Lincolnbeard.1735

Everything works on pve, does Virt do more dps than other specs? Dunno, don't give a rat's kitten about pve, but it's way easier to make something work on pve than in competitive game modes. This was also debated when Virt was announced, you should design a spec for competitive and then balance for pve, and not the way around. For pve numbers can make something viable, for PvP/wvw not that much. But yeah should have stated this is with competitive in mind, tho the fact that IP was lost and nothing gained in return still remains true in pve.

Virt is trash but this is a fact since the spec was announced. All projectile spec, every shatter is worse than core except f2 if you play condi. BR is the only good utility. Elite is unusable. The point here is Virt gives up IP for what?

Specter loses stealing skills but gets shroud. Bladesworn doesn't really lose anything, dragon trigger is burst and bladefun is the second weapon skill. Mechanist loses belt skills but gets mech skills. Virt loses IP but gets? Worse shatters?

You don't have to spell things for me, you have to actually learn to PvP.

Why the heck are you even comparing BR with distortion. It would make sense if BR was also a stunbreaker, but it isn't. Distortion is more often then not knowing a burst is coming and you have no other means of avoiding it, ie you're stunned. Distortion without IP means you'll eat the burst if you're without blades. You don't preemptively use distortion based on the number of clones/blades, you use it because you need to or should, otherwise you're using it for the sake of using it.

Yeah it is. Tell me another elite spec that lost something baseline.

This is about illusionary persona, yeah. It does matter. F3 is already one of the most worthless garbage on game but not being able to do it without blades makes it even worse. No distortion without blades is pure retardness tho.

Thread name. Virtuoso gives up IP. Is not like virt is worth a kitten anyway but makes no sense to give up a baseline mechanic.

You don't have to believe anything. Double stealth time means mesmer could reset the fight as much as it wants and thieves no longer has the control of the fight. But: Same thing happened with mirage when dodge uptime was good. Same thing happened with WB. Everytime some profession gets to do something better or on par with thieves, thieves rage hard.

But the ones crying the loudest were thieves screaming at the top of their lungs "mesmer has too much stealth nerf please".

Imagine crying about mesmer in 2023, even worse, from a thief who hardcounters it.

Thread should at least be renamed to "stealth is not op if thief is the one with it. You are just bad". Because thieves for sure cried for stealth nerf on PU when they were getting farmed by mesmers.

It was changed, back when several phantasms were nerfed and when the whole phantasms turn to clones to make it more entertaining to pvers thus nerfing pvpers once again in the process patch arrived. Warlock used to hit like truck, more damage the more conditions you had, it wasn't that uncommon to hit like 9k.

Phase retreat is the bread and butter of staff, why would you want to change it? Chaos armor is kind of lackluster and warlock turned from a damage monster into shatter fodder, those two are the only things that need some help.

Amen to that. Not only assassins were cooler, they're also more original and required more skill since a single block/evade/dshot would ruin your chain. And the animations, goddamnit, who do I have to kill to get a blades of steel and nine tail strike animation on gw2?

"Thieves are super skilled, even without stealth we just kill everyone that's how good we are". Interrupts HS through pistol 5. Thief either dies or runs away never to be seen again.

Regarding the mesmer bit, you must be the exception. Thieves were the main qqers when PU gave good stealth uptime and thieves were the main qqers when mirage had still not as much dodge uptime as dd but still good uptime. Regarding stealth itself this isn't the first thread and will not be the last, anerf will not do anything.

Still have to fight a wb that uses the dodge button at all. Facetanking all the way and be rewarded for it.

Nah, didn't start. It's just absurd that the only accessories are both pure pve. I don't care about the effects or anything just want to be able to change stats.

What are you even talking about. Staff ele was good, you could oneshot with it, but d/d was king. Ranged shatter was a thing, with staff and gs. Necro always used staff. Ranger lb was always absurd. Engi rifle with static discharge was a thing. Ranged was always used. Nowadays some of the ranged weapons deal way more damage than they should, ranger lb being the biggest offender.

Meanwhile vindi can chain blocks and evades forever. Self-sabotaging mesmers uber alles

That was ANerf's vision while Jon Peters was still on the balance team. Somehow the idea that melee should deal more damage than ranged was thrown out of the window with his departure.

I would like to craft vision and aurora. Guess what, I have to do an obnoxious amount of pve garbage too.

This would just confirm that zerging while pressing 1 is the epitome of combat ability.

You've five blades, you cast a skill that grants you another blade, one of the blades is shot to the target similar in fashion to phantasmal blades trait.