SoV.5139

Ranger buffs? wait what?It lost it's unblockable......(im not main ranger though)Although after a few fights today, i wonder why Rev "Phase Traversal" has 5secs of unblockable. Rev unblockables only last for a couple hits and then done. Welcome to balance soulbeasts... Sure, when we cut that Coalescence of Ruin crit damage in half it will balance out nicely. Rock out here acting like Paper is OP but Scissors are fine. Yeah someday when they make cor a skill that can hit a moving target, navigate terrain and not miss simply because of the gaps in its cascade... I played lb ranger for a couple years. I know how easy it is to play without unblockable buffs let alone with them for an unlimited number of attacks for 3 seconds lol. Hitting with hammer 3 and 5 on a rev isnt difficult either, and just as mindless as hitting SickEm then using LB2 Im fine with having zero unblockable in the entire game. People on these boards while all too willing to ignore one broken thing, or even worse defending it while demanding nerfs to another broken thing, are simply Rock QQing that Paper is OP but claiming Scissors is fine. Never called ranger unblockable buffs op. That was all in your head. And sure it's not hard to land 3 and 5 when you are dumping aoe on a zerg. But if anyone else eats those it's because they are potatoes. We arnt talking a glowy charge up animation, it's a huge kitten hammer over your head or the revenant leaping off the ground. Even with the added red ring people still eat hammer 5, it's sad really. Mincing words at this point. You did say you didnt need it, which is the same thing Im saying. This megacrit rev hammer build is another meme build just like the LB2 soulbeast build was, but its actually preferred in zergs, and people defending that while demanding ranger nerfs are logically contradicting themselves. Justifying it by saying its easy to dodge or avoid is laughable, since its also easy to hit the dodge key twice when ranger LB2 is channeling, yet the forums light up like christmas to get that nerfed. Keep in mind Im not QQing over the nerf, I just want equally unbalanced things also nerfed. Instead it gets proxy buffed and they remove the evade from druid staff 3 and call it a "balance patch." Help me understand.... Rev hammer isn’t 2 unblocables for the last 5 seconds, with malicious reprisal???Wich has a icd of 20sec. Even if has no limit of atacks wich should have, every unblockable should have a limit for its time, hammer fire ratio is much slower than ranger stuff and way more telegraphed. Something that hits for 20K crit one time only needs one charge of unblockable. The reason people QQ about LB2 is because they get hit with the full channel, all unblockable, and apparently going to the forum and demanding nerfs is easier than hitting a dodge key after realizing that they were being LB2 channeled. My actual position is if they are going to nerf one meme build they all need to be nerfed. Im also not sure how many times I have to say they could eliminate unblockable from the entire game and Id be fine with it, before people stop including it in their justification You guys will learn this lesson soon enough, as all of these "presumably unskilled" folks who were channeling people who couldnt hit a dodge key down on LB2 retreat to the next meme build and you find yourselves getting one shot hammered, or one shot mauled from stealth, or single bursted guardian trapped etc.... TL;DR: People declaring victory on this as if any one nerf stops it from happening are hilarious. I've never been hit by 20k from anything on rev's hammer and I play glass ele most of the time. CoR also requires open field and can be countered by side stepping or standing on slightly elevated terrain. Rapid fire can hit you with no problem while ranger is sitting inside objective or on top of the cliff or whichever safe spot you find. Still trying to justify one meme build while demanding another be nerfed is Rock claiming Paper is OP but Scissors are fine. That argument is pretty bad considering that both of them melt ele with a single skill or 2 autos. There's no scissors when you play glass ele, but every pebble breaks your glass. The argument isnt whats bad there, as thats my entire point. (your ele is scissors and you claim it doesnt need a nerf and is not OP) People playing other glass meme builds want their hard counters nerfed. They cleverly (or so they think) couch this request in terms of the build they want nerfed being a no skill build while their meme build deserves to be left alone because it cant be played by those with potatoes for hands, even though it is just as cheese. If you are playing the lowest HP total, with the lowest armor total, adding no health or armor, then yes, you will be easily downed from time to time. I bet the complaining stops when the player playing said build is the one doing the one shotting, and starts back up after they are the one being one shot. TL;DR: People playing high risk high reward builds want the risk lowered. This should be done by hitting a dodge key twice rather than by 60WPMing out post after post about how their hard counters need to be nerfed. Even with that being said, Im still fine with the nerfs, if all meme builds get nerfed, rather than just the hard counters to the forum warriors builds. On the contrary. I don't want risk lowered, I want reward improved because it's certainly not as high as on meta zerg builds and "meta" roaming ones, especially if you consider their low effort. Counters do and should exist, but I don't need to be countered by a certain build to see that it's overtuned. Glass ele has a lot of counters, but I'm not saying they are all too op and need nerf. It's soulbeast players who were complaining about dueling builds because those counter their pew pew.You are doing precisely and exactly what I said you were doing - couching the agenda of getting this one thing nerfed in terms of generic game balance. You were the one who brought glass ele into this picture as a reply to one of my posts which had zero to do with glass ele, so yes, you indeed are asking for one of your hard counters to be nerfed. Im fine with dueling builds countering one trick pony DPS bursters. Thats how this game works. Apparently some would rather counter it with forum DPS though, but then dont want their own meme builds nerfed due to the same type of feedback. My position is if they are going to nerf a meme build they should nerf all meme builds, and not just the one that counters. But since you brought it up I'll address it. As for your glass ele - they have more than enough evades where the first three LB2 bursts should be doing zero or near zero DPS. If you didnt build any defense util into a kit you already didnt build any toughness into, then being sneezed on will down the character. The vast majority of these SicEm LB2 bursters dont have another trick up their sleeve, so the smart ones usually build in a full escape kit in for when it didnt work. The not so smart get handedly defeated when fully ramped up LB2 fails to down their target. TL;DR: Its not SicEm SB thats hard countering your glass ele, unless youre not hitting any evades at all whatsoever. Its likely a more balanced LB build who can hang around a bit until your evades run out.

Ranger buffs? wait what?It lost it's unblockable......(im not main ranger though)Although after a few fights today, i wonder why Rev "Phase Traversal" has 5secs of unblockable. Rev unblockables only last for a couple hits and then done. Welcome to balance soulbeasts... Sure, when we cut that Coalescence of Ruin crit damage in half it will balance out nicely. Rock out here acting like Paper is OP but Scissors are fine. Yeah someday when they make cor a skill that can hit a moving target, navigate terrain and not miss simply because of the gaps in its cascade... I played lb ranger for a couple years. I know how easy it is to play without unblockable buffs let alone with them for an unlimited number of attacks for 3 seconds lol. Hitting with hammer 3 and 5 on a rev isnt difficult either, and just as mindless as hitting SickEm then using LB2 Im fine with having zero unblockable in the entire game. People on these boards while all too willing to ignore one broken thing, or even worse defending it while demanding nerfs to another broken thing, are simply Rock QQing that Paper is OP but claiming Scissors is fine. Never called ranger unblockable buffs op. That was all in your head. And sure it's not hard to land 3 and 5 when you are dumping aoe on a zerg. But if anyone else eats those it's because they are potatoes. We arnt talking a glowy charge up animation, it's a huge kitten hammer over your head or the revenant leaping off the ground. Even with the added red ring people still eat hammer 5, it's sad really. Mincing words at this point. You did say you didnt need it, which is the same thing Im saying. This megacrit rev hammer build is another meme build just like the LB2 soulbeast build was, but its actually preferred in zergs, and people defending that while demanding ranger nerfs are logically contradicting themselves. Justifying it by saying its easy to dodge or avoid is laughable, since its also easy to hit the dodge key twice when ranger LB2 is channeling, yet the forums light up like christmas to get that nerfed. Keep in mind Im not QQing over the nerf, I just want equally unbalanced things also nerfed. Instead it gets proxy buffed and they remove the evade from druid staff 3 and call it a "balance patch." Help me understand.... Rev hammer isn’t 2 unblocables for the last 5 seconds, with malicious reprisal???Wich has a icd of 20sec. Even if has no limit of atacks wich should have, every unblockable should have a limit for its time, hammer fire ratio is much slower than ranger stuff and way more telegraphed. Something that hits for 20K crit one time only needs one charge of unblockable. The reason people QQ about LB2 is because they get hit with the full channel, all unblockable, and apparently going to the forum and demanding nerfs is easier than hitting a dodge key after realizing that they were being LB2 channeled. My actual position is if they are going to nerf one meme build they all need to be nerfed. Im also not sure how many times I have to say they could eliminate unblockable from the entire game and Id be fine with it, before people stop including it in their justification You guys will learn this lesson soon enough, as all of these "presumably unskilled" folks who were channeling people who couldnt hit a dodge key down on LB2 retreat to the next meme build and you find yourselves getting one shot hammered, or one shot mauled from stealth, or single bursted guardian trapped etc.... TL;DR: People declaring victory on this as if any one nerf stops it from happening are hilarious. I've never been hit by 20k from anything on rev's hammer and I play glass ele most of the time. CoR also requires open field and can be countered by side stepping or standing on slightly elevated terrain. Rapid fire can hit you with no problem while ranger is sitting inside objective or on top of the cliff or whichever safe spot you find. Still trying to justify one meme build while demanding another be nerfed is Rock claiming Paper is OP but Scissors are fine. That argument is pretty bad considering that both of them melt ele with a single skill or 2 autos. There's no scissors when you play glass ele, but every pebble breaks your glass.The argument isnt whats bad there, as thats my entire point. (your ele is scissors and you claim it doesnt need a nerf and is not OP) People playing other glass meme builds want their hard counters nerfed. They cleverly (or so they think) couch this request in terms of the build they want nerfed being a no skill build while their meme build deserves to be left alone because it cant be played by those with potatoes for hands, even though it is just as cheese. If you are playing the lowest HP total, with the lowest armor total, adding no health or armor, then yes, you will be easily downed from time to time. I bet the complaining stops when the player playing said build is the one doing the one shotting, and starts back up after they are the one being one shot. TL;DR: People playing high risk high reward builds want the risk lowered. This should be done by hitting a dodge key twice rather than by 60WPMing out post after post about how their hard counters need to be nerfed. Even with that being said, Im still fine with the nerfs, if all meme builds get nerfed, rather than just the hard counters to the forum warriors builds.

Ranger buffs? wait what?It lost it's unblockable......(im not main ranger though)Although after a few fights today, i wonder why Rev "Phase Traversal" has 5secs of unblockable. Rev unblockables only last for a couple hits and then done. Welcome to balance soulbeasts... Sure, when we cut that Coalescence of Ruin crit damage in half it will balance out nicely. Rock out here acting like Paper is OP but Scissors are fine. Yeah someday when they make cor a skill that can hit a moving target, navigate terrain and not miss simply because of the gaps in its cascade... I played lb ranger for a couple years. I know how easy it is to play without unblockable buffs let alone with them for an unlimited number of attacks for 3 seconds lol. Hitting with hammer 3 and 5 on a rev isnt difficult either, and just as mindless as hitting SickEm then using LB2 Im fine with having zero unblockable in the entire game. People on these boards while all too willing to ignore one broken thing, or even worse defending it while demanding nerfs to another broken thing, are simply Rock QQing that Paper is OP but claiming Scissors is fine. Never called ranger unblockable buffs op. That was all in your head. And sure it's not hard to land 3 and 5 when you are dumping aoe on a zerg. But if anyone else eats those it's because they are potatoes. We arnt talking a glowy charge up animation, it's a huge kitten hammer over your head or the revenant leaping off the ground. Even with the added red ring people still eat hammer 5, it's sad really. Mincing words at this point. You did say you didnt need it, which is the same thing Im saying. This megacrit rev hammer build is another meme build just like the LB2 soulbeast build was, but its actually preferred in zergs, and people defending that while demanding ranger nerfs are logically contradicting themselves. Justifying it by saying its easy to dodge or avoid is laughable, since its also easy to hit the dodge key twice when ranger LB2 is channeling, yet the forums light up like christmas to get that nerfed. Keep in mind Im not QQing over the nerf, I just want equally unbalanced things also nerfed. Instead it gets proxy buffed and they remove the evade from druid staff 3 and call it a "balance patch." Help me understand.... Rev hammer isn’t 2 unblocables for the last 5 seconds, with malicious reprisal???Wich has a icd of 20sec. Even if has no limit of atacks wich should have, every unblockable should have a limit for its time, hammer fire ratio is much slower than ranger stuff and way more telegraphed. Something that hits for 20K crit one time only needs one charge of unblockable. The reason people QQ about LB2 is because they get hit with the full channel, all unblockable, and apparently going to the forum and demanding nerfs is easier than hitting a dodge key after realizing that they were being LB2 channeled. My actual position is if they are going to nerf one meme build they all need to be nerfed. Im also not sure how many times I have to say they could eliminate unblockable from the entire game and Id be fine with it, before people stop including it in their justification You guys will learn this lesson soon enough, as all of these "presumably unskilled" folks who were channeling people who couldnt hit a dodge key down on LB2 retreat to the next meme build and you find yourselves getting one shot hammered, or one shot mauled from stealth, or single bursted guardian trapped etc.... TL;DR: People declaring victory on this as if any one nerf stops it from happening are hilarious. 20K with how many stacks on vulnerability ??? i played zerker revenant, those values are basicly against downeds (even on down its rare to obtain those values) , or zerker with a full stack of vulnerability and have 200-250% crit damage and fury and might, and that will make autos hit arround 4k to 8k... on zerkers Should we talk about 18k+ maul on my 3k armor and protection? And this rare moments only happens in zerg gameplay where u cant see what is damaging whom, due damage floaters everywhere lol, and invisible/clutered/non rendered atacks. I dont mind Hammer Rev modifyers getting reduced a bit, but if Anet do that they need to nerf alot of aoe lol.... meme gimmick builds should be removed and put in pair with non cheese ones, that i agree. Alot of ranger were actually cheesing with the unblcokaable system, with superspeed some with macros other even using package editing to spam faster, it was a momentum that could carry for most LB users, it had to be reduced. It is a victory above powercreep yes.. and toughness counters rev damage :} we hit wet noodles some bulky players if they dont have lots of vulnerability (25 stacks of vulnerability = 25% damage received by condi and direct https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Vulnerability) Beastmasters need to adapt, and try to leech LB less, they can still melt a ravenant at range... just need to know how to do it at the right time... Yes, include 18K+ maul from stealth as well. All the ramped up damage values dumbs the game down. Im totally fine with the SB SicEm+LB2+unblockable nerf, just nerf the rest of the cheese as well. If not, thats the next thing you will be demanding nerf for anyhow., because this is what the cheese build players will graduate to. I mean, does anyone actually believe that when one of these builds gets nerfed everyone that was playing it goes and plays a higher skill floor build?

Ranger buffs? wait what?It lost it's unblockable......(im not main ranger though)Although after a few fights today, i wonder why Rev "Phase Traversal" has 5secs of unblockable. Rev unblockables only last for a couple hits and then done. Welcome to balance soulbeasts... Sure, when we cut that Coalescence of Ruin crit damage in half it will balance out nicely. Rock out here acting like Paper is OP but Scissors are fine. Yeah someday when they make cor a skill that can hit a moving target, navigate terrain and not miss simply because of the gaps in its cascade... I played lb ranger for a couple years. I know how easy it is to play without unblockable buffs let alone with them for an unlimited number of attacks for 3 seconds lol. Hitting with hammer 3 and 5 on a rev isnt difficult either, and just as mindless as hitting SickEm then using LB2 Im fine with having zero unblockable in the entire game. People on these boards while all too willing to ignore one broken thing, or even worse defending it while demanding nerfs to another broken thing, are simply Rock QQing that Paper is OP but claiming Scissors is fine. Never called ranger unblockable buffs op. That was all in your head. And sure it's not hard to land 3 and 5 when you are dumping aoe on a zerg. But if anyone else eats those it's because they are potatoes. We arnt talking a glowy charge up animation, it's a huge kitten hammer over your head or the revenant leaping off the ground. Even with the added red ring people still eat hammer 5, it's sad really. Mincing words at this point. You did say you didnt need it, which is the same thing Im saying. This megacrit rev hammer build is another meme build just like the LB2 soulbeast build was, but its actually preferred in zergs, and people defending that while demanding ranger nerfs are logically contradicting themselves. Justifying it by saying its easy to dodge or avoid is laughable, since its also easy to hit the dodge key twice when ranger LB2 is channeling, yet the forums light up like christmas to get that nerfed. Keep in mind Im not QQing over the nerf, I just want equally unbalanced things also nerfed. Instead it gets proxy buffed and they remove the evade from druid staff 3 and call it a "balance patch." Help me understand.... Rev hammer isn’t 2 unblocables for the last 5 seconds, with malicious reprisal???Wich has a icd of 20sec. Even if has no limit of atacks wich should have, every unblockable should have a limit for its time, hammer fire ratio is much slower than ranger stuff and way more telegraphed. Something that hits for 20K crit one time only needs one charge of unblockable. The reason people QQ about LB2 is because they get hit with the full channel, all unblockable, and apparently going to the forum and demanding nerfs is easier than hitting a dodge key after realizing that they were being LB2 channeled. My actual position is if they are going to nerf one meme build they all need to be nerfed. Im also not sure how many times I have to say they could eliminate unblockable from the entire game and Id be fine with it, before people stop including it in their justification You guys will learn this lesson soon enough, as all of these "presumably unskilled" folks who were channeling people who couldnt hit a dodge key down on LB2 retreat to the next meme build and you find yourselves getting one shot hammered, or one shot mauled from stealth, or single bursted guardian trapped etc.... TL;DR: People declaring victory on this as if any one nerf stops it from happening are hilarious. 20K with how many stacks on vulnerability ??? i played zerker revenant, those values are basicly against downeds (even on down its rare to obtain those values) , or zerker with a full stack of vulnerability and have 200-250% crit damage and fury and might.Should we talk about 18k+ maul on my 3k armor and protection? And this rare moments only happens in zerg gameplay where u cant see what is damaging whom, due damage floaters everywhere lol, and invisible/clutered/non rendered atacks. I dont mind Hammer Rev modifyers getting reduced a bit, but if Anet do that they need to nerf alot of aoe lol.... meme gimmick builds should be removed and put in pair with non cheese ones, that i agree. Yeah that guy got hit once on his glass build for big damage and now rev is op. He compares forced doubling dodging a sb super buffed rapid fire with hammer Rev skills you can walk out of the aoe lol. This is not mentioning the gigantic range difference. He is literally projecting because he keeps saying I called for sb nerfs, which I don't think I did, and turns around calling for hammer Rev nerfs. I just laugh at those tower rangers and push into them and they run or die. Just another zergling crying "CoR does 20k damage every FOUR SECONDS! NEED NURF OR PIRATE SHIP META FOREVER!".Im not the one QQing here. Im fine with either all meme builds or no meme builds. Trying to justify one meme build while demanding another be nerfed is Rock claiming Paper is OP but Scissors are fine.

Ranger buffs? wait what?It lost it's unblockable......(im not main ranger though)Although after a few fights today, i wonder why Rev "Phase Traversal" has 5secs of unblockable. Rev unblockables only last for a couple hits and then done. Welcome to balance soulbeasts... Sure, when we cut that Coalescence of Ruin crit damage in half it will balance out nicely. Rock out here acting like Paper is OP but Scissors are fine. Yeah someday when they make cor a skill that can hit a moving target, navigate terrain and not miss simply because of the gaps in its cascade... I played lb ranger for a couple years. I know how easy it is to play without unblockable buffs let alone with them for an unlimited number of attacks for 3 seconds lol. Hitting with hammer 3 and 5 on a rev isnt difficult either, and just as mindless as hitting SickEm then using LB2 Im fine with having zero unblockable in the entire game. People on these boards while all too willing to ignore one broken thing, or even worse defending it while demanding nerfs to another broken thing, are simply Rock QQing that Paper is OP but claiming Scissors is fine. Never called ranger unblockable buffs op. That was all in your head. And sure it's not hard to land 3 and 5 when you are dumping aoe on a zerg. But if anyone else eats those it's because they are potatoes. We arnt talking a glowy charge up animation, it's a huge kitten hammer over your head or the revenant leaping off the ground. Even with the added red ring people still eat hammer 5, it's sad really. Mincing words at this point. You did say you didnt need it, which is the same thing Im saying. This megacrit rev hammer build is another meme build just like the LB2 soulbeast build was, but its actually preferred in zergs, and people defending that while demanding ranger nerfs are logically contradicting themselves. Justifying it by saying its easy to dodge or avoid is laughable, since its also easy to hit the dodge key twice when ranger LB2 is channeling, yet the forums light up like christmas to get that nerfed. Keep in mind Im not QQing over the nerf, I just want equally unbalanced things also nerfed. Instead it gets proxy buffed and they remove the evade from druid staff 3 and call it a "balance patch." Help me understand.... Rev hammer isn’t 2 unblocables for the last 5 seconds, with malicious reprisal???Wich has a icd of 20sec. Even if has no limit of atacks wich should have, every unblockable should have a limit for its time, hammer fire ratio is much slower than ranger stuff and way more telegraphed. Something that hits for 20K crit one time only needs one charge of unblockable. The reason people QQ about LB2 is because they get hit with the full channel, all unblockable, and apparently going to the forum and demanding nerfs is easier than hitting a dodge key after realizing that they were being LB2 channeled. My actual position is if they are going to nerf one meme build they all need to be nerfed. Im also not sure how many times I have to say they could eliminate unblockable from the entire game and Id be fine with it, before people stop including it in their justification You guys will learn this lesson soon enough, as all of these "presumably unskilled" folks who were channeling people who couldnt hit a dodge key down on LB2 retreat to the next meme build and you find yourselves getting one shot hammered, or one shot mauled from stealth, or single bursted guardian trapped etc.... TL;DR: People declaring victory on this as if any one nerf stops it from happening are hilarious. I've never been hit by 20k from anything on rev's hammer and I play glass ele most of the time. CoR also requires open field and can be countered by side stepping or standing on slightly elevated terrain. Rapid fire can hit you with no problem while ranger is sitting inside objective or on top of the cliff or whichever safe spot you find.Still trying to justify one meme build while demanding another be nerfed is Rock claiming Paper is OP but Scissors are fine.

Ranger buffs? wait what?It lost it's unblockable......(im not main ranger though)Although after a few fights today, i wonder why Rev "Phase Traversal" has 5secs of unblockable. Rev unblockables only last for a couple hits and then done. Welcome to balance soulbeasts... Sure, when we cut that Coalescence of Ruin crit damage in half it will balance out nicely. Rock out here acting like Paper is OP but Scissors are fine. Yeah someday when they make cor a skill that can hit a moving target, navigate terrain and not miss simply because of the gaps in its cascade... I played lb ranger for a couple years. I know how easy it is to play without unblockable buffs let alone with them for an unlimited number of attacks for 3 seconds lol. Hitting with hammer 3 and 5 on a rev isnt difficult either, and just as mindless as hitting SickEm then using LB2 Im fine with having zero unblockable in the entire game. People on these boards while all too willing to ignore one broken thing, or even worse defending it while demanding nerfs to another broken thing, are simply Rock QQing that Paper is OP but claiming Scissors is fine. Never called ranger unblockable buffs op. That was all in your head. And sure it's not hard to land 3 and 5 when you are dumping aoe on a zerg. But if anyone else eats those it's because they are potatoes. We arnt talking a glowy charge up animation, it's a huge kitten hammer over your head or the revenant leaping off the ground. Even with the added red ring people still eat hammer 5, it's sad really. Mincing words at this point. You did say you didnt need it, which is the same thing Im saying. This megacrit rev hammer build is another meme build just like the LB2 soulbeast build was, but its actually preferred in zergs, and people defending that while demanding ranger nerfs are logically contradicting themselves. Justifying it by saying its easy to dodge or avoid is laughable, since its also easy to hit the dodge key twice when ranger LB2 is channeling, yet the forums light up like christmas to get that nerfed. Keep in mind Im not QQing over the nerf, I just want equally unbalanced things also nerfed. Instead it gets proxy buffed and they remove the evade from druid staff 3 and call it a "balance patch." Help me understand.... Rev hammer isn’t 2 unblocables for the last 5 seconds, with malicious reprisal???Wich has a icd of 20sec. Even if has no limit of atacks wich should have, every unblockable should have a limit for its time, hammer fire ratio is much slower than ranger stuff and way more telegraphed.Something that hits for 20K crit one time only needs one charge of unblockable. The reason people QQ about LB2 is because they get hit with the full channel, all unblockable, and apparently going to the forum and demanding nerfs is easier than hitting a dodge key after realizing that they were being LB2 channeled. My actual position is if they are going to nerf one meme build they all need to be nerfed. Im also not sure how many times I have to say they could eliminate unblockable from the entire game and Id be fine with it, before people stop including it in their justification You guys will learn this lesson soon enough, as all of these "presumably unskilled" folks who were channeling people who couldnt hit a dodge key down on LB2 retreat to the next meme build and you find yourselves getting one shot hammered, or one shot mauled from stealth, or single bursted guardian trapped etc.... TL;DR: People declaring victory on this as if any one nerf stops it from happening are hilarious.

Ranger buffs? wait what?It lost it's unblockable......(im not main ranger though)Although after a few fights today, i wonder why Rev "Phase Traversal" has 5secs of unblockable. Rev unblockables only last for a couple hits and then done. Welcome to balance soulbeasts... Sure, when we cut that Coalescence of Ruin crit damage in half it will balance out nicely. Rock out here acting like Paper is OP but Scissors are fine. Yeah someday when they make cor a skill that can hit a moving target, navigate terrain and not miss simply because of the gaps in its cascade... I played lb ranger for a couple years. I know how easy it is to play without unblockable buffs let alone with them for an unlimited number of attacks for 3 seconds lol. Hitting with hammer 3 and 5 on a rev isnt difficult either, and just as mindless as hitting SickEm then using LB2 Im fine with having zero unblockable in the entire game. People on these boards while all too willing to ignore one broken thing, or even worse defending it while demanding nerfs to another broken thing, are simply Rock QQing that Paper is OP but claiming Scissors is fine. Never called ranger unblockable buffs op. That was all in your head. And sure it's not hard to land 3 and 5 when you are dumping aoe on a zerg. But if anyone else eats those it's because they are potatoes. We arnt talking a glowy charge up animation, it's a huge kitten hammer over your head or the revenant leaping off the ground. Even with the added red ring people still eat hammer 5, it's sad really.Mincing words at this point. You did say you didnt need it, which is the same thing Im saying. This megacrit rev hammer build is another meme build just like the LB2 soulbeast build was, but its actually preferred in zergs, and people defending that while demanding ranger nerfs are logically contradicting themselves. Justifying it by saying its easy to dodge or avoid is laughable, since its also easy to hit the dodge key twice when ranger LB2 is channeling, yet the forums light up like christmas to get that nerfed. Keep in mind Im not QQing over the nerf, I just want equally unbalanced things also nerfed. Instead it gets proxy buffed and they remove the evade from druid staff 3 and call it a "balance patch."

Ranger buffs? wait what?It lost it's unblockable......(im not main ranger though)Although after a few fights today, i wonder why Rev "Phase Traversal" has 5secs of unblockable. Rev unblockables only last for a couple hits and then done. Welcome to balance soulbeasts... Sure, when we cut that Coalescence of Ruin crit damage in half it will balance out nicely. Rock out here acting like Paper is OP but Scissors are fine. Yeah someday when they make cor a skill that can hit a moving target, navigate terrain and not miss simply because of the gaps in its cascade... I played lb ranger for a couple years. I know how easy it is to play without unblockable buffs let alone with them for an unlimited number of attacks for 3 seconds lol.Hitting with hammer 3 and 5 on a rev isnt difficult either, and just as mindless as hitting SickEm then using LB2 Im fine with having zero unblockable in the entire game. People on these boards while all too willing to ignore one broken thing, or even worse defending it while demanding nerfs to another broken thing, are simply Rock QQing that Paper is OP but claiming Scissors is fine.

Ranger buffs? wait what?It lost it's unblockable......(im not main ranger though)Although after a few fights today, i wonder why Rev "Phase Traversal" has 5secs of unblockable. Rev unblockables only last for a couple hits and then done. Welcome to balance soulbeasts...Sure, when we cut that Coalescence of Ruin crit damage in half it will balance out nicely. Rock out here acting like Paper is OP but Scissors are fine.

Rune of the trapper no longer procs stealth due to the change from "traps" to "preparations."

Yea, can someone not frothing at the mouth explain? Haven't tested anything myself but scrapper line now has -300 vita as a minor trait, lost all passive healing, for barrier you now need to dish out damge, which you probably wont, and it lost the elite toolbelt. Chaith (usually level headed) posted in the engi section, that scrapper is not durable anymore, and therefor useless in WvW/PvP. Now people are building glass scrappers and try to oneshot each other for the luz.On top of that, their goal was to turn it into a tank spec, per their patch description.

Runes of the trapper no longer proc stealth like they did when the prepare skills were considered traps.

The automatic -300 vitality penalty for choosing scrapper...This is better put on one of the traits that can be chosen. Then ANet can datamine how many people pick that over the other two choices.

Ranger buffs? wait what?It lost it's unblockable......(im not main ranger though)Although after a few fights today, i wonder why Rev "Phase Traversal" has 5secs of unblockable. Barrage hits harder and has lower cooldown. They still have some unblockables, but it's a lot less common than it used to be. Barrage - Lower cooldown yes but i don't think enemy is going to sit in that barrage circle and take those all 12 hits.Well then again, this is wvw and weird things do happen here.Decent sustain comp (most zergs) will, and watch rangers keel over from retal/reflect damage.

Yeah the automatic "Choose Scrapper = -300 vitality" was a bad trait move for sure. I would be on board with something like this if it was one of the choose-able traits, but in scrapper its one of the automatic ones.

What this did was potentially separated the healer role from the tanky support role. Can still play the tanky support scrapper, but I'm finding sustain bruiser holo makes alot more sense now too.

Something something rotten apple, something something the bunch.Something something one rotten apple, something something the apple orchard is rotten Something something Fallacy of Composition In short, again, few players do not make a whole community. https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Fallacy_fallacy Don't throw around fallacies like handgrenades if you have no idea what you're talking about. You're dumbing down discussions, it's just not a good discussion culture. Has become kind of a trend in the pseudointellectual parts of the internet, and it's a shame. "A rotten apple spoils the bunch" is exactly the right proverb for this kind of situation. Now get out....pseudointellectual parts of the internet. Q: If someone from the 1950s traveled to 2019 what would be the most difficult thing to explain to them?A: I have a device in my pocket that I can use to access all accumulated human knowledge, and I use it to view pictures of cats and argue with people.

I'd move the decimal one place to the left for how much damage has been multiplied since 2012, then cut all boon timers in half.It wouldnt quite birth a bunker meta, but more of a bruiser meta, and this consistent 18K crit nonsense would be gone.

Arcane trickster.

Could always play druid and pop that sweet sweet staff3 evade... Oh wait...

Pets are like the rest of the game. Theres META and theres everything else. I'm not saying its right, but this would be like the back burner of the back burner of an example of how homogenized the game has become.

Yep, that druid staff3 nerf. It just might have been the only druid item that wasnt nerfed in the last few balance patches.

The question that SHOULD be asked, is why does anyone care enough if someone switches servers the point where they need to penalize them one full weeks worth of WvW tickets?

gutted some good and great builds, but left most meta builds unadjusted.

Thats when the outnumbered pips kick in. :p Cat and mouse can be fun for a bit.