Bunny.9834 Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 The AFK Botters are not new to GW2. You see them in popular Meta and Farming Maps like Auric Basin and Domain of Istan. They are mostly used by "actual" players who uses a program that prevents them from getting "booted" out of the game. The players know about these bots, ANET knows about these bots but they seem to just keep existing. Well now they found a new popular hot spot, Dragon's End. These bots AFK in the main Waypoint of the map then teleports to the Airship as soon as the meta progresses there. Now my biggest issue with this is the fact that we already have a lower population cap in this map, which makes it hard to get in to do these meta. Now you add these bots that takes place, does nothing and gets rewards. Please start mass banning these account. 8 6 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soul.9651 Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 And it all starts from "getting daily log in rewards with my alts seems pretty good profit" and goes to "it would be a shame not to use those accounts for something more than just daily rewards" 7 2 1 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soul.9651 Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 Lol and it looks like the botters in this forum arent happy with you exposing them XD 8 2 1 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunny.9834 Posted October 2, 2022 Author Share Posted October 2, 2022 24 minutes ago, soul.9651 said: Lol and it looks like the botters in this forum arent happy with you exposing them XD Well you know, Antique Summoning Stones a good way to make money. 🙃 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soul.9651 Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Bunny.9834 said: Well you know, Antique Summoning Stones a good way to make money. 🙃 Its anets fault aswell ngl, how they just keep giving them free accounts left and right instead of banning them.. xd 16 million players btw, not like some people could have hundreds or thousands(thats bit extreme but who knows i bet there are some people like that) alts. 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobx.1758 Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 How did you identify them as bots instead of playes being afkers/leechers? Or do you use those terms interchangeably? 4 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alphafert.6730 Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 I thought they did nothing but after a few years of reporting about 12 I see regularly have disappeared. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunny.9834 Posted October 2, 2022 Author Share Posted October 2, 2022 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Sobx.1758 said: How did you identify them as bots instead of playes being afkers/leechers? Or do you use those terms interchangeably? They are both. Watch them closely, you can tell visually their toons are appearing/disappearing as if they were "loading" from a log in. Normal AFKers or leechers will eventually get kicked out for inactivity. These ones just stay on the waypoint. Edited October 2, 2022 by Bunny.9834 2 1 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent.6137 Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Bunny.9834 said: Please start mass banning these account. There's no need to ban them. Just make it impossible to get the final rewards without full participations. And this should apply to all metas. As had been suggested before, assign a certain participation value to each part of the meta. If pre-event escorts are required, those can't be skipped or you will not received full participation. Every phase of the meta, if skipped or full dead throughout, you will not get it either. Full Participation = Being actively involved in all phases; doesn't have to be 100%. Full participation required to claim the Hero's Choice chest. Amount of minor chests that can be looted will correspond to the existing requirements. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gehenna.3625 Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 12 minutes ago, Silent.6137 said: . Just make it impossible to get the final rewards without full participations. So what would you define as full participation? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent.6137 Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Gehenna.3625 said: So what would you define as full participation? Quote Full Participation = Being actively involved in all phases; doesn't have to be 100%. Do the events. Kill mobs, gather items, etc. Whatever is required. As for how much, that's for Anet to decide and implement. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gehenna.3625 Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Silent.6137 said: Do the events. Kill mobs, gather items, etc. Whatever is required. As for how much, that's for Anet to decide and implement. So you think there's something that Anet could've done or do that they didn't that makes sure that there are no afk'ers or bots? I mean, do you really think that bots will not adapt to anything a game company restricts? They do the minimum necessary, so they can ramp it up when more is required. It'll just take a bit of time to reprogram the botting program so it will do what's necessary, because they know that Anet cannot ask too much participation or else a lot of players will get upset at that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kharmin.7683 Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 Report and move on. 4 2 3 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobx.1758 Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Bunny.9834 said: Watch them closely, you can tell visually their toons are appearing/disappearing as if they were "loading" from a log in. Interesting, didn't notice that before, lets see if I'll start noticing those in the future. 38 minutes ago, Bunny.9834 said: Normal AFKers or leechers will eventually get kicked out for inactivity. Except that's not true, since they still can't just literally afk, it will give them no participation -and subsequentially rewards- so they need to be around anyways. Edited October 2, 2022 by Sobx.1758 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent.6137 Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 15 minutes ago, Gehenna.3625 said: So you think there's something that Anet could've done or do that they didn't that makes sure that there are no afk'ers or bots? I mean, do you really think that bots will not adapt to anything a game company restricts? They do the minimum necessary, so they can ramp it up when more is required. It'll just take a bit of time to reprogram the botting program so it will do what's necessary, because they know that Anet cannot ask too much participation or else a lot of players will get upset at that. Some players will always find ways to use bots. That doesn't mean it can't be minimized. As I said, 100% not required because of possibility of extenuating circumstances such as DCed, momentarily afk, etc. But if you want to reap the rewards of a meta/event, then a minmum amount of participation should be required at all phases. Think a certain event will take too long? Find an easier event. I highly doubt anyone will begrudge some minimum requirements except the botters and leechers. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epsilon Indi.2031 Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 28 minutes ago, Sobx.1758 said: How did you identify them as bots instead of playes being afkers/leechers? Or do you use those terms interchangeably? It really shouldn't matter. Going afk once or twice randomly at different times won't make a pattern. Doing it regularly over the course of a month even at random times (Especially during scheduled meta events) forms a pattern that can be recognized. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobx.1758 Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Sir Alymer.3406 said: It really shouldn't matter. Going afk once or twice randomly at different times won't make a pattern. Doing it regularly over the course of a month even at random times (Especially during scheduled meta events) forms a pattern that can be recognized. I don't understand, what shouldn't matter? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caliboom.3218 Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 2 hours ago, kharmin.7683 said: Report and move on. I mean, might as well not bother reporting them at all since they never get banned. Ever. 6 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniyyel.3428 Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 This is why I wont bother ressing anyone in meta events anymore. I never know if they are a bot or afk farmer or multi boxer. If someone ask I will. 1 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epsilon Indi.2031 Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 5 hours ago, Sobx.1758 said: I don't understand, what shouldn't matter? Identifying bots is really easy unless they're sophisticated. Which a majority of them won't be. It could also just be a blanket ban statement. Anyone who's afk in a meta event using auto attack to still get participation (Or pet AI) while not participating themselves should be an actionable offense. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoftFootpaws.9134 Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, Bunny.9834 said: They are both. Watch them closely, you can tell visually their toons are appearing/disappearing as if they were "loading" from a log in. Normal AFKers or leechers will eventually get kicked out for inactivity. These ones just stay on the waypoint. You don't get kicked if you have a PBAoE skill set to autocast. Very few players are actually using programs, many of them are just exploiting already existing game mechanics. Edited October 3, 2022 by Mariyuuna.6508 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum Moderator.3419 Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Hello Everyone, If you witness any of these acts while playing, please submit an in-game report or a ticket to our Customer Support team, so they can properly investigate the matter. Regards. 2 5 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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