Ragnarox.9601

you can argue all day long but from my point of view Wb is trash, not even one roaming build worked for wvw. Zero defensives, zero healing, zero attack and mediocre movement. Some ppl abused shattered aegis build and thats it. Only fun sometimes. I am sorry, Anet should do better.

Its cause Beta characters took all items from TP when they vanished into oblivion.

Problem is that they tested F2 heals with 15 golems, so it will heal to full in 5 sec.....try that with 1 golem with 1 player in pvp and pve.....it just dont work. F2 is most useless virtue in willbender. 700 heal, what is that........I just cant....how much I am disappointed. While thieves have much mobility, good selfheals...and they do 8k backstabs and 7k heartseekers with 2 attacks only. Willbender is poor man's copy of thief or revenant.

Still testing it, and defensives, heals, dmg is pure garbage, mobility is good. Need strong buffs to defensives and healing if this gonna go live.... On my FB I have 700hp/s regen with food good healing with every aegis 1000hp very good dmg cause of core guardian traits, perma 10 might....I cant describe how this willbender is so bad. On Willbender theres NONE, ZERO self heals over time. You need to buff significantly F2 and heal skill to be viable, give it every hit heals you, cause in wvw and pvp situation you cant be on the target 100% cause you don't have cripple or chill. For a spec that is selfish, there is nothing you can do except bend over and wait for fast finish. Too many tradeoffs for zero benefits. I would never go WB over my FB or DH.

proposed changes: F1 activating gives quickness for 3 sec. F2 450 range ,heals you for 3500hp F3 same Righteous sprint - increase your movement speed by 25% , you are selfish and you do not longer give boons or heal to your allies. Traits: 1st row: - activating virtues gives you superspeed for 1.5 sec - reduces offhand sword and physical skills cooldowns by 20% - increase reversal of fortune to 2 sec second row: -activating another virtue reduces cooldown of remaining ones by 5 sec. -willbender flames dmg increase by 66% and every third attack cripples your foes for 1.5 sec - activating courage gives you boons (stays the same) Third row: -gain alacrity and regeneration for 5 sec when you use resolve, but you no longer have intial heal but instead you heal for 750 for every attack you do, 5 sec duration 1 sec internal cd - stays the same - courage no longer gives you aoe targeting instead you teleport to your target or forward, but you must attack your target to get boons , if you dont attack you gain 15 stacks of weekness for 10 sec. 1 sec icd, 5 sec duration. 750 range. Sword skills: 4# faster the attack, increase dmg by 50% 5# evade 3/4 Utilities: Increase all utilities cd by 5-10 sec cause of 20% cooldown decrease trait. Elite skill: You enter the shadow meditation form, nobody can attack you nor you can attack or use skills for 3 sec, giving you superspeed for 5 sec. You may use only virtues. 90 sec cd. And here you go. This is Willbender that is supposed to be. Not that abomination we have now. And it only took me 20 mins and 0 water bottles.

Now I know why that dude spent half of the stream drinking water showing Willbender, I was in the same situation when I was copying homework the night before from my friend and when I needed to give that same homework to my teacher. This spec feels like it was made 1 day before the stream, with lack of synergies with core guard, with bad afteruse animations, clunky in every aspect, very undeveloped traits, bad elite skill, no defensives, bad heals.... For this company this elite spec is plain B-. Cmon guys you had time for brainstorming, this spec feels like someone did it in 10 mins and did a bad job. You simply can and need to do better job.

Now I know why that dude spent half of the stream drinking water showing Willbender, I was in the same situation when I was copying homework the night before from my friend and when I needed to give that same homework to my teacher. This spec feels like it was made 1 day before the stream, with lack of synergies with core guard, with bad afteruse animations, clunky in every aspect, very undeveloped traits, bad elite skill, no defensives, bad heals.... For this company this elite spec is plain B-. Cmon guys you had time for brainstorming, this spec feels like someone did it in 10 mins and did a bad job. You simply can and need to do better job.

But you just insulted those 9 golems that got beaten up in video showcase 😞 how rude 😞

f1 virtue should get evade 3/4 and a quickness for 2 sec plus remove swiftness and give superspeed for 3 sec. sword 5# should also get evade 3/4. feel so squishy even in marauder gear. sword 4# should do more 2x dmg (with 2.4k power I do 1.9k non crit dmg which is like auto attack - full marauder build) edit1: Buff heal skill "reversal of fortune" to 3 sec. Conceited curate is also bad, you should buff it by 50-100% or give something else. Buff heal to 10-12k if they attack you, it often gets interrupted. edit2: f1 or Rushing justice is not smooth often it stop you from moving after you use it, feels clunky. edit3: willbender loses to every condition build out there, I even took CoP and Smite condition, you just melt to condi builds. Its not viable in this condi meta. edit4: willbender need some access to cripple and chill, maybe on f1 skill some quickness, this is assassin not grandma poochie. edit 5 f2 Flowing resolve should heal 2k not 700 or at least buff its effect to heal 1k+ per hit plus maybe a cripple if you step on the line, every 3 or 5 hit is bad and make it 5 sec duration. edit 6 sword skill 3 should change attack to something similar to revenant sword 3# skill if you equip sword offhand. edit 7 f3 does not give stability on cast and often gets interrupted. edit 8 I never die to wvw camp mobs when playing with dh and fb, with willbender I just go down so quickly. Overall this profession feels like DH in 1st beta, clunky , weak and unfinished. Need some woah effects to be viable in pvp and wvw. Not buying it in this state.

so when does the beta start?

I will use gs sw/sw for testing, I hate that skill 3 for sword isnt changed if paired with offhand sword (revenant skill 3 is nice for new skill 3 wb sword), and no quickness skill at all, we get passive 25% movement and we fart swiftness, that's an awful thing. There should be some way of quickness cause this is mobility fast class. It should feel like - get into the fight do quick dmg, get out. Righteous sprint should give us quickness not swiftness.

I am sorry but todays necro/rev/mesm/ele/engie can fart more condi that I can even cleanse and I have like 3 cleanses equipped plus tome of resolve and I can still suffer to condi dmg. If willbender with bers/mara gear will do awesome dmg it will be viable, without massive dmg those escape options wont do much for guardian class.

You all forgettin' one thing, this is condi meta, you cant just disengage from it, thieves have stealth so they can fully run away so to speak, this one does not have any condi cleanse, not even fury buff, and grandmaster traits are all about taking a lot and giving so much less. Most skills are for stuns and every class has almost passive stability, stability on dodge stability on something...I dont know, I am maybe too negative but willbender is maybe affective at large mobs (HoT little dinosaur farming revenge) but on 1v1 it might kill only a dragonhunter 😄

from what ive seen willbender with berserker armor and 11k hp doesent do much dmg from that video xD this spec will be tickle and run for your life...too bad they changing retreat into advance, retreat will be first pick for willbender xD

willbender in pvp and wvw 🙂 we are too op

I dont know, i need to test it to give proper judge. heal is looking good, with meditation traitline it could work, wont take virtuoso elite skill for sure. will take meditation aoe, stun and stunbreaker. combined with gs and sw/sw. grandmaster traits...i might pick none....or justice one.

yup guardian elite doesent have any condi cleanse or something, its all about stuns....and all other classes have at least 1 stunbreaker, i dont know, i feel its kinda luckluster spec especially that grandmaster traits, you dont know which one is worse - losing insta heal or aegis....

we get mobility but traits are luckluster, no synergy with anything, and those grandmaster traits are .... i dont know...bad...swap heal with regen, or aegis with no death....its just not worth it.

elite traits are pretty trash for survival, and that minor heal trait...everything else is okish but for that 10k hp and full berserker gear those dmg numbers are not high....virtuoso did 50k dmg with 1 skill and guardian did 2k lol. i expected at least 10k with sword 4th skill.

Dude, Guardian has the best support out there, we dont need another support, we needed pure dps physical profession which I hope will get with this 2 sword thingie. We already have base support and condi build, dh range build, firebrand support and condi, we lack pure dps physical class with good heal skill except shelter.

Its guardian, it is heavy armor with elite spec shoulders. 3 dots in icon means 3 virtues, thief always has 5 or more 7 I think. Its guardian offspec with rogue like things, like equiping offhand sword is turning skill 3 into something else like thief does. Guess some physical skill selfish guardian, which I like, no more support healer guardian.

well its ok they havent show much, but thats the point if you see it all than you would burn out waiting, you dont need to preorder right away, they will host more live streams.

next step is: firebrand spec is banned from pvp. well typical, somewhere out there a symbol guardian killed someone in pvp and it was a game dev :D

saddly your an engineer(or a necro), so you dont have a clue about firebrand. Solace was good heal which was destroyed, now only option to choose is the crappy heal with block.

this is not oneshot, oneshot is when mesmer come from stealth and your hp goes from 100 to 0 in 1 sec.