed to rally again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steki.1478 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 @Aigleborgne.2981 said:@steki.1478 said:It just has different approach. You don't facetank enemies while casting skills, you kite/blind them. When you get low on HP or out of skills to cast (old ones should be ticking on the ground) you suicide, rally, heal and you're full hp.I don't know about you, but if I go down, I have used before everything I have, meaning almost everything is on cooldown.And one lava font might not be enough to rally. In a typical situation where I fought several veterans (melee and ranged), I go down when 90% are dead but one ranged veteran (or several ranged foes). My first downed lava font finish off melee around me. After I have to time its 10s cooldown to move with downed 2 (better not do it too soon or it's over). Once it's done, it might not be enough to kill one enemy, and after that, you downed skills are very weak, you won't probably live long enough to recast downed 2 (20s cooldown) for another lava font.But let's suppose you rally, you will be low health and if you don't have healing power and/or water trait, you might have troubles to properly healing yourself to finish the fight.@"bbop.9706" said: might be what you're looking forThis build is almost full DPS. As survival, he only has lesser arcane shield, I can't see how it can help with sustain.Downed skill 5, downed lava font and constant air overload uptime are the main survival tool. Storm glyph and wh 5 can blind a lot of mobs making you basically invulnerable. You don't need any defensive skills except maybe flash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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