Right ... so 13 months ago, @Mortifera.6138 was so enamored by this truth that he made a post about it. Since then, he's made a number of threads complaining about how grindy the game is, even though whatever 'not grindy' things he was praising before didn't change. And it's not just about IBS for him ... he's claiming since HOT, it's a ridiculous grind, so something isn't honest there. This thread feels that it's simply about pushing a sore point to incite people to complain about the game. We are going to make sure there is a BALANCED discussion around these kinds of threads. Sure, IBS has some MP's behind these weapon collections and other content people aren't necessarily interested it, but that's not a problem about grind. It's a problem about distribution of mastery points. The implication that GW2 is STILL just a 'side' MMO is just someone trying to take the kitten from Anet, which is absurd to begin with, like it wasn't a legit MMO to begin with. Obviously that's nonsensical. My gf told me I’m the “side man”, so maybe I’m projecting. ? On a serious note, I said HoT introduced hardcore content, such as raids. And now there is grind. The grind happened with The Icebrood Saga.