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I mean why the heck did it drop into gold 3 now; 1400 skill rating is all you need to be in the top 250 players? Im lost, is this just my particular area of the NA servers? How can I make sense of this other than saying no one is playing sPvP at the moment.

I mean that is not entirely correct since its fine in PvP, about where Soulbeast is at. I mean the numbers dance is what the PvE Untamed needs at the moment. Spirits if they pulse quickness will make a healer druid equil or if not better than HB, outside of the other boon HB proivde

It is tricky, I mean it took people a very long time to work out how to use Soulbeast, that and some of the interactions didn't work from my memory. The only thing I really use Untamed for is open world farming, which I do believe it excels at.

Well then why do so many people play including myself (only WvW). I could say the same thing about most WvW encounters, one rapid fire from my Untamed can down people very quickly. For all good dodging does to counter this if you exhaust all there endurance they cant do much.

My problem is time vs reward, its just not worth it to raid for me.

Honestly I do feel like a nerf is incoming hopefully just with Soulbeast. Im saying this because when the spirit charges are made and they now pulse something like quickness. Soulbeast will be that much stronger so I imagine they will nerf the burst synergy a little bit and Soulbeast will be some is a sort of stance quickness support. (right now it's just stances that are good boons for WvW burst)

Talk about beating a dead horse. Virtuoso is okay PvP but no where near what high level WvW or sPvP players need. That is essentially Mesmers entire problem it is super niche and probably wont ever not be.

And here I was standing in Bitterfrost like a chump

Yeah Souldbeasts are really hard to deal with because they come with high ranged and melee burst. There are a couple of reasons you would take Untamed instead of Soulbeast with a similar build: Access to super speed (15 seconds from utilities alone) Perilous Gift gives you 3 second of invulnerability and massive healing, this can be used on DPS pets so they do not die. Power Untamed (greatsword + longbow) can passively heal from damage Easy access to Weakness for when you go into melee with greatsword

I have reached plat 1, but anyway like I said right now only the top 30 players are plat 2 with only the top 5 being in plat 3. This is mostly due in my opinion to the fact that not many people play Conquest PvP rather I bet most are in WvW at the moment. If more players played, I bet I could jump up in the ranks but right now most if not all my guild mates who play in plat are hovering around high gold too, when a year or two ago it was a different story.

Yeah I don't, that also proved my point a bit since the players in plat are exploiting this problem. I think high gold is roughly where most decent player sit, hey sometimes I make it platinum on a good day.

Okay so for NA only 30 players are in plat 2 so that is super super unrealistic for me to reach.

High gold is the top 250 to 500 hundred players. I mean the top 250 player are not even all in platinum so it most definitely is the top players. I mean maybe in EU servers it's different (if there even is different regions)

It is just a question to see if anyone else is experiencing the same thing?

I have notices that me along with many other players are dominated high level conquest PvP games with either Untamed(my pick) or Soulbeast. I am wondering if anyone else is experiencing this at high gold? EDIT: Okay there seems be some confusion about the ranks. Plat 2 is literally impossible to achieve right now, since it is reserved to the top 30 players (1600+) I have no idea why and maybe this is not the same in your region but it is in mine. Plat 1 on the other hand is the top 200 players so that might be more achievable (I have broken through once this season) Anyone claiming that you need to be plat 2 to be good at PvP is literally flat wrong, that's like saying CM fractals speed runs are the standard end game PvE.

Yeah so I guess people play Virtuoso and then drop rank, I mean I don't really know. All I can say is I do see them so I guess we can confirm that they exist in gold.

Yeah that is how I use Untamed too, the cooldown reductions you can stack is crazy. Barrage can be spammed twice within 10 second if you are fast enough on the hot keys.

Yeah I find that to, I would say in WvW it is a pretty even split between Virtuoso and Mirage so in a group of 20 players I'm likely to see one each. For sPvP it's a different story I find almost no Mesmer classes except Virtuoso and maybe the odd mirage every 10 games.

When did anyone say anything about sPvP this all started from golem dps so I'm assuming PvE. How the heck can you reproduce any golem number in PvP so in that respect I agree.

I think most Mesmers just build swap whenever they want. I use what is most effective thing at that time and sometimes that is 1200 range offhealer. I mean I have quickness chrono with both dps and full healer gear, along with two sets for my mirage one for alacrity and one for condition damage. I only have one set for Virtuoso but I could see myself getting some healing power trinkets we shall see.

Honestly you are right I normally only switch to offhealer when we are dying alot on end game PvE content. That and of course I normally use in open world content so I facetank.

Sorry I read the skill wrong and remembered how the trait was in beta, what I ment to say was lower the blade stock interval.

I have brought it on exactly those things too, offhealer it is what it is called. Fractals especially since it can come in handy with HB somewhat being low on HPS and having to stand in a cone behind you. I mean most alacrity Mirages slot in Inspiration due to the boon sharing, they then provide a little healing so why not Virtuoso.

I do all the time, i don't really need the damage for most open world content so i might as well heal myself and other instead. For most content I'm more liable to die rather than need a DPS check. Another nice thing is its only a 5k dps drop so for me 35k down to 30k on the golem.

Yeah I 100% agree, I do concede its bad in most PvP game modes but I hate Mesmer there so I'm bias. I'm not against playing bad classes and getting good at them I mean I play Untamed WvW and I don't see anyone posting roaming compilations but I see a heck of a lot of Virtuoso ones. I have even seen a few outnumbered compilations for Virtuoso so it must be doing something right.